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Car Strikes Woman on Fourth Avenue Near 86th Street

Another pedestrian hit in Bay Ridge

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A car struck a woman as she crossed Fourth Avenue near the corner of 86th Street on April 1 — the latest in a series of collisions in accident-plagued Bay Ridge, and on a thoroughfare the city has targeted for a controversial overhaul.

Police said the 30-year-old white woman was crossing mid-block at around 6:18 am when a blue Honda sedan hit her, breaking one of her arms and causing severe head trauma. The FDNY said they took the female to Lutheran Hospital in a state of cardiac arrest.

An NYPD spokeswoman said that the driver was uninjured and remained at the scene. An investigation is ongoing, but there is no evidence of a crime.

“It looks like it was just an accident,” the spokeswoman said

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has declared Fourth Avenue the third-most-dangerous corridor in Brooklyn, and Borough President Markowitz and the Department of Transportation have rolled out a plan to turn the thoroughfare into a pedestrian-friendly “Brooklyn Boulevard.” But the plans for the Bay Ridge stretch of the avenue — which involve reducing 13 blocks to a single lane in each direction and raising a concrete island on the southern side of the 86th Street intersection — have run into opposition, despite being derived from resident suggestions.

“It’s going to back up everything,” objected Kathy Byrne at the March 25 unveiling of the proposal.

Community Board 10 approved a safety makeover for 86th Street last summer that banned left turns off of Third and Fifth avenues and installed countdown clocks at pedestrian crossings along the corridor, but only after months of battling an earlier plan that included removing two traffic lanes and installing a median. The Fourth Avenue plan will go before the neighborhood board sometime in the next two months.

Reach reporter Will Bredderman at wbredderman@cnglocal.com or by calling (718) 260-4507. Follow him at twitter.com/WillBredderman.

Updated 9:06 am, April 2, 2013: Photo caption updated to remove kicker, which was unwarranted. We apologize for the error.
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Reasonable discourse

Rob from Greenpoint says:
“It looks like it was just an accident” - what NYPD says about 99.9999% of crashes, most of which are not "accidents".

Ray Kelly, do your job.
April 2, 2013, 6:49 am
manposeur from brokeland says:
Ok Tal better shut up. Time to slow down the drivers who think 4th ave is NASCAR raceway. Bike lanes and pedestrian islands, and speed bumps and they should start penalizing drivers for reckless behaviour, more than just raising their insurance rates.
April 2, 2013, 7:41 am
manposeur from brokeland says:
Ok Tal better shut up. Time to slow down the drivers who think 4th ave is NASCAR raceway. Bike lanes and pedestrian islands, and speed bumps and they should start penalizing drivers for reckless behaviour, more than just raising their insurance rates.
April 2, 2013, 7:41 am
manposeur from brokeland says:
Ok Tal better shut up. Time to slow down the drivers who think 4th ave is NASCAR raceway. Bike lanes and pedestrian islands, and speed bumps and they should start penalizing drivers for reckless behaviour, more than just raising their insurance rates.
April 2, 2013, 7:41 am
manposeur from brokeland says:
Ok Tal better shut up. Time to slow down the drivers who think 4th ave is NASCAR raceway. Bike lanes and pedestrian islands, and speed bumps and they should start penalizing drivers for reckless behaviour, more than just raising their insurance rates.
April 2, 2013, 7:41 am
manposeur from brokeland says:
Ok Tal better shut up. Time to slow down the drivers who think 4th ave is NASCAR raceway. Bike lanes and pedestrian islands, and speed bumps and they should start penalizing drivers for reckless behaviour, more than just raising their insurance rates.
April 2, 2013, 7:41 am
Reader from Brooklyn says:
Is it really necessary to have a picture of the Vivian's shoes with the caption "Unsure footing" below it? Seems tasteless.
April 2, 2013, 7:55 am
John from Bay Ridge says:
And the 68th Precinct will continue to ignore speeding and reckless driving because the patrol officers can't be bothered to pull over the dozens of violations that they witness everyday, and the commander of the 68 doesn't care enough about pedestrian safety to make enforecment a priority. And Marty Golden is holding up speeding cameras because he cut a deal with the PBA, which wants more cops. Cops who experience tells us won't bother to enforce the laws against speeding and reckless driving.
April 2, 2013, 8:39 am
Dave from Park Slope says:
FU, Marty Golden.
April 2, 2013, 8:43 am
James from Bay Ridge says:
Why are we allowing preventable accidents to continue to harm us? Making minor changes to help 4th ave become more amenable to the majority of people, which use it to walk, is common sense.
April 2, 2013, 9:14 am
NYer from Brooklyn says:
Marty Golden has blood on his hands.
April 2, 2013, 9:22 am
Jym from PLG says:
The police spokeswoman didn't get the memo: presumptive exoneration of motorists is now called "inadvertent," not an "accident." Also, she forgot their mantra: No criminality suspected.
April 2, 2013, 10:55 am
Rufus Leaking from BH says:
That's Lutheran Medical Center, not Lutheran Hospital; Bredderman.

Learn where Lutheran Hospital was they are different places.
April 2, 2013, 12:16 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
In all honesty, I feel that it's a bad idea to narrow this space which will create congestion for cars which is worse than speeding as others point out. Many will see that as a waste of space if there is space not being used that could be used for moving cars. I mentioned the supersaturation effect which is what will happen here. And as much as ty and you hate cars they are needed whether you like them or not. I mentioned that you should look at why people drive not why they speed which is not the same thing. But especially the anti-car crowd, is doing. what they always do. What do you think happens if you take away car space for pedestrians? Let's not forget that Bloomberg lost congestion pricing which is why he's doing this here.
April 2, 2013, 1:24 pm
jay from nyc says:
Is it really an accident if we know that condition are such that this WILL happen, and nothing is done to mitigate those per-existing and well known conditions, which ARE killing people?
April 2, 2013, 9:30 pm
Emil from Bay Ridge says:
I seriously don't get it. I understand that to some of you the car is the devil if you are a believer in any case. The bottom line is that a woman was crossing mid block likely when the car had the green light. Reducing lanes is not the answer the answer is to for the police to start giving more summons for moving violations to car and yes to bikes and people that cross when they should not. If we were to turn 4th avenue to bike only and everyone started commuting by bike good luck to the pedestrians crossing the streets since 90% of bikes are color blind and never stop at a light.
April 2, 2013, 10:10 pm
MikeShstz from Bay Ridge says:
Its not the Cars, its not the roads, it the people driving. They are crazed, the best solution is more cops. Perhaps we could lure the cops out of the 68 with free Dunkin Dounts carts at frequent accident/incident locations.
April 2, 2013, 11:15 pm
Janet from Bay Ridge says:
It's not about liking cars or not - it's about safety. Bay Ridge is, and will be, very car friendly. Most of our neighborhood is perfectly fine. A few spots on fourth are chaotic, and apparently dangerous. If people need to drive that quickly, they should be on the highway, not the streets.
April 3, 2013, 3:19 am
Nancy from Bay Ridge says:
I live 1 block from the accident, have only been here 2 years and this is the 3rd pedestrian that I know of that was hit. I hate crossing 86th St. due to the cars making extremely sharp, fast turns from 4th onto 86th St. The S79 bus to Staten Island is usually on the corner and one can't see a speeding car making the turn which is why many people cross in the middle of the street such as this woman did. It's like a speedway and in need of change.
April 3, 2013, 4:58 am
Jeanette Grayeb-Mihal from Bay Ridge says:
It's about responsible driving habits, and more cops giving out tickets for speeders. If the city has time to give out tickets for parking violations, they have the money for more cops to give out tickets for gross violations of the speeding laws. Lastly, the neighborhood lacks any civic pride. It's very sad that we're reduced to such indifference by the residents of what was once a very peaceful neighborhood.
April 3, 2013, 9:44 am
trans alt from my bike says:
Cars can't inflict any damage when they are stuck in gridlock. Narrow 4th Ave now, and put bike lanes on 3rd and 5th to slow cars down there too.
April 3, 2013, 11:21 am
Peter Engel from Fort Greene says:
I hate even partially agreeing with Tal but backing up traffic isn't the answer. Traffic calming" only works in certain circumstances, and 4th Avenue isn't one of them

What we need is actual NYPD enforcement of the 30 mph speed limit. Let speed cameras issue the tickets if lazy cops won't do it.
April 3, 2013, 1:34 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope says:
Tal

Who says that road narrowing will cause congestion?

and

Maybe if traffic were moving slower this "accident" would never have happened.
April 3, 2013, 4:40 pm
Rufus Leaking from BH says:
Ain't it great? Everyone assumes the car was in the wrong.

But if you READ the copy:

Police said the 30-year-old white woman was crossing mid-block at around 6:18 am

she was in the wrong.
April 3, 2013, 4:55 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope says:
It is not about right or wrong. It is about the fact that 4th Ave. is dangerous and it can be fixed.
April 4, 2013, 7:59 am
Peter Engel from Fort Greene says:
The speed limit on NYC roads is 30 mph. No one does that on 4th Avenue. That law needs to be enforced against DRIVERS. Do that and there's no need for narrowing lanes. Putting the blame on the pedestrian victim doesn't excuse the fact that traffic goes too damn fast on that street.
April 4, 2013, 8:33 am
S from PPW says:
Peter, the NYPD is not interested in enforcing the speed limit. Period.

So it's up to DOT and community groups to redesign the roads to stop this public health menace.
April 4, 2013, 9:03 am
Rufus Leaking from BH says:
You can't fix stupid other michael, and blaming a car, when she stepped into traffic is stupid. As stupid as stepping into traffic.
April 4, 2013, 3:57 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope says:
I am not blaming anyone. I am saying that roads can be made safer so that less people will get hurt.

Rufus, have you ever jay walked? That does not make you stupid.
April 5, 2013, 6 am
Rufus Leaking from BH says:
Jay walking does not make you stupid.

Getting hit by a car when you do?

Yup.
April 5, 2013, 9:52 am
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
First of all, I wasn't online for the past few days. Also, how could I have made a comment on Tuesday at 2:34 PM when my workday doesn't even until 3 PM and I have no access to a computer at my work, which isn't inside a cubicle anyway? Nevertheless, I do thank Rufus Leaking for stating what really happened there. I am not blaming the victim, but I still find jaywalking to be going into harm's way, and enforcement on that should be done as well. The truth is that traffic calming is more of a short term solution, and placing it on a major thoroughfare will just make the traffic there worse. Please don't profile all motorists for not being responsible especially when you don't hear me doing that on pedestrians and cyclists for flouting the laws, I just go after those that two, but I thank those that behave responsibly. Many websites such as Streetsblog and Transportation Alternatives never call for pedestrians and cyclists to act responsibly, but rather encourage them to break laws in order to help their own causes.
April 5, 2013, 6:10 pm
Other Michael from Park Slope says:
Rufus, Accidents happen. They are stupid. Not everyone who has one is stupid.

Tal Who cares what you actually type at this point?
April 5, 2013, 7:43 pm

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