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It’s show time! Barclays to host MTV awards

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The 2013 MTV Video Music Awards are coming to the Barclays Center on Aug. 25, the television station announced on Monday.

MTV started teasing its online fans by posting pictures on its Instagram page of the show’s iconic Moonman award traveling from the Staples Center in Los Angeles, where the awards were held last year, all the way to new arena at Flatbush and Atlantic avenues — with some shots on the Brooklyn Bridge and a Fort Greene mural honoring deceased borough emcee the Notorious B.I.G. in between.

Borough President Markowitz said Brooklyn is the obvious place for the Video Music Awards.

“From hip-hop to hipsters, Jay-Z to MGMT, Brooklyn musicians have a long history of dominating the spotlight on MTV,” said Markowitz. “Brooklyn is a cultural Mecca — the hippest, coolest place for young people across the country, and has played a crucial role in the careers of some of 2013’s biggest bands, like Fun and the Lumineers,”

Past Brooklyn winners of the Moonman statue include Beastie Boys, Bjork, and Matt and Kim.

The cable channel has not yet announced the nominees nor the host of this year’s show.

Comedian Kevin Hart had the honor last year.

Reach reporter Danielle Furfaro at dfurfaro@cnglocal.com or by calling (718) 260-2511. Follow her at twitter.com/DanielleFurfaro.

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Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
The main reason why they chose the Barclays Center is probably because of the fact that they know that they can go there for less due to the subsidies, not because they find it to be prestigious. Does anyone really think that MTV actually wants to be there if they had to pay the full price? My guess would be no. I will be looking at the Atlantic Yards Report and Atlantic Yards Watch to see how many violators will be on those streets once it's there, because I know that they will be the ones keeping tabs on that.
March 25, 2013, 4:35 pm
Jimmy from PH says:
That sounds like a whole lot of crazy conspiracy theory nonsense. Why wouldn't a state-of-the-art arena that has proven to be a great venue for concerts be attractive for a television awards show? The Barclay's Center is the most technologically advanced venue in New York City.

And what does that mean? How many violators will be on the streets?
March 25, 2013, 8:04 pm
bb from Dumbo says:
Tal, aka troll, please go away and be angry someplace else. I know everything wrong in the universe is either obamas fault or because somebody somewhere is being inconvenienced but either shut up and get out of the way, or progress will just roll over and flatten you.
March 25, 2013, 10:18 pm
Fonty from Greenfont says:
I like your new font.
March 26, 2013, 3:25 pm
Omar from Brooklyn Hts. says:
Not Obama's fault. Definitely Bush's fault.
March 26, 2013, 5:16 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Jimmy, please read the Atlantic Yards Report if you really want to know, and Norman Oder, who runs it, will probably answer all your questions there as well.
March 26, 2013, 5:57 pm
Jimmy from PH says:
Tal,

What?

The Atlantic Yards Report is going to tell me why MTV thinks the Barclay's Center is a great venue for filming their TV awards show? That doesn't make any sense. And I've read the Atlantic Yards Report. Lots of great information and perspectives on the project, but nothing to support your conspiracy theory.

Barclay's is, objectively, the most technologically advanced venue in New York City. It's basically made for events like the MTV awards.
March 26, 2013, 6:58 pm
JAY from NYC says:
Barclays is a good building, even though people were opposed to it being built, it is a well built final product. In addition, Brooklyn is a media spot in its own right, a gazzillion films are shot here, seems like something everyday.
Its close to airports (and mass transportation) so celebs and fans, etc, can get in and out easy, its close to Manhattan where a lot of media is HQ-d, so they can host an event in Brooklyn without the Manhattan hassle and still have NYC cred, and its a larger venue than everything except MSG in Manhattan, and its totally modern and able to deal with digital stuff as opposed to say Radio City where everything has been shoe-horned in over the years.
Its really easy to understand why MTV would do this and why more and more things are moving to Brooklyn, and anyone who thinks this is about something else is a dumba**
March 26, 2013, 7:54 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Being a state of the art arena doesn't change how it got there. This is what many revisionists try to do. They try to rewrite history to their liking especially those who were always in favor of what they got. When Ratner got this land, he got through the ESDC aka eminent domain abuse and corporate welfare. Then again, to some, they will just think that the end will justify the means just as long as they got what they wanted. As for MTV, it's very overrated these days, and they hardly play music videos like the used to, which was their original intent when first introduced in 1981. Nowadays, it's just a bunch of reality shows, though its European counterpart still does that. BTW, the traffic around that area both on the streets and in the subways were found to be terrible even before the idea of building there, so this will make it worse. In reality, all this is nothing more than just placing a brand, which will just end up as nothing more than a fad once it loses its flavor over the years.
March 26, 2013, 9:20 pm
ty from pps says:
Tal -- You are in rare form. Wow, buddy! Look at your three comments. They have NOTHING to do with each other. Maybe you think so, but in *reality* where the rest of us live, they don't.

(1) MTV chose Barclay's because it's cheap due to "subsidies" and they are not paying "full price."
(2) The Atlantic Yard Report has the secrets about MTV's business decisions.
(3) The new arena is great, but that doesn't matter and MTV is bad and the subways aren't enough (even if event after event, concert after concert has proven you wrong) and the arena is just a "fad"?

Hmm... I think you are a total f*cking nutbag.
March 26, 2013, 9:33 pm
ty from pps says:
Hey Tal --
Quick question... Do you still believe the Barclay's Arena will be closed down and demolished?

If so, what should replace it? Or is a vacant hole in the ground the best solution.

If no, are you going to cry?
March 26, 2013, 9:48 pm
Friend of Danny G from Dope Slope says:
Norman Odor will host the MTA Video Music Awards. Mark my words!
March 27, 2013, 2:09 am
topper from bkn says:
Its simple ty. Tal wants all the demolished buildings put back up and the Nets to go back to the Izod center. Then he wants us to pretend Barclay's never existed at all.
March 27, 2013, 9:58 am
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Actually, topper, I would have preferred the Nets playing in the Prudential Center over in Newark, where they should have been playing in as soon as it opened, rather than staying at the Izod Center in East Rutherford.
March 27, 2013, 3:32 pm
ty from pps says:
Hey Tal --
But they should just stay at the Barclay's Arena now, right? Seems to be working just fine, no?

They appear to have a great fan base (I know, you thought no one would be Nets fans), have a decent record so far this season (41-29), the VAST MAJORITY of folks are arriving on mass transit and disappearing after the games just as quickly on mass transit, there are no nightly riots....

And you would have preferred the Prudential Center?! Really? But it's sooooooo far from the highway! (Ya know, just as far as Barclay's is from the highway) And it doesn't have nearly as many transit options... I'm surprised anyone even goes to Devils games.
March 27, 2013, 3:44 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Ty, the Prudential isn't that far from the NJ Turpike, and you take the Essex Freeway (I-280) from there or even the Phillipsburg–Newark Expressway (I-78) to the McCarthy Highway (NJ 21), and it's right there. BTW, that arena is within a short distance from Newark-Penn Station, which is used by most lines of NJ Transit trains, PATH, and even the Newark City Subway. Overall, the Prudential Center aka The Rock is the best of both worlds here. Meanwhile the Barclays Center is good to get to by several subways lines and by the Atlantic Avenue Line of the LIRR, which can only be reached by the Jamaica Station only, but is about 20 blocks in from the BQE (I-278). In terms of transit, the Izod Center is a bad choice unless you don't mind taking buses from the PABT or from some places provided by NJ Transit. As for the Devils, the reason the are getting high attendance playing there is because they are actually doing good, which is a key factor for attendance. Truthfully, the Nets had declined in attendance because of their bad seasons and the idea of moving them out of the state. If they were moving into the Prudential Center at the same time the Devils were, that could have changed something, though playing better is still needed. I still think that most of those Brooklynites that are rooting for the Nets right now aren't true fans, but just part of a bandwagon that are only liking them just because they are new, but will drop them in one of the next seasons especially if they just fall out of the quarterfinals in seeing that they are just the same team in a different uniform. On a side note, at least I will still be going to the Prudential Center to see the Liberty playing this summer in that this will be there final seasons playing there as the renovations at MSG should be finished this year and they will be going back there after it's done.
March 27, 2013, 4:47 pm
ty from pps says:
Tal --
(a) You're talking out of your ass again. The Nets are having a bad season? They clinched the 4th spot in the playoffs -- they are FOURTH out of the 15 teams of the Eastern Conference.
(b) The Barclay's Center is served by more than "several" subway lines... it's served by TWELVE.
(c) The LIRR can "only be reached by the Jamaica station" -- SO WHAT!? That is the station serving ALL points east... it's the LONG ISLAND rail road. Where did you expect it to go? Florida?
(d) WAIT? The Izod Center is a bad choice because it doesn't have good transit options... but it's right next to the highway. I thought that was the most important thing, Tal. That's what you've always said.
(e) Where are you finding this data about the Nets "declining attendance"???? Reality? I don't think so.
(f) Hmm... Tal. I live in New York City. In Brooklyn, actually. There are 2.5 million people in Brooklyn. Which do you think is easier to get to for me? Newark NJ or Atlantic Avenue?
(g) It must make you REALLY angry that the NY Islanders are moving to Barclay's in 2015. Oh, and a development league soccer team. Oh, and it's becoming an extremely popular venue for concerts and other events... remember what this article is about? MTV is doing its award show here! AACK! Tal! What are you going to do?!

So, you agree. The Nets should just stay at the Barclay's Center now, right? Seems to be working just fine, no?

Have you heard of riots that no one else knows about?

Oh right... I'm being a "revisionist" -- right?
March 27, 2013, 6:26 pm
ty from pps says:
Brooklyn Nets... filled 95% of the seats this season.

Jay-Z... sold out.
Barbara Streisand... sold out.
Justin Bieber (your favorite)... sold out.
Alicia Keys, next week... sold out.

Coming this year....
Rhianna, The Killers, The National, Bruno Mars, Beyonce, Justin Bieber (again), Depeche Mode, Atoms for Peace, Pink, MTV Music Award, etc. etc. These are all happening at the Barclay's Center.

Why, Tal? What conspiracy theory do you have to explain why the biggest names in showbiz have chosen Barclay's?
March 27, 2013, 6:45 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Ty, I never said anything about events coming there, because I know that there will be those coming no matter what. My real statement about the arena is how it came to be. How would you feel if this was going to be built either near your home or actually on it? Would you be for it as you are now, or be rallying against as those who were forced out were? Another thing you seem to have forgotten that the arena was really a Trojan Horse for a major complex. Doesn't the fact that 22 acres were needed where the arena only take up about 10% feels strange to you? How about the fact that the rest of the planned footprint was demolished even though the rest may never even get built, which will make them parking lots in years or even decades to come? Of course, I am still waiting for a reason why eminent domain and taxpayer dollars were needed to fund this when it shouldn't be. Overall, the events you mentioned are irrelevant to what I am saying here. Even another article on this paper just mentioned businesses that were located near where the arena is now are moving because they can't afford to stay there anymore thanks to rents that have risen up in showing that it truly is a sign of gentrification. More importantly, studies have shown that places like these do NOT help the surrounding communities, but rather hurt them instead hence that recent move of many, and I highly doubt that hosting the VMA by MTV is going to help the area any better. I am so glad that we have places like the Atlantic Yards Report that tell the real story here, and Oder wasn't asked by anyone to launch that blog, he did that on his own.
March 27, 2013, 9:08 pm
ty from pps says:
Tal --
You can't say things like "More importantly, studies have shown that places like these do NOT help the surrounding communities, but rather hurt them" and not provide back up.

SHOW ME these studies. I'd like to learn. So far, "places like this" seem like a positive. This is very similar to MSG... was that harmful to that area?

Don't answer that. Just show me these studies. And not some random website... an actual scientific study or two or three that support your claim.
March 27, 2013, 9:41 pm
ty from pps says:
And if.... "My real statement about the arena is how it came to be."

Why do you babble on about everything else?! In what way would Brooklyn be served if the Barclay's Center failed?

Answer that. You still seem to want the arena to fail. Why? What good will come of that??
March 27, 2013, 9:51 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
I suggest you read Field of Schemes by Neil deMause, because he debunks that very claim about such sports facilities helping communities numerous times in both his book and blog with the same name.

http://www.fieldofschemes.com/
March 27, 2013, 10:14 pm
ty from pps says:
Tal -- Answer my direct question.

You still seem to want the arena to fail. Why? What good will come of that??
March 27, 2013, 11:16 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Ty, those that opposed Ratner building on the rail yards weren't against development on the rail yards altogether. Also, they were against the way it was being handed. The opposition felt that dividing them up among several developers would have worked better rather than just handing it over to just one developer such as Ratner. Seriously, to say the arena is a benefit is really a stretch. Neil deMause has proven countless times that not only are these places not economic engines, but they are found to net money losers as well. Don't forget that Ratner still has a large number of jobs and housing that he promised to give to those that believed him, which he still hasn't given. Overall, the Barclays Center isn't a magic bullet for the area it's in, and the same goes for MSG, Citifield, Yankee Stadium II, Nassau Coliseum, Prudential Center, Izod Center, Met Life Stadium, Red Bull Stadium, and some many others for their areas as well. Even places for the Minor League system or the NBDL doesn't help their communities either. The revenues don't even go to the businesses that are there, but really to the owner, and I doubt that any from the MTV VMA will do that. Overall, Brooklyn doesn't need a major sports franchise like the Nets to be known, especially when it managed to survive after the Dodgers left for LA. It's the quality that defines a place, not the quantity. If you didn't read that NY Times Magazine article on the Brooklyn Brand, I suggest you do read as well as the comments to that.

http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/17/brooklyn-the-brand/
March 28, 2013, 6:28 pm
jay from nyc says:
Actually Brooklyn is STILL mad about the Dodgers leaving, but an idiot loser bigot liar who does not live here in Brooklyn would not know that.
March 28, 2013, 7:10 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Although the Dodgers leaving was a big loss, it wasn't the end of the world. The reason they left was mainly because of business and the fact that Walter O'Malley couldn't get a stadium where he wanted it to be. BTW, he wasn't planning for it to be on the rail yards, it was actually to be north of them where Ratner's Atlantic Center Mall is today, though so many tend to get this wrong. He was offered where the Mets play today, but rejected on that. Even in those days, that area was still heavy to traffic as it is today. One big difference here is that no eminent domain abuse or corporate welfare was used to place Ebbets Field or even Washington Park, where they played before that unlike what is being used for the Barclays Center. Seriously, the Nets are NOT like the Dodgers by any means. One other thing, I am allowed to express my concerns on this, because my taxpayer dollars are going to this as well seeing that this is being done by the entire state of NY hence the Empire State Development Corporation.
March 28, 2013, 8:27 pm
jay from nyc says:
walter o'mally liar bigot loser among the worst people in the 20th century, see it at http://www.thecolumnists.com/isaacs/isaacs281.html
March 28, 2013, 8:36 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Keep in mind that Brooklyn isn't alone here on that nor is this something new. There have been plenty of cities throughout the years of professional sports that have either seen their teams move to a new place or just fold. However, they got over that and moved on since then. Some cities got new teams while others were just left without ever having one again, but they aren't going stark raving mad. Overall, as bad as moving the Dodgers to LA was, that was unfortunately the owners decision. Even in the time of Robert Moses, if putting a professional sports facility was a bad idea for the reason of traffic in that area, then I never could understand why the idea to build this in the same vicinity was needed when that's still an issue today and much worse.
March 29, 2013, 4:23 pm
Bark Slope from Park Slope says:
What a pathetic exchange of non-ideas. First of all, in 2013, who really cares about MTV? It hasn't mattered in at least 15 years.

Second, other than some marginally profitable stores, just who has been hurt by the creation of th Arena (future apartments, that's different, and an unknown).

Third, the rich are getting richer and the poor, poorer, especially under the current socialist President, his insane policies and non-policies, and the Federal Reserve that had had to react to such.
March 30, 2013, 9:26 am
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Bark Slope, remember, many believed that they had Ratner's word on jobs and housing, though some still believe those even after he double crossed them.
March 30, 2013, 5:50 pm
Bark Slope from Park Slope says:
Tal, obviously the housing is in the future. As for the jobs, I am not sure to what you refer. Does the arena not have employees? I have no idea what impact the arena has had beyond raising restaurant space rents.
It's probably too early to tell how many jobs will be created. It's also impossible to know if the arena has mitigated the general sad state of the economy.

In any case, I opposed and would continue to oppose any true subsidies the City and/or State offered to Ratner. He's built lots of office space, most of which appears to be occupied by non-for-profit/government offices. That seems like a double subsidy (unless such was part of the official plan all along).
March 30, 2013, 8:34 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Fortunately, we have someone like Norman Oder, who does the Atlantic Yards Report, to crunch the numbers on the jobs and housing. Much of the employment at the arena is really relocated jobs from whoever was working at Nets games already, and that does not help a community at all. Even the number of construction jobs alone was found to be false in that they would really just be 1,500 jobs over the course of 10 years, and that doesn't equal 15,000 jobs at all thanks to what Oder found out. Either way, the arena jobs aren't permanent and are only part time, so even if they did get the jobs, they would have to get another one for the majority of the year especially when the Nets aren't there all the time. For the record, I was never for the arena let alone the entire plan, and I too feel that no subsidies should be spent on anything that isn't public to begin with. On a side note, he never planned Metro Tech Center to have the government there, they just came to help bail him out after much of it couldn't even fill up.
March 30, 2013, 10:14 pm

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