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Tunnel vision: R, G train riders want more from MTA

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Gee, are you kidding?

A group of politicians and activists are demanding that the MTA provide adequate replacements for the G and R trains when tunnel work literally stops the trains in their tracks before they leave the borough.

Plans to close the tunnel that takes the R train to Manhattan for 14 months beginning in August assume riders will switch to the 2,3,4, or 5, trains at the Court Street and Borough Hall station to get to the city, while shuttle buses will be provided to G-train riders who, for whatever reason, want to get to Queens when the tunnel work keeps the train in Brooklyn for 12 weekends this year and five weeks in 2014.

But that’s not enough for this group, who think the state agency needs to do more,

“The MTA should do everything in their power and then some,” Markowitz said outside Borough Hall on Thursday.

The group offered some suggestions for what the city could do instead, including increasing the frequency of service on nearby train lines, increasing bus service in the neighborhoods that are affected.

Riders said they understand the repairs have to be completed, but more consideration needs to be given to the people who use the service.

“The MTA needs to plan for the thousands of people whose lives will be disrupted,” said David Greenberg, an R-train rider and a member of subway advocacy group the Riders Alliance.

Reach reporter Jaime Lutz at jlutz@cnglocal.com or by calling (718) 260-8310. Follow her on Twitter @jaime_lutz.
Updated 10:12 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
There is a possible solution, but most of the riders will never agree to it if this will involve a fare hike. Unfortunately, there are times when fares have to be raised to help maintain the infrastructure. I have always found it an irony that riders want the best system in the world, but they don't want to be the ones covering it, which is why the tolls go up a lot more than fares do and it's not in quarters either, plus the failed attempt to get congestion pricing passed. Before anyone says anything, I do pay taxes to the MTA since they are a state agency not to mention I already pay a lot to them to help keep your fares low for the most part, so I expect a thank you on that even though I don't appreciate this.
July 1, 2013, 3:18 pm
JAY from NYC says:
This is Real simple, if the trains don't run, NYC dies, people leave economic activity gets killed. You simply can NOT have trains shut down for this kind of time and not see huge amounts of economic damage done to the city. This is BEYOND the usually level of irresponsibility of the MTA, this is BEYOND outrage, this is frikking third world stupid. People WILL lose their jobs because of this and what price will the MT pay for their incompetence and theft of public resources? NOTHING!!!
July 1, 2013, 6:17 pm
A from Greenpoint says:
Actually, Tal, it is OUR taxes that pay for public services in the rest of the state like pleasantville. NYC accounts for %75 of state tax, so i doubt your state income tax got even a penny dropped into the MTA slot. They keep raising our fares because Governor Cuomo siphoned 200 million dollars of TAX MONEY out of the MTA to be redistributed to the rest of the state. so actually it is you who can give thanks. The MTA keeps raising fares because they are desperate there is nothing else they can do because the state refuses to fund the PUBLIC transportation system in NYC. We pay more and more and get less and less. It amazes me, too, that in the 3 years i've lived in this neighborhood, thousands of people have been moving in to an already bustling neighborhood and we are still considered last, as if we dont exist. Sandy hit this station the hardest and we are still being considered last. I really dont think its out of the question to ask for increased bus service, i mean jeez louise its not as if theyre asking for limousine service! The writer of this article obviously doesnt get it either because "for whatever reason" people would want to get to Queens, there are three major connections in that station that take people into Manhattan to their jobs.
July 8, 2013, 9:54 am
A from Greenpoint says:
Actually, Tal, it is OUR taxes that pay for public services in the rest of the state like pleasantville. NYC accounts for %75 of state tax, so i doubt your state income tax got even a penny dropped into the MTA slot. They keep raising our fares because Governor Cuomo siphoned 200 million dollars of TAX MONEY out of the MTA to be redistributed to the rest of the state. so actually it is you who can give thanks. The MTA keeps raising fares because they are desperate there is nothing else they can do because the state refuses to fund the PUBLIC transportation system in NYC. We pay more and more and get less and less. It amazes me, too, that in the 3 years i've lived in this neighborhood, thousands of people have been moving in to an already bustling neighborhood and we are still considered last, as if we dont exist. Sandy hit this station the hardest and we are still being considered last. I really dont think its out of the question to ask for increased bus service, i mean jeez louise its not as if theyre asking for limousine service! The writer of this article obviously doesnt get it either because "for whatever reason" people would want to get to Queens, there are three major connections in that station that take people into Manhattan to their jobs.
July 8, 2013, 9:54 am
A from Greenpoint says:
Actually, Tal, it is OUR taxes that pay for public services in the rest of the state like pleasantville. NYC accounts for %75 of state tax, so i doubt your state income tax got even a penny dropped into the MTA slot. They keep raising our fares because Governor Cuomo siphoned 200 million dollars of TAX MONEY out of the MTA to be redistributed to the rest of the state. so actually it is you who can give thanks. The MTA keeps raising fares because they are desperate there is nothing else they can do because the state refuses to fund the PUBLIC transportation system in NYC. We pay more and more and get less and less. It amazes me, too, that in the 3 years i've lived in this neighborhood, thousands of people have been moving in to an already bustling neighborhood and we are still considered last, as if we dont exist. Sandy hit this station the hardest and we are still being considered last. I really dont think its out of the question to ask for increased bus service, i mean jeez louise its not as if theyre asking for limousine service! The writer of this article obviously doesnt get it either because "for whatever reason" people would want to get to Queens, there are three major connections in that station that take people into Manhattan to their jobs.
July 8, 2013, 9:54 am

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