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A man was shot on Fifth Avenue Wednesday along the corridor where politicians are demanding police surveillance cameras to combat drug dealing.

Police say that the 34-year-old victim and his shooter got into a dispute near the corner of 69th Street around 7:40 pm. The victim began to walk off, but the shooter called after him, and told the other man to come back and follow him. The two were heading toward 68th Street when the shooter punched the victim in the face. The victim punched back, and the assailant pulled a gun.

Security cameras from nearby Fifth Avenue Wireless and Travel Agency show the victim jumping behind a nearby car, but the trigger-happy attacker squeezed off a shot that hit the victim in the leg. The gun-toting thug fled the scene.

Ali Abdul, an employee at Fifth Avenue Wireless and Travel Agency, said he heard the shot and ran out of his store to see the victim bleeding on the street.

“We all heard it, but nobody saw it happen. We all went outside and saw him on the ground,” said Abdul.

Abdul said he didn’t recognize the man, but overheard him say that he lived around the corner on 69th Street.

Residents of the blocks just off Fifth Avenue between 69th and 75th streets have long complained of thuggish drug-dealers plying their trade on the corners, and some neighbors are attempting to organize a civilian patrol to break up the illicit trafficking.

Community Board 10, Councilman Vincent Gentile (D–Bay Ridge), and state Sen. Marty Golden (R–Bay Ridge) are pushing to have the NYPD put at least one surveillance camera on the thoroughfare to help identify and eliminate dealers, though the police department could not give a time frame for when the video recorder will arrive.

Abdul said he approved of the plan to bring the corridor under the watchful eye of the police.

“I think that would be a good idea, so this won’t happen again,” said Abdul.

Reach reporter Will Bredderman at wbredderman@cnglocal.com or by calling (718) 260-4507. Follow him at twitter.com/WillBredderman.
Updated 10:10 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

T-Bone from DoBro says:
Stay below the line, criminals and thugs
April 26, 2013, 7:01 am
Me from Bay Ridge says:
Growing up in Sunset Park I always found the Bay Ridge superiority attitude insufferable. They really thought there was some kind of "line." Guess what? There's not!
April 26, 2013, 7:12 am
Kass from Bay Ridge says:
7:40 pm on Fifth Avenue, still a lot of people on the street. Drug dealers and teen gangs have no fear.
April 26, 2013, 7:50 am
C from Bay Ridge says:
We all knew this would happen soon. Now, what's NYPD's response asides from sticking one lonely officer on foot patrol on that block as I saw last night. Potted-plant policing anyone?

We told them in the community meeting at the church on 2/27 that it was getting to be ridiculous. They seemed to shrug off the gun violence comment when we said it would be inevitable.
April 26, 2013, 8:15 am
Kass from Bay Ridge says:
someday, these drug dealers and teen gangs will get out of control and innocent people and children will get hurt or die - in Bay Ridge, the safest neighborhood in Brooklyn
April 26, 2013, 9:28 am
jjm from ch says:
Cams or no cams, people are gonna do what they want regardless.
April 26, 2013, 11:48 am
K. from ArKady says:
True that. Old people do not understand that not only are young people not bothered by cameras, they in fact will themselves record their criminal undertakings and post them all up here on the intertubes.
April 26, 2013, 3:19 pm
Kass from Bay Ridge says:
if you don't want drug dealers and teen gangs take over the street, more people should go outside and walk around their neighborhood. if more people stay inside the house because they're afraid of crime, then criminals will have a home court advantage .
April 26, 2013, 4:59 pm
jjm from ch says:
Just look at parts of ft greene where there are cameras, people are still getting mugged & drug dealers are still out there doing their biz so there is really no way to stop it.
April 26, 2013, 7:09 pm
jjm from ch says:
@Kas i hear u on that note, some of these dudes are gonna feel like celebrities with the cams lol
April 26, 2013, 7:35 pm
Parker from Bay Ridge says:
I agree, we don't need cameras - it would send a clear message to have a police officer stand there In the night.
Most of Bay Ridge is fantastic, and remarkably safe - with the exception of this corner.
@Me - you're right, this corner has an awful sunset park feel. It's almost like not being In Bay Ridge at all.
April 27, 2013, 4:55 am
Me from Bay Ridge says:
@Parker. I think you sort of missed my point.
April 27, 2013, 7:17 am
Adele from Bay Ridge says:
@Parker.. if only it was "this corner" .. Sadly, we do not have a police officer to stand on one corner 24/7 yet less all the areas that are a problem.. but as a crime victim - it is reassuring to know that surveillance cameras offer help in capturing the images of those who commit crime on our community... i support them..
April 27, 2013, 8:01 am
Adele from Bay Ridge says:
@Parker.. if only it was "this corner" .. Sadly, we do not have a police officer to stand on one corner 24/7 yet less all the areas that are a problem.. but as a crime victim - it is reassuring to know that surveillance cameras offer help in capturing the images of those who commit crime on our community... i support them..
April 27, 2013, 8:01 am
Judahspechal from Bedstuy says:
Shooting on 5th Ave, how about shooting in Bay Ridge?
April 27, 2013, 9:23 am
Harry from Bay Ridgr says:
Adele says: " it is reassuring to know that surveillance cameras offer help in capturing the images of those who commit crime on our community"

By community you mean "near 5th Ave stores," and you assume that perps won't know cam locations and do their business on someone else's block.

Why must Bay Ridgers act as if police can't be expected to police?
April 27, 2013, 10:24 am
common sense from bay ridge says:
@harry: Because we know how the 68 likes to roll. Collect some envelopes from the restaurants so they can overlook triple parking in front, and do little to nothing the rest of the day.
April 27, 2013, 11:39 am
GKH from Bay Ridge says:
Arm the citizens. .. the bad guys will go elsewhere.
April 27, 2013, 8:05 pm
JAY from NYC says:
In war, beside the actual fighting on the ground, there are also shaping operations. For drug dealers, we should engage in shaping operations, the purpose of which is to stop glorifying drug dealers (do you hear me Mr. jay-fake aZZ-name Z?!) and show them for the unemployed uneducated scumbag fool clown losers that they are, and we also need to deal with the users as well.
Users drive the demand for this and at the end of the day are just as responsible for the killings. There needs to be hardcore interdiction on users houses, bank accounts, family's, and assets.
Guess what if you are using, even "just weed" you are crap and you are causing the problems like this shooting. You ARE the problem. If a family member is using and you don't turn them in, then YOU are THE problem.
We divested from South Africa because we believed that to be wrong, funny that the drug users and enablers in this country can't see the harm they cause and are NOT willing to divest from a system founded on murder.
We should instate the death penalty for drug users like they do in Singapore and Thailand.
April 27, 2013, 8:55 pm
Gerald from Shore Road says:
These teens are not drug dealers; they are angry young muslim radicals causing trouble. They write "PLO" and arabic messages on the doorways and lamp posts along 5th Avenue. They wear green-black-red bead to symbolize some sort of affiliation.

The 68 Pct knows the deal. They were robbing the patrons of the old man bars late in the evening; cops told the victims to take car service, and not to walk home.

These swine are tomorrow's pressure cooker bombers
April 29, 2013, 7:48 am
also here from br says:
Hey Gerald -- do you know who this shooter is?
April 29, 2013, 2:25 pm
chris from Sunset parl says:
these cameras arent necessary like gerald said look for the teenagers and adults who affiliate themselves with PLO and other popular bay ridge gangs they like to wear white green and red scarfs and tend to be arabic. Not saying these guys are responsible for all the crimes but they defidently do their part. There is no need for the cameras theres always gonna be crime camera or no camera
April 29, 2013, 3:51 pm
Jay from NYC says:
where is the evidence of that? There is NONE in the article and in fact police say its drug dealers, but we are supposed to believe its kids affiliated with the PLO?
PLO does not even really exist anymore, it was de-listed as a terror group in 1993. Most kids don't even know the capital of Kansas let alone a has been terror group.
April 29, 2013, 5:29 pm
also here from br says:
chris said - " Not saying these guys are responsible for all the crimes" ...
but they're the only people you made a point of targeting ... not drug dealers and not this kid who shot a guy -- even though the story is ABOUT a shooting and locals' fear of "thuggish drug dealers."
April 29, 2013, 7:44 pm
jjm from ch says:
By the term "thuggish drug dealers" i assume they mean black & hispanic right?
April 29, 2013, 9:01 pm
C from Bay Ridge says:
Jay, I too have seen the "PLO Mike" graffiti that was mentioned before. The O has a cross in it. There was a large job done on the wall jetting out from what was Yianni's facing towards 5th on Bay Ridge Ave. Other smaller ones done on doorways etc.
April 30, 2013, 3:37 pm
Mary from SP says:
Funny that there's still talk about 'a line' between SP and BR. This has been going on for decades. And now its no longer the usual suspects crossing the dividing line? Come on. Tell this to someone who wants to buy a bridge, they'll buy it.
May 3, 2013, 1:17 am
Cat Boy from Bay Ridge says:
Bay Ridge is ruined. That's the same corner where the Arabs were dancing in the street after 9-11. That part of Bay Ridge has become the Muslim Ghetto. I say we call in some Apache gunships and reduce the place to rubble.
May 6, 2013, 3:51 pm
Irish girl from Bay Ridge says:
Yes 69th street and 5th avenue is like a ghetto, however, it was not a Muslim doing the shooting it was a white guy.
May 7, 2013, 11:59 pm
joe from bay ridge says:
There were no Arabs dancing in the street here, Cat Boy.
May 8, 2013, 2:43 pm
j from bay ridge says:
it has nothing to do with drugs and everything to do with testosterone and a high sense of self entitlement. when they're treated like they can do no wrong they actually think they can do no wrong.

and for the record, they're arrested.
it had nothing to do with drug dealing beef but, it did have to do with illegal drugs.
May 13, 2013, 1:14 pm
j from bay ridge says:
it has nothing to do with drugs and everything to do with testosterone and a high sense of self entitlement. when they're treated like they can do no wrong they actually think they can do no wrong.

and for the record, they're arrested.
it had nothing to do with drug dealing beef but, it did have to do with illegal drugs.
May 13, 2013, 1:14 pm
q from br says:
why are people assuming it was a muslim kid when people involved were white.

patrick is an irish name

what muslim do you know with the name patrick... or tyler for that matter.
open your eyes theres so much more to this than ethnicity. the problem is in the neighborhood and how kids have nothing to do but drug.

68 knows the deal.. then they know that more than half of the kids in the neighborhood have serious drug dependancis and they must just do nothing to stop it then. this had nothing to do with PLO it had to do with drugs.. thats where the problem in our neighborhood is.

other than the fact that ignorant pieces of —— can try and profile who did it based on a blurb on bias text they read online. how about a little tolerance?

an irish kid did it.... 68 knows the deal. they're always wearing green and shamrocks... must be to show some type of affiliation.
if your mindset was fact all of bay ridge would be a ghetto. because crime is all over. and crime is not discrimatiory. ignorant people who think they know the situation are.... but you're wrong.

if you dont like diversity- move.
May 13, 2013, 1:20 pm
bystander from b.r. says:
... and, on the topic of local crime - the guy they nabbed for the five Bay Ridge home burglaries in April is an Italian-American from B'Hurst. lol.
May 14, 2013, 3:26 pm
John from Bay Ridge says:
The police assigned to the 68 precinct (Bay Ridge) are hard working and professional. Unfortunately, the City of New York & the NYPD brass assign far less Officers to Bay Ridge because the violence is low. Even though the community of Bay Ridges population are entitled to far more police we are scattered very thin. The bulk of the officers are assigned to communities of high violence (East NY, Flatbush, Crown Heights, Bed Sty, etc,) therefore we lose what we pay for in our taxes to other communities.
May 23, 2015, 5:24 pm

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