Brooklyn's fight for more bike lanes

Ditmas Parkers: We want more bike lanes

for The Brooklyn Paper
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A group of Ditmas Park cyclists are clamoring for more bike routes on their side of Prospect Park — and they’re recruiting neighborhood businesses to help them increase the borough’s bike lane network.

Bicycle advocates say there are no bike lanes running through Ditmas Park with the exception of Ocean Parkway and Bedford Avenue and want the city to make good on its plans to put bicycle paths on Dorchester, Westminster and Stratford roads.

“We’re 30 years behind other countries on this,” said Rene Netter, a cycling enthusiast who founded a Friday-night bicycling tour through the neighborhood called Ditmas Rides. “The city should be putting in a bike grid to connect this area to Prospect Park and the ocean.”

Netter and cyclist Julie May spent last month getting more than fifteen Ditmas Park businesses to join the Bike Friendly Business Campaign — which May sees as the first step toward putting together a serious bike lane proposal for neighborhood community groups and the city’s Department of Transportation.

“Businesses really makes things move,” said May. “They can start petitioning the city for bike racks and eventually get something to the community board.”

Merchants who enroll in the program, which is sponsored by the bicyclist-advocacy group Transportation Alternatives, pledge to educate their delivery men on the city’s bicycling rules. In turn, their business is added to a list of bike-friendly stores and eateries on Some of the businesses on the list offer deals for customers who show up on bicycle.

Business owners who have enrolled in the program — the majority of which are on Cortelyou Road — said that Ditmas Park would only benefit from more neighborhood bike lanes.

“Bikes are good and anything that encourages people to come to this neighborhood will help us,” said Sam Levin, the manager of Cortelyou Hardware. The store is now on Transportation Alternative’s bicycle-friendly list and is offering a 10-percent discount to any customer who shows up on a bike. “Bike lanes also will make the street safer for bike riders.”

The Department of Transportation identified Dorchester, Westminster and Stratford roads as potential routes on the city’s latest bicycle map, but admitted that there are no current plans to bring additional lanes to Ditmas Park.

Some community leaders say Ditmas Park isn’t ready for more bike lanes.

“For a bike lane to work it has to be on the appropriate street and bicyclists have to abide by the proper direction laws,” said Morris Sacks, the chairman of Community Board 14’s transportation committee. “You gotta educate the bike riders. It’s the education that’s missing.”

Reach reporter Eli Rosenberg at or by calling (718) 260-2531. And follow his Tweets at @from_where_isit.
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Reasonable discourse

Pat I. from 70's Brooklyn says:
Why don't we just turn all of NY into one giant bike lane?

Frankly this whole bike lane thing is getting out of control. May this cankle queen would like EMTs, The FDNY and ambulances to ride bikes as well.

As far as being 30 years behind other countries. ..I have to add that just because another country has been doing something for 30 years that doesn't mean it's good or works for us. I mean - we could always emulate the Arab model for women's rights...they've been doing it for a very long time and I'm sure THEY thing the rest of the world is behind them.
June 11, 2012, 6:23 am
Michael from Bay Ridge says:
I would like more city officials to use bikes. Cars are expensive, dangerous and they pollute. Why shouldn't we be open to new ideas. I am a native brooklynite who doesn't think that all the changes have been positive, but is embarassed by how close-minded many others from bk Can be. Try something new - it won't kill you.
June 11, 2012, 6:36 am
Michael from Bay Ridge says:
And about being behind other countries - I've lived In Copenhagen and Amsterdam - traffic flows better, transport is cheaper and the air is cleaner because of bikes. It's not just randomly copying anyone, the idea is if it's done better somewhere else we should see why.
Women's Rights In the middle East are worse than ours, but transport In northern Europe is arguably much better than ours.
June 11, 2012, 6:40 am
Dan from Ditmas Park says:
Thanks Pat I. Your contribution is so helpful. Yes, bicycle infrastructure is a secret plot to get bike ambulances. Uggh.
June 11, 2012, 7:08 am
Resident from PPW says:
Don't worry Ditmas Park residents. The community board is about to roll over on you. Nanny Bloomberg and his lackey Commissioner Sadik-Kahn will payoff the CB with some extra funds. Then the powers that be will make an imperial decision and implement it so fast that everyone will wonder how come NYC doesn't work this quick on any other decision.

The bike lane on PPW was created within days. However, the half a dozen or so permanent barriers seem to be dragging on for months.
June 11, 2012, 7:24 am
Or from Yellow Hook says:
Michael has lived in Amsterdam and I bet he observed the residents staying in their lanes, stopping for red lights, keeping a moderate pace, not racing, having lights after dark, and not covering both ears with headphones while riding.

When that happens here, call me.

The bike lanes are rewards to badly behaved bikers, assisting Mayor for Life Mike in his quest for a congestion tax, when he is creating congestion.
June 11, 2012, 7:42 am
pz from Downtown Brooklyn says:

Michael from Bay Ridge
City Official here.
I take the subway to my downtown office. Twice a week I have to go to the Bronx. Taking a City car (Prius) it's about a 20 minute drive without traffic. Subway is an hour and a half. No practical bike lanes. My job requires a jacket and tie. How do you propose this city official should use a bike more?
June 11, 2012, 8:06 am
Or from Yellow Hook says:

Michael would have you ride a unicorn to the Bronx. Don't rumple your shirt and tie.

Michael probably has a job where appearance and hygiene are not an issue.
June 11, 2012, 8:44 am
D from Queens says:
Pat I,

Sometimes when I think about Einstein and his theories about time and space being somewhat connected, I think that maybe parts of 1970's Brooklyn are connected to 1980's Staten Island or 1990's New Jersey. I would suggest that those of us who have been here our whole lives and are now living in 2012 Brooklyn have actually moved to a different city, whether we want to admit it or not.
June 11, 2012, 8:48 am
D from Queens says:

On Bronx days, I'd drive. On Manhattan days, if you're a within a 5 minute walk from the R train, I'd just take it and get some reading done. If you're a little far from the R, I'd bike to it, or if the weather is nice, I'd bike to the N at 59th so that you can catch the express and not have to deal with the R.
June 11, 2012, 9:08 am
pz from Downtown Brooklyn says:
I don't go into Manhattan regularly but when I do I take the subway. So I have to but a monthly metrocard anyway (jacket & tie, rain or shine, snow or ice, 15 degrees or 95 degrees). Where do I get the money for the bicycle? City doesn't have bikes. This is hundreds of dollars to start with no? I also may be carrying 20 plus lbs of full construction drawings plus a laptop. Cycling just does not make sense for my job. What City jobs do you think it makes sense for? Police, Fire, EMS, Sanitation, DOT, DEP, Finance, Budget, Controller, Telecommunications, Correction, Department of Health, Buildings, Education,Construction? I think a bicycle might be nice if you are just going to your office but if really is not practical for most City jobs. The current mayor is pro bike but he is also pro business. He would put us on bikes if he could, but it just is not pratical.
June 11, 2012, 9:32 am
ty from pps says:
Resident from PPW --

Two things... it's not being "rolled over" when the residents WANT the change in the infrastructure. This was the case with PPW too.... it was YEARS in the making.

And, sorry, yes. Paint is easier to apply to the streets than granite curbs. Are you really this thick? By the way, PPW is looking pretty damn good these days with the multi-purpose roadway, pretty pedestrian islands, new trees coming soon... very nice indeed. I'm glad whiny dummies like you didn't get your way.

How many more years are you going to complain about the changes to PPW? In 6 to 10 years are you still going to be calling for the tearing up of the ghastly [insert whatever you're complaining about]???
June 11, 2012, 9:52 am
ty from pps says:
PZ --

"I would like more city officials to use bikes." I think Michael meant for their commute. There are LOTS of city officials that have standard jobs. And there are plenty of people in suits that ride their bikes to work -- lawyers and bankers, oh my!

Who suggested you should take your bike during the day?

Do you sweat less standing in a subway tunnel that is 98 degrees and humid because of the train A/C? What magic you must possess.

By the way -- "What City jobs do you think it makes sense for? Police...?"

YES. There should ABSOLUTELY be more police on bicycles. Absolutely. YES. Emphatically yes.
June 11, 2012, 10:18 am
S from PPW says:
I used to live in Ditmas Park and I don't go back very often because of the lack of cycling infrastructure. If the Community Board and businesses would support bike lanes and bike parking and I'd be far more likely to ride over from Prospect Park and grab a bite to eat at the Farm on Adderly or Purple Yam.

Bike lanes are good for business and I'm glad that these dedicated volunteers are working so hard to make things happen!
June 11, 2012, 10:31 am
Just sayin' from Brooklyn says:
Have fun with Morris Sacks and his community board's double standards! Hundreds killed and thousands injured by motorists, but it's cyclists who need education.

"For a car lane to work it has to be on the appropriate street and motorists have to abide by the proper direction laws,” said Morris Sacks, the chairman of Community Board 14’s transportation committee. “You gotta educate the drivers It’s the education that’s missing.”
June 11, 2012, 10:38 am
Crusty from Ditmas Park says:
News flash to those of you who don't want the bike lanes. Rugby and Westminster are the intuitive bike routes south from Prospect Park and bikes will continue to use them. No bike lanes do not mean no bikes, they just mean safer streets.

Yellow Hook- I'm not sure where you get your information, but you certainly don't watch traffic closely. I commute from Ditmas Park to Long Island City daily on a bicycle. The proportion of idiotic, dangerous bike riders is about the same as the proportion of idiotic, dangerous drivers of cars. Your snarky opinions would be easier to take if you were at least consistant.
June 11, 2012, 11 am
D from Queens says:

Thanks for writing back. I find I have the same situation with buying the monthly metrocard. I found that a few hundred dollars for a bike plus a lock plus lights pays for itself over the long-term from money saved on gas or taxis. A lot of times people go overboard with thinking biking is a panacea and is always the best option for every trip, but it's really just another tool to help you get where you have to when it makes sense. We're not gonna take a taxi to work every day, but you might have to run an errand during the day where a taxi makes sense. It's the same thing with bikes. I find that it's nice for going to the post office at lunch or buying a lot of groceries. If I buy a little, I just carry it by hand, but when you buy a lot, you can carry it on the back if you have a milk crate. It beats one of those folding carrying carts, in my opinion. Anyway, best of luck however you get around.
June 11, 2012, 11:30 am
Howard from Kensington says:
Yes, please, to bike lanes in Ditmas Park and Kensington. Having the lanes does not restrict anyone from driving, if they want to, but the lanes do make biking safer for people on local errands, for kids getting around the neighborhood, for commuters on their way to the subway trains that will take them further than they care to ride their bikes. Bikes are cheap -- used bikes in Brooklyn can cost as little as $25, and they don't need gas. Yes, bike riders should obey the laws -- and drivers should be schooled in staying out of crosswalks, which pedestrians as well as bikes use on the green light. Bike riders are most likely to shop locally, so the bike-friendly business idea makes a lot of sense, too.
June 11, 2012, 11:45 am
Pat I. from 70's Brooklyn says:
...and on the 8th day, the Lord created car doors.
June 11, 2012, 11:49 am
Or from Yellow Hook says:
Crusty, here is your chance to change the world!

Make a vow to chastise your fellow riders who blow through red lights, ride on the sidewalk and ride after dark without lights.

Make a vow to do the same.

I make that vow here and now to do that in my car.

Police yourselves, and change the culture of bikes, and you may be surprised at the support bike lanes get.
June 11, 2012, 11:53 am
Question from Brooklyn says:
Pat, does the I stand for imbecile, or idiot?
June 11, 2012, 11:56 am
Chris from Bushwick says:
Or: I didn't know it was my responsibility to police cyclists as a cyclist who follows the rules of the road. I thought that was the responsibility of the police, who already do it in large numbers (the NYPD ticketed three times as many cyclists as truckers in 2011).

Do you take it upon yourself to get out of your car and chastise every driver you see run a red light or speed? I highly doubt that could be done without consequences that could threaten your life. Some people are just jerks. Self-policing, whether of cyclists or drivers, won't change that.

I don't go around saying we shouldn't pave a street or repair a road bridge until drivers follow the rules. And I won't take it upon you as a driver to make sure that they do. Why the double-standard?
June 11, 2012, 12:14 pm
Or from Yellow Hook says:

The challenge was offered to Crusty, not you.

Not everything is about you.
June 11, 2012, 12:32 pm
D from Newkirk says:
Way to go, Julie and Rene! We need safer streets around here.
June 11, 2012, 1:02 pm
ty from pps says:
Or -- How is it effective self-monitoring if only Crusty does it?

And, please tell me how you plan on reprimanding drivers who speed, run red lights and drive recklessly? I will do the same when I drive.
June 11, 2012, 1:07 pm
Or from Yellow Hook says:
Ty, work on your reading comprehension.
June 11, 2012, 1:19 pm
ty from pps says:
Sorry, Or, then could you please clarify? I guess you are too smart for me. Please help.
June 11, 2012, 1:31 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
If anyone actually read the last paragraph, the community board members didn't say that they were against adding more bike lanes, they were against the way cyclists tend to act. That is an inconvenient truth no matter how much some try to deny it. In reality, bike lanes only seem to work in theory, but not in practice. There have been numerous reports of cyclists using them as their get out of traffic laws free card by constantly flouting them. BTW, some of the outcries against such cyclists actually goes all the way back to the Koch administraition during the the 70's, so this is not something new here, plus he did renege on numerous bike lanes after hearing such concerns unlike Bloomberg, who constantly ignores whoever opposes him.
June 11, 2012, 3:26 pm
ty from pps says:


Everything you say about bike lanes is just baseless crap. Seriously.
June 11, 2012, 3:32 pm
ty from pps says:
No, Tal. Before your reply.... No. Really. A bunch of baseless crap.

Again, to preempt your predictably dumb reply... NO.

(Yes, I'm a zealot that is a member of Hamas, etc. etc. Tal, look at porn while your mom is out. It's a much better use of your time.)
June 11, 2012, 3:35 pm
mike from GP says:
Go Rene and Julie!
June 11, 2012, 3:50 pm
Scott from Park Slope says:
pz, holy cow, you can make it from Bay Ridge to the Bronx in 20 minutes? Do city officials have access to a secret underground highway where they can drive 100mph? I often take my kids up to the Bronx Zoo on my days off, and we go when traffic is lightest. We've never made it in under an hour.

But you're right, if you have to go to the Bronx from Bay Ridge a car does make the most sense. For the other days you described, you can do pretty well with a suit and tie on a bike.

I used to bike to work in northern Manhattan, and I had to wear a suit and tie at work, plus I was carrying a payload of laptop and papers similar to yours. I had an insert in my backpack that kept the suit pressed; they sell them in travel stores for road warriors. I listened to books on tape or language tapes on my iPod, so it was even productive time. It took me 5 minutes less than the subway did, and I arrived no sweatier than sitting through the sauna bath that is the subway in the summer. I lost 25lbs doing it, so it saved me time in the gym, too.

I had a Dahon folding bike, so when I arrived I'd hop off, fold it up in 30 seconds, pop it into a carrying bag that I had had in my backpack, and take it up in the elevator to my office where it rested comfortably next to my desk. I'd throw on my suit in the bathroom, and hey presto ready for work. It saved me hundreds of dollars in subway passes, hundreds of dollars in gym fees, and lots and lots of time.

You'd be surprised how well biking for work or pleasure works in NYC.
June 11, 2012, 4:39 pm
Or from Yellow Hook says:
Nothing wrong with your intellect Ty, otherwise you would not be able to obfuscate as well as you do.
June 11, 2012, 4:44 pm
Scott from Park Slope says:
I'd second what Michael said about Amsterdam. It's a remarkably well-designed system. They've successfully integrated even more modes of traffic than we're talking about in NYC, since they have an extensive canal system with water taxis and the like. They have even less space and more building restrictions (because of historic districts and marshy ground, etc) than we do, so if they can make it all work with their greater constraints there's no reason we couldn't do the same here. The truth is, if we had a better transportation balance in NYC it would be EASIER to get around, for everyone, no matter what mode of travel you chose--even drivers. If you could hop on a bike and accomplish your travel goal safely, in less time, with less hassle, with less expense, then why wouldn't you?
June 11, 2012, 4:45 pm
Scott from Park Slope says:
Tal--no, no, you're right. All people who ride bikes, including small children and the elderly, are rabid members of Hamas who hate Israel and are anti-Semites. They're all also trying to tempt good, Orthodox and Hasidic men to sin by flaunting bare skin. Does that about sum up your recently professed reasons for hating bicycles? Oh, right, almost forgot the other, critical ingredient in your potent cocktail of bicycle hatred--Medicaid no longer covers your anti-psychotic meds, and the therapist who leads your group therapy sessions rides a bike and is mean to you.

Seriously, man, your anti-bike hysteria is the weirdest obsession.
June 11, 2012, 4:52 pm
SwampYankee from ruined Brooklyn says:
ErrrrrTy You said:
""I would like more city officials to use bikes." I think Michael meant for their commute." Why do you think Michael meant for their commute? City officials dress like everybody else (cops & firemen are no officials). How could you possibly tell if a commuter was a city official or not? What do you base this assumption on? Do more city officials use cars than folks that work in other professions. Do you have any facts to support that assertion? Since most City Officials are required to reside in the city and most city agencies do not supply parking (but do provide transit benefits) I would think that more of them would use public transportation than say folks from Long Island or New Jersey. Please point out your facts becuasse your assumption makes no sense
June 11, 2012, 5:26 pm
ty from pps says:
OMG Swampy... Michael and my exchange was WITH a city official. Go back into your "Brooklyn should never change" hole and think about how everyone is destroying the city.

And I believe it is Michael's job to tell me if my assumption is correct. The ONLY assumption I made was "I think Michael meant for their commute."

Got it?

Now shut up and stop being a dink.
June 11, 2012, 5:33 pm
oh come on from Flatbush says:
“The city should be putting in a bike grid to connect this area to Prospect Park and the ocean."

The city already did. They're called STREETS. You can ride your bike on them. Really. I've been doing it for decades. You don't need to wait for someone to paint stick figure bicyclists on them.
June 11, 2012, 5:33 pm
Or from Yellow Hook says:
oh come on

four stars are yours for pointing out the obvious to the oblivious.
June 11, 2012, 5:36 pm
SwampYankee from ruined Brooklyn says:
I AM A CITY OFFICIAL. So I feel I am qualified to comment. Are you a CITY OFFICIAL? Didn't think so. Like someone else said above, you really need help with your reading comprehension because you make some wild ass assumptions that prove to be false time and time again. Stick to what you know, touching children
June 11, 2012, 5:49 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Scott, I have stated in the past that I am NOT anti-bicycle, I am just against the attitude that they use. Also, I never considered those who ride bicycles to be like Hamas, I only said in analogy that you are trying to claim that if a group kills more, they must be more dangerous, which is exactly how the anti-Israel crowd does it to justify Hamas in their claim of not being a terrorist organization, but freedom fighters. Anyway, what is wrong with asking for cyclists to follow the rules? Is it really that hard or do you guys just make it sound hard? Unfortunately, NYC is not Amsterdam, and it will never be like it ever. At least there, I'm not hearing about cyclists flouting constant traffic laws, so I can never understand why they can't follow them here. As for ty, you really need to take a chill pill instead of drinking all that Haterade.
June 11, 2012, 5:53 pm
whatever from greenpoint says:
Wow SwampYankee, what city official can post to this stupid website all day long every day? I want that job, and the 20-50 other "jobs" and persons you claim to be in other posts.

Seriously get some help for your multiple personality disorder and things were better in the past disorder you have. You just might be a happier person. Then maybe you'll log off the countless comment sections throughout the web you're definitely are on every hour to complain about something and actually go outside and enjoy the city your always crying has been permanently damaged by transplants. Maybe, just maybe you'll find nothing has really changed in Brooklyn, only you.
June 11, 2012, 6:31 pm
whatever from greenpoint says:

I'm sorry Tal, but your logic is faulty. This city consists mainly of selfish people who think they are the most important person here. That goes for pedestrian sheep that cross the road whenever the hell they want that I have to threaten to run over while beeping my horn through a green-light intersection where I have the right-away. To selfish car drivers who do whatever they want as well. Yeah drivers always follow the rules....right. Double-parking, driving on any part of the road they choose (including bike lanes), deciding the first 5secs of a red light is actually "optional" to stop.Taking up both lanes just in case they want to change lanes and so you can't get around them. I can go on and on.

So why are you singling out bike riders as being any different then any other NYC person? You just hate the fact they exist, just admit it. You see them going faster down the road you're driving on or in a cab on and you're upset they are exercising and beating you to your destination. How dare they! So you single out the selfish bike idiots, when they are just the same proportion of idiots as the car idiots, subway idiots and pedestrian idiots. You make no sense.
June 11, 2012, 6:42 pm
SwampYankee from ruined Brooklyn says:
Looks like 3 posts after 6:30 tonight. You assume I work the same time every day? Assume I get no breaks? Assume I get no lunch? Lets go through any other claims I made that would indicate I am anything else than a city official. Chapter and verse please or or you just talking out your ass? All kinds of people work for the city. Doctors, lawyers, engineers, architects , computer professionals, accounts, actuaries, nurses, investigators, court officials, judges, pilots, health care workers, social workers, construction workers, teachers, photographers, television professions, radio announcers, web developers and on and on and on. Please, point out where I said I was anything other than a city official. you talk the talk, now walk the walk
June 11, 2012, 6:50 pm
ty from pps says:
Tal -- I am a freedom fighter!
June 11, 2012, 7 pm
Shirk from Flatbush says:
Good for these people. Ditmas Park definitely needs more bike lanes!!!!
June 11, 2012, 7:45 pm
Old time brooklyn from Slope says:
I rode my bike from foster and e 19 st from when i was 9 - to pp = never a prob - keep your wits about you and you will be fine - as you dont need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows you dont need a bike lane to ride a bike = ps = when guys would ride their bikes in suits they were told not to by senior mgnt as the smelled like horses whn they got to work

and it is flatbush !!!
mazel tov
June 11, 2012, 8:27 pm
mike from GP says:
Despite the misinformation from folks above who rely solely on anecdotal evidence, bike lanes are proven to save lives and to reduce injuries of all street users.

Just another reason why Ditmas Park needs bike lanes!
June 11, 2012, 8:36 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
To answer Mr. Idon'tuseaconsistantnamewhenIcommenteventhoughIcouldbethatverysameperson, when did I ever say I was anti-bike? I never said that, and I only call out those that believe that the rules don't apply to them, while I respect those that do. Judging by your statement, you tend to be anti-car, but you don't seem to like when you are judged as something you don't like, so never do this to others. BTW, there is no need for new rules for bicycles, because they already exist, they just need to be enforced more. Either way, how does the city find money for so many bike lanes when there are public schools and hospitals that can't stay open due to lack of funds? Last time I checked, much of the NYC metro area supported their public school budgets, not opposed them yet they are getting snubbed and in danger of closing despite that.
June 11, 2012, 8:40 pm
Mike says:
Please stop arguing with Tal. He's just a computer program sent here to start fights.
June 11, 2012, 8:48 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
I wonder how much from either Mark Gorton or Paul Steely White was mike from GP paid to say that, because I sounds like someone reading a script here.
June 11, 2012, 8:52 pm
Brimstead from Bay Ridge says:
I, for one, would like to ask how come "city officials" are allowed to commute to work via the Gowanus HOV lane while being the sole occupant of the vehicle? There does seem to be some secret credential that is flashed at the tollbooth that allows smooth sailing through the HUGH CAREY TUNNEL (???), which would permit a 20 minute Bay Ridge to Bronx trip. I'm pro-car, pro-mass transit, and pro-bike lane. Try taking your bike on 3rd or 4th Avenues through Sunset Park/Gowanus during morning rush. Few, if any drivers obey the 30 MPH limit.
June 11, 2012, 9:12 pm
scott from park slope says:
Brimstead, OK with HOV lanes and a special pass that gets you to lower Manhattan, but there's no special lane on the FDR or West Side Highway, nor is there one on the BQE. That's where we start out on the trip to the zoo and it still takes an hour. 20 minutes? That's flyin' low.
June 12, 2012, 6:09 am
pz from Downtown Brooklyn says:
First off nobody commutes from home. Unless you work requires you to be on call 24x7 you can't take cars home. You pick it up from the pool at the office. I am in downtown Brooklyn and get on the BQE, heading north, near the Brooklyn Bridge. Traffic is usually thin headed north in the morning. BQE, to the LIE, to the Van Wyck, to the Whitestone is about 20 minutes with no traffic. Maybe 30 with some traffic. We are required to follow the same high-occupancy rules as everybody else. You get a ticket, it's on you. Perhaps the folks you see are in a Prius with a "clean-pass" sticker that allows them to use express lanes. Not sure as I rarely head south. IF so, its the same rules that apply to you. What SwampYankee says above about city employees and officials is generally true. Most commute by public transportation. The exception is cops and firemen. They almost always drive and park anywhere and everywhere they like. In my experience cops abuse the system because cops don't ticket cops. Recently there has been talk about issuing residential parking permits to people that live near the new Barclay center. Cops are salivating over that possibility because it means free, unlimited reserved parking for them, Bloomburg took their permits away so their union just printed up new permits. They are meaningless, but cops don't ticket cops. Best way to fix that is to enforce residency for all cops and firemen
June 12, 2012, 7:15 am
Leigh Scott from Foster Ave says:
More bike lanes please!
June 12, 2012, 7:28 am
AnnMarie from Prospect Park South says:
Thanks for your hard work, Julie & Rene! More bike lanes in DP would be great. I recently moved here and had a baby, and though I ride regularly alone, I would love to get on my bike with him in a child seat. However, getting around the neighborhood on streets without bike lanes makes me nervous. Designated bike lanes make cars more aware of cyclists and give cyclists a dedicated space so they can stay out of the way or cars. Of course, no system is perfect, but more bike lanes on the south side of the park would be great and would help make our streets safer for everyone.
June 12, 2012, 9:31 am
taty from Park Slope says:
I couldn't agree with Tal more. In addition, people have different situations/reasons why they drive a car and no one has the right to judge them for it. If people are so anti-car, then go live in a remote area where there are close to no cars. You are in the wrong city. We were doing fine 10-15 years back.
June 12, 2012, 7:28 pm
ty from pps says:
Taty -- with all due respect :-) you're an idiot. New York City's population has increased by 1,000,000 people in the last 20 years.

Nothing should change, right?
June 12, 2012, 8:07 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope says:

Nobody is anti car.

But you should know that Brooklyn is a great place to not have one. We have a great mass transit system, one can walk to many important things like groceries, and schools and work.

If you want to use your car every day then you should go live in a remote area where you need one to do anything,
June 12, 2012, 8:20 pm
BKDUDE says:
There is a very big bike lane a few blocks up.

its called ocean parkway. She must be new to the area.
June 13, 2012, 2:51 am
BKDUDE says:
“We’re 30 years behind other countries on this,”

She sounds like an irritating ——! Again go to ocean parkway. its only 30 avenues blocks of bikelane.

Im supprised she dont have training wheels on that geeky bike
June 13, 2012, 2:54 am
Other Michael from Park Slope says:
Ocean Parkway might have a bike lane, but it it not a safe place to ride a bike. Many of the cars making right turns from the main road do not yield and the intersections are often blocked.
June 13, 2012, 5:50 am
mike from GP says:
There are sidewalks a few blocks away. Why do we need one on this street?

There are parking spots a few blocks away. Why do we need them on this street?

etc, etc.

Bike lanes are only as useful as where they go and what they connect to. So to argue that there's one on a nearby street doesn't obviate the need for one here.
June 13, 2012, 7:12 am
Shirl from Flatbush says:
There is a very big highway a few blocks up and another one a few blocks after that and still more everywhere you go. There are streets for cars everywhere you turn.

BKDUDE must be new to the area.
June 13, 2012, 9:45 am
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
"Nobody is anti car."

Nobody is being anti-bicycle either yet many of you keep making that claim whenever we ask you guys just to follow simple traffic laws. Why are you all up in arms on that? Are you cyclists supposed to represent the resistance in which following the rules makes you part of the very establishment you are all trying to fight? No wonder there has been so much opposition to bike lanes. I guess the reason you feel that these outweigh the need to keep public schools open, which are in Brooklyn alone, is probably because a lot of you either did terribly in them or became high school drop outs, which is why you don't care about them. Currently the city has a number of bike, which many go unused most of the year, so they are seen as a waste of space and money.
June 13, 2012, 4:13 pm
Mike says:
Parks are unused most of the year. Why shouldn't they be bulldozed, Tal?
June 13, 2012, 9:05 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope says:

Public schools are closing. Really??
June 13, 2012, 9:22 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Here is the article that I was talking about in mentioning school closings.
June 13, 2012, 10:15 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope says:

Let me teach you something.

Schools in NYC are not closing because of lack of funds. They are closing because they are judge as "failing". New school open up in the same facility with a new name, (mostly) different teachers and new administrators.

Bike lanes have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO the fact that the city's educational policy favors small schools that are top heavy with administrators.

BTW, did you even look at a map to see where Ditmas Park is?

June 14, 2012, 5:15 am
ty from pps says:

Tal -- I was going to take the effort to respond to your idiotic claims, but I've decided against it. Instead I'll just say, You are a f&*king stupid person. Yes. You are. I hope you don't think you'll ever move out of your parents' house. That would be a lot of false hope, buddy.

No go back to Hamasing youself.
June 14, 2012, 9:25 am
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Other Michael, those schools are only considered failures by Bloomberg and his cronies. Either way, it's not a reason to stop funding them even with bad grade especially when charter schools with similar performances are never forced to close despite that. BTW, there were more who stood for the possible closing schools than all those for bike lanes. Unlike bike lanes, public schools ACTUALLY serve the community, so they are worth the taxpayer dollars. As for ty, perhaps you need to have your mouth washed with soap to make sure that such words like that never come out again, plus you really need to take anger management classes seeing how you tend to act here.
June 14, 2012, 4:55 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope says:

It is amazing that you keep talking about things you do not understand. Schools are being closed because they are considered bad, not to save money. They are being replaced by more expensive schools.

Go away Tal. Please you are not helping.
June 14, 2012, 8:34 pm
Do any of these bike riders obey the law and stop at light and stop signs? As I livery driver I have a dozen near misses a day.
June 18, 2012, 6:28 pm
I saw a man today who's arm was shattered in 3 places by a careless bike rider. It's time we register the bikes and require liability insurance. Why does the city give in to these bike riders?
June 18, 2012, 8:49 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope says:

I do but most don't.

but do you when you are walking?
June 20, 2012, 2:19 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
ty I won't allow that insult to stand. I demand satisfaction so you will immediately retract calling me crazy or you will find a bailiff issuing you a summons by th end of the day today. I am sitting in front of my computer awaiting your reply. I am not going to take anymore of this vile abuse at the hands of a smug cyclist.

Back to the issue. The fact that NYC increased by 1 million people this decade argues for more car lanes, not bike lanes since we all know that more people drive. Do you think all these new million people just ride their bikes to work? This is like saying that since Palestine once was less Jewish it should be completely open to Palestinian descendents. Nothing less than Hamasing, which is basically the view espoused by streetsblogger.
June 23, 2012, 10:07 pm

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