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You can believe everything you read in The Brooklyn Paper — unless it’s in the comments section of our award-winning Web site.

Imposters have been commenting under the names of prominent members of South Williamsburg’s Hasidic community for months, spreading lies and attempting to ruin reputations in a proxy battle between rival camps within the Jewish sect, according to the victims of the attacks.

“I feel upset,” said Shimon Weiser, a Community Board 1 member who has been impersonated repeatedly in fake posts touting bogus political affiliations and a love for beer. “They are defaming me.”

Under a strict posting policy, The Brooklyn Paper deletes all “abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening or sexually oriented material” as soon as The Paper becomes aware of it — but that hasn’t stopped the imposters from posting comments from different Internet protocol addresses depicting Weiser as a buffoon.

“We live in a crazy world my friend, just crazy,” read a comment under Weiser’s name that the real Weiser said was fake. “I will be drinking my beer this evening and I will enjoy it, ’cause that’s how I roll. MMMM.’”

Other fake posts under Weiser’s name have attacked politicians including Borough President Markowitz, Mayor Bloomberg, and Assemblyman Vito Lopez (D–Bushwick) — dubbed “Vito Low-pest” by the faux correspondent. Many of the fraudulent comments mention weekly “beer hall” meetings.

“This is just childish,” said the real Weiser. “If they want to comment, comment themselves. Don’t use fictitious names.”

Though The Brooklyn Paper regularly deletes fake comments, some have remained on the Web site long enough to confuse readers.

“People called me and said, ‘This can’t really be you,’” said Rabbi David Niederman — head of the United Jewish Organization of Williamsburg, who has also been a victim of Interweb impersonators.

“Everybody with some brain understands and knows that it’s not David Niederman commenting — but in order to understand that, you have to know who David Niederman is,” he said. “Somebody who does not know David Niederman gets a distorted picture of what I am and what I stand for.”

Sources say the fake posts stem from the ongoing rivalry between two battling Satmar sects.

In the years leading up to the death of the Grand Rabbi Moshe Teitelbaum in 2006, a bitter feud over succession split the Satmar faith split into two rival factions lead by his sons Rabbi Zalmen Teitelbaum and Rabbi Aaron Teitelbaum.

Since then, the two groups have opposed each other on just about every issue from political endorsements — Zalmen’s followers supported council candidate Steve Levin while Aaron’s followers opted for Hasidic candidate Isaac Abraham in the Democratic primary election this September — to the Broadway Triangle, where Zalmen’s followers favor a controversial city’s rezoning plan that Aaron’s followers oppose.

Considering that both Weiser and Niederman are followers of Zalmen, tipsters say the imposters might be supporters of Aaron who are attempting to publicly shame their civically active rivals.

But sources that support Aaron deny that their sect is to blame. In fact, allege that the victims of the fake comments might actually be behind the postings themselves.

“People are sometimes playing double,” a tipster told The Paper. “They use their own names, then blame other people for it just to make an issue out of it.”

In this case of insider Jewish baseball, it’s unclear which side is the Sandy Koufax on the mound.

But one thing’s for sure, sports fans — if you see a comment by “Shimon Weiser” or “Rabbi David Niederman,” a curveball is definitely coming.

Updated 1:33 pm, March 21, 2014
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Reasonable discourse

david from flatbush says:
the brake is nothing more then a fightr over turf who controls a large and powerful religious organization that supports and gives back to there community. but trhe use of such bloggs to discredit or worse try to destroy people is dispicable
Oct. 23, 2009, 8:53 am
Scooter from the Heights says:
What? No comments from the real or fake Weisser yet?
Oct. 23, 2009, 9:48 am
Melinda from Williamsburg says:
I have know Shimon Wieser for years,and he is the type that yearns for publicity,I am not so sure that its not really himself posting these comments then claiming its an imposter,Ben this comment that was said is very true.“People are sometimes playing double,” a tipster told The Paper. “They use their own names, then blame other people for it just to make an issue out of it.”
Oct. 23, 2009, 12:21 pm
Dav from Greenpoint says:
Can’t you get a nicer picture this wiser guy is a perfect example how community board 1 looks like a operating!!! Reminder Halloween is upcoming…
Oct. 23, 2009, 2:04 pm
teresa from greenpoint says:
It makes us all look bad - like a bunch of name calling adolescents. Grow up, all!
Oct. 23, 2009, 2:08 pm
The Real Fake Weiser from Brooklyn says:
How about the Brooklyn Paper institute a policy that it delete all crime against spelling, grammar, syntax and logic "as soon as The Paper becomes aware of" them?

I guess that would require too much of the staff's time and energy.
Oct. 23, 2009, 2:17 pm
Teresa from greenpoint says:
I second that motion!
Oct. 23, 2009, 4:15 pm
Older But Not Weiser from So Bklyn says:
... and I third that motion!
Oct. 24, 2009, 12:27 am
Sometime Fake Sometime Real from Williamsburg says:
Well, I don't know any of the real or fake ones in person, but that picture is good/bad enough to put him in dim light.

At least put some better pose
Oct. 25, 2009, 12:35 am
Pam from Williamsburg says:
This is all made up by wieser to garner more publicity.Why bother us with such non sense?
Oct. 25, 2009, 12:53 am
Jessica from North Side says:
Shimon Wieser acts like a buffoon to cover up his cowardice. Everybody else gets hurt, but not him. Sort of like Peter Sellers as a Mafia Don
Oct. 25, 2009, 12:48 pm
Dave from Williamsburg says:
Shimon Wieser is a "SHAIGOTS" in yiddish a shaigots translates to a Buffoon. The picture speaks it all , thats how he acts at every CB meeting ,He screams,curses,spits,I really dont understand Rabbi Neiderman from the UJO in keeping such a person on the UJO payroll. thank you
Oct. 26, 2009, 7:34 am
Ben from SouthSide says:
i met Shimon Wieser today and he told me that everyone talks and talks about me,everyone is stupid,In the few short days since I have been in the news, I've received comments publicly and a few dozen privately. Many people have commended me for being blatant,thats my style and I will not change, so like BOb Grant says 'if you dont like what I am saying turn me off" Just dont read my rantings.
Oct. 26, 2009, 6:04 pm
Shimon Wiser from WILLIAMSBURG says:
I've been listening to alot of screamings,It's very interesting how, a bunch of putts's are making noise ,hey no putts and shmockes will brush me into the ground, I am coming out stronger then ever from all this. good by
Oct. 27, 2009, 7:33 pm
Ed from Williamsburg says:
Is shimon wiser a red neck? he is missing his front tooth
Oct. 28, 2009, 3:26 pm
Sara Delio from Brooklyn says:
I met someone that said he is from the Aron side, he was all hippy n jolly and sure of himself and very silly. I would believe that he would do something like it.
They joined the churches and fought Niederman and Lopez on Broadway Triangle, not for the good of their own. They dont go to Theaters, so why support it?? they dont use open parks for adult stroll so why support it????. They fight and yell without too much sense. If they are so productive why does the Aron side control a CBO (CJC or UJCARE that has no ofice) or an office that is open three times a week from 4 to 6 and is a for profit business charging money.
SD
Nov. 3, 2009, 2:48 am
Kate Zucker from South Williamsburg says:
Dave from Williamsburg,
you seem to know words, let us see a picture of you representing your hometown in community boards, lets see how composed you will be.

But remember only the truth, or else we will say the same lie you say, he spits, he screams, he.....
(when Shimon is really one of the patriotic citizens fighting for the truth of his community. )

We got you by one lie. Shimon Weiser is not on UJO payroll, you want to set up a meeting with their bookkeeper?

Huh?? You cant believe there still are some true volunteers and not all like you Dave??? Come on show your picture and your true self.
Embarrased???? Why, spitting when you represent your community?? Screaming??? Lying (what payroll???)
Truth comes out although you like to complain fact is theare are 135 people coming daily for help at the UJO and for what they represent. And how come you and your friends dont stand outside the closed doors of your Community based office on line.
Now quiet or the truth remember act your age with manners that represent true Jewish values.
Nov. 3, 2009, 3:02 am

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