Delayed tickets have drivers fuming

Citation central: Yelena and Yevgvemiy Vasilenko just last month started receiving tickets for driving in the bus lane in March and the couple — who have 13 tickets and expect more — got most at Rogers Avenue and Montgomery Street.
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This gives a whole new meaning to the term “ticket blitz.”

Months after the city activated surveillance cameras to ticket drivers who used the dedicated bus lanes created for the new B44 Select Bus Service, the tickets are finally arriving in the mail — shocking some drivers with thousands of dollars in fines.

Aron Rosenbaum of Williamsburg has received 25 tickets so far, at one point getting eight tickets in one day.

“It’s a very bad feeling,” said Rosenbaum.

The dedicated lanes were painted along the B44 Select Bus route stretching from Sheepshead Bay to Williamsburg in late November last year, but drivers were allowed to continue using the bus lanes consequence-free for nearly four months before the city switched on a series of cameras on March 17 to start photographing license plates and automatically issue $115 tickets for each violation.

But the process wasn’t quite automatic enough, since the first tickets only started arriving in late June — about three months after enforcement quietly began.

Many drivers are stunned by the staggering fines they’ve racked up for their long-forgotten infractions — and they’re crying foul over the long delay. Rosenbaum said that if he had gotten his first ticket sooner, he would have known enforcement had started and he would have avoided the lane before his fines mounted.

“If I got the ticket a week later — or even a month later — I’d stop right away,” said Rosenbaum. “All of a sudden, I have already more than three grand in tickets.”

Yelena Vasilenko of Sheepshead Bay, who received a ticket dated March 19 at the end of June, also complained that she didn’t know that the city had started issuing tickets until her family had accumulated months of violations.

Making matters worse, drivers are fined by each camera along the borough-spanning route, so many of Vasilenko’s tickets are just minutes apart. With thirteen tickets already and more arriving every few days, she said her husband dreads checking the mail each morning.

“He does not want to open the mailbox,” Vasilenko said.

David Oliel of Coney Island said he didn’t drive the route often, but he lets his friend borrow his car to drive neighborhood kids to a yeshiva in that area — and as the owner of the vehicle, Oliel is responsible for all tickets. He went through the calendar and counted up all the carpool days to calculate how many fines he’ll be liable for.

“I know it is going to be 50 or 60 tickets — maybe more,” said Oliel, who has already paid around $700 of the nearly $7,000 in tickets he expects to receive. “They’re still coming.”

Councilman Chaim Deutsch (D–Sheepshead Bay) said he has asked the Department of Transportation to void the months-old tickets because of their delayed arrival.

“It is common sense they should do it,” said Deutsch. “Getting summonses three months later is not normal.”

But a spokeswoman for the agency said the Department of Finance handles disputed tickets on an individual basis.

“Motorists who believe they received one in error can look to have it adjudicated through the Department of Finance,” she said.

Unfortunately, a three-month lag in issuing a ticket apparently is not enough of an error to sway judges in traffic court. Both Oliel and Vasilenko say they’ve tried to fight the tickets, but were summarily rebuffed.

The Department of Transportation could not explain why the tickets were delayed for so long, but the agency nonetheless insists that the fines must be paid on time

“The 30 day period begins the date the Notice of Violation is issued, not the date of the violation,” she said.

Updated 2:23 pm, July 28, 2014: The Department of Transportation has decided to temporarily suspend mailing out violations along the B44 SBS route that occurred between March 17 and July 25. The agency will dismiss all but the first violation issued during that timeframe, and refunds will be issued to those who have already paid.
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Reasonable discourse

Epiphany from Ex-Brooklyn says:
So, as far as I read this, a bunch of people illegally drove in the bus lane, got nabbed by camera enforcement, got tickets a bit late, and now are acting like crybabies. Or am I missing something?

According to the MTA, on an average weekday, approximately 41,000 transit passengers travel the B54 route, which the city has admirably tried to speed up and make more comfortable. That's 41,000 less cars on the route these whiners are clogging up by thinking they are too good to obey the law.
July 28, 2014, 2:06 am
Mike from Williamsburg says:
Since it's in the city's interest to deter people from using the bus lanes, sending fines sooner would be better.

But when I read something like this: "Making matters worse, drivers are fined by each camera along the borough-spanning route, so many of Vasilenko’s tickets are just minutes apart." So she was just riding in the bus lane like it's a regular traffic lane?

Or this? "“If I got the ticket a week later — or even a month later — I’d stop right away,” said Rosenbaum. “ Having clear paint and signs saying it's illegal isn't enough?

These people aren't sympathetic. They seem to be the type to always see how much they can get away with. And now they found out they can't get away with as much as they thought.
July 28, 2014, 5:43 am
ty from pps says:
Wow.... I guess the Brooklyn Paper's lazy reporting can really hit the jackpot sometimes! Walk outside and just start asking drivers "Do you want to whine and moan without any justification about how it was the City's fault you were blatantly breaking the law?"

“I know it is going to be 50 or 60 tickets — maybe more,” said Oliel, who has already paid around $700 of the nearly $7,000 in tickets he expects to receive. “They’re still coming.”

Are you effing kidding me!? GOOD! I hope it's $10,000.
July 28, 2014, 8:04 am
Or from Yellow Hook. says:
"Making matters worse, drivers are fined by each camera along the borough-spanning route, so many of Vasilenko’s tickets are just minutes apart."

Double jeapardy. One per trip.

But don't whine if you were doing what you aren't supposed to and got caught.

Stay out of the bus lane if you are not a bus.
July 28, 2014, 8:18 am
ty from pps says:
Seriously, the more I think about this, the more pathetic these idiots sound. I drove to Bed-Stuy a couple times last week down Rogers Ave with the B44 Select Bus lane. It's REALLY clear. Brown stripe and huge blue and white signs saying "Bus Lane, Buses Only." Very easy to understand.

One evening it was only 6:30pm, so I stayed in the left lane. The other evening it was 8:30 or so, so I could use the bus lane since it was open to all traffic after 7:00pm. This isn't rocket science. It's called following the rules associated with the *privilege* of operating a motor vehicle.

I can only imagine what other lovely behaviors Mr. and Mrs. Vasilenko and Mr. Rosenbaum exhibit when they get behind the wheel... What laws can I break because I am not 100% sure they are enforced and then react with shock and horror when I "discover" they are, in fact, illegal.
July 28, 2014, 8:20 am
ty from pps says:
Yeah, Or... "double jeopardy." If I got a ticket for running a red light, so I should be able to keep running red lights until I finish my journey, right? Probably had ample opportunity to *exit* the bus lane every single block where there is a big blue sign telling them what they are doing is wrong.

At least the rest of your comment is actually reasonable. A glimmer of hope.
July 28, 2014, 8:27 am
ty from pps says:
These idiots should count themselves lucky. These tickets are issued as the equivalent of parking tickets, so they just have to pay. But they won't lose their licenses (though, maybe they should?)

If they drove in the shoulder on the BQE, they'd have a fine *and* points on their license.
July 28, 2014, 8:36 am
Common Cents from Crown Heights says:
It would help if the DoT would enforce the no parking during rush hours, daily I take Flatbush, Rogers and Nostrand and what should be two driving lanes is reduced to one because of parked cars. But even if they do tow these cars some drivers will still chose to take the route they believe is clearer, it's a gamble an sometimes you lose. Then there are some drivers that don't pay attention, north of Eastern Parkway you have a different no driving in the bus lane time as you do south. As far as the delayed ticketing goes, it's probably no coincidence that the tickets came just as the new fiscal year was about to begin.
July 28, 2014, 9:19 am
ty from pps says:
Common Cents -- It's not the DOT's responsibility to enforce parking laws. It's the NYPD. The NYPD does not like to enforce a whole host of laws that would make the city run smoother. When walking a beat is "beneath" the average police officer, ticketing a car isn't going to happen (as clearly evidenced by the NYPD's own traffic violation statistics).

What I do find infuriating is the "traffic enforcement officers" (i.e., metermaids) dutifully ticketing for expired meters, but just walking by the double-parked cars NEXT TO the expired meter vehicle. I think this is better in Manhattan. The metermaids seem a bit more straightforward -- less corrupt -- than the ones in Brooklyn.
July 28, 2014, 9:26 am
Walker from Brooklyn says:
If you can't see the red paint and the giant "BUS LANE" lettering, you are not fit to drive in the city. Pay up and shut up.
July 28, 2014, 9:38 am
Tal F from UWS says:
I can maybe sort of see how if you lend your car out on a regular basis, you can be upset that you are unable to admonish the driver for these infractions and/or stop lending your car out to that driver who is wracking up all sorts of traffic violations. But if it was you doing the driving, I have no sympathy. Yelena Vasilenko comes across as someone completely unfit to drive. Each block of bus lane violation is a separate violation, just like running multiple red lights. Sorry, you broke the law, now pay the fine. Look at her words, she didn't "know that the city had started issuing tickets." So she knew it was illegal, but did it anyway because she thought she could get away with it! Doubtless Yelena also speeds and runs lights and stop signs whenever she is reasonably confident no one is around to give her a ticket. I hope this convinces her to stop driving and take the bus instead!
July 28, 2014, 12:09 pm
Guest from NYC says:

Seems pretty clear to me.

July 28, 2014, 12:57 pm
Peter from Brooklyn Heights says:
I am SHOCKED and OUTRAGED that I'm getting caught for something that I USED TO GET AWAY WITH!

July 28, 2014, 2:22 pm
Epiphany from Ex-Brookln says:
Chaim Deutsch is a founder of the Flatbush Shomrim, (Hebrew for “watchers”) who "who patrol the neighborhood and ostensibly serve strictly as the “eyes and ears” for the police.

This Brooklyn politician seems to have his own personal approved list of what laws can get broken and who is allowed to get away with breaking them.

It's interesting to note that another society in the 1930's also had "watchers" (though they had a different translated name), and I'm suspecting that they also turned a blind eye to certain lawbreakers who had the right political and neighborhood affiliations and connections.
July 28, 2014, 3:01 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
It's one thing to fine someone for a moving violation, but to not give it to them until months later is another thing. If it was so important, then why wasn't it given to them immediately after? Why all this wait? If it didn't seem like an issue then, it shouldn't be one now. Nevertheless, the amount on the fines are way too high, then again, it's just sticking it to the little guy because they have hardly any connections to fight them, and probably the city is broke if they are that high especially when they are probably the cash cow.
July 28, 2014, 3:18 pm
John from Williamsburg says:
Having automated cameras issuing traffic tickets ... well, that frees up more NYPD officers for murdering innocent people on YouTube.
July 28, 2014, 3:56 pm
Common Cents from Crown Heights says:
The people can fight if that is their desire, make the pols pay come election time and just don't tow the party line. The people can also sign petitions like this one:
July 28, 2014, 3:58 pm
Daniel from Flatbush says:
I'm so glad those cameras are finally issuing tickets! Those drivers in the bus lane on Rogers haven't just been driving in the bus lane, they have been driving like maniacs in the bus lane. I just wish there were speed cameras at all those intersections issuing license points as well. The DOT should send these tickets promptly, but I have zero sympathy for these whiners. The signs are prominent and the paint is clear. They knew they were driving in the bus lane.
July 28, 2014, 4:57 pm
jay from nyc says:
maybe they thought they could drive in the lane once a day the entire way and only get one ticket and that is what suprised them, but beyond that, if you dirve some place you are not supposed to you take the chance you are gonna pay for it, and if you whine about it then that just makes you a punk.
As for the argument that they did not get notice for awhile, that is also bunk. What, if it take the authorities six months to catch up to you for robbing a bank, you think its ok to rob 4 other banks in the meantime? Or if you murder someone and it take the police 15 years to figure out who did it, you gonna argue that at trial?
These two are quite a pair. Lucky for them the city is going to waive all those other tickets. Guess it pays to get a city council member to go to the press about it and turn it into a political issue.
July 28, 2014, 5:46 pm
Guest from NYC says:
@ty: Different Tals!

But you're right, the city should not have retracted the fines.

POV's in the bus lanes are a huge problem that really slows down transit (AKA, most people).
July 28, 2014, 9:43 pm
Guest from NYC says:
Title should actually read:

"UPDATED: Delayed tickets have straphangers fuming."
July 28, 2014, 9:45 pm
mreich from flatbush says:
I would like to publicly thank Councilman Chaim Deutsch for his hard work and efforts on behalf of the community. Recently, many people from across Brooklyn were unfairly ticketed with thousands of dollars in erroneous bus lane violations, myself among them.

Dozens of residents were entangled in this complex issue and completely clueless how to proceed. Upon being contacted, Councilman Deutsch spearheaded the initiative to work with the DOT in dismissing these tickets - which he managed to accomplish less than a week.

More impressively, he successfully advocated on the behalf of many people who are not even constituents of his district. We must publicly express our appreciation Councilman Deutsch and thank him for his ability to achieve genuine results for the community as a whole.
July 28, 2014, 10:40 pm
Mike from Williamsburg says:
mreich, what a disgusting comment. you should be ashamed.
July 29, 2014, 5:30 am
Rob from Greenpoint says:
I wonder, will Council Member Deutsch advocate on behalf of the thousands of bus riders inconvenienced by these drivers who broke the law?
July 29, 2014, 6:47 am
Oliver from Sunset Park says:
mreich - Did you illegally drive in the bus lane? Then what, exactly, was unfair about your ticketing? Nothing, because the bus lane is clearly marked. You only say that it's "unfair" because you THOUGHT that you could get away with it. I don't think that "unfair" means what you think it means. If you got more than one ticket, it just means that you are a serial offender and even more deserving of the consequences.

Deutsch should be ashamed of himself for spearheading this "initiative" to defend unsafe and illegal drivers from the consequences of their actions.
July 29, 2014, 10:14 am
Ted from Park Slope says:
I bet serial killers feel the same way.

Man, they started digging in my backyard and found 25 bodies I killed over the years and wanted to put me away more and more with each body. But that's so unfair.
July 29, 2014, 11:58 am
Jim from Cobble Hill says:
The notion that "oh I'd have stopped doing something illegal if I knew I was gonna get in trouble for it" is so self-absorbed and indicative of the narcissistic baby boomer car-driving set that it's a downright parody of itself.

People: You drove where you shouldn't have, multiple times. Now pay your multiple tickets.
July 29, 2014, 12:47 pm
use your brains please says:
Reality check, people: what's the point of giving out tickets? to serve as a deterrence and prevent drivers from doing it again.

If the DOT truly wanted to keep the bus lanes clear, it would've given out these tickets within a week after the violation occurred - not wait till 4 months later to start ticketing people for minor traffic infractions (read: not major crimes like murder or robbery) that happened ages ago.

mreich is correct. The city viewed this as a CASH COW and tried to milk hundreds of brooklyn drivers unfairly. yes, drivers are sometimes forced to go in the bus lane because of double parked trucks and cars. like it or not, it's the reality of our crowded and congested streets.

Councilman chaim deutch did his job, which is, helping out the people of new york. he deserves thanks for it.

(And FYI: if you would've been slapped with $10,000 worth of outdated bus lane violations, you'd be singing a very different tune.)
July 29, 2014, 12:53 pm
Oliver from Sunset Park says:
I agree, the tickets should have gone out in a timely manner, but that doesn't make the tickets themselves "unfair". you don't want tickets, don't break the law. FYI - I wouldn't have been slapped with $10,000 worth of violations, because I know better than to drive in a marked bus lane.

Also, there is not reason why a driver is "forced" into a bus lane except impatience. Especially not over and over again, racking up thousands in violations. If you think that the streets are too congested to drive legally and safely, then maybe you should be riding the bus (then you would be allowed in the bus lane). Your arguments don't hold water and sound like the excuses of someone who is upset that they didn't get away with something.

If Deutch really wanted to help out the people of New York (and not just entitled, law breaking, car drivers). He would be working to educate and enforce traffic laws which help the masses. Dedicated bus lanes serve more New Yorkers than individual, private cars.

(And FYI: If you were on a bus delayed by private cars driving illegally, you's be singing a very different tune.)
July 29, 2014, 1:42 pm
TOM from Sunset Park says:
Only confirms that all this is to grab revenue. There was a 'grace period' with no tix. Were warnings mailed? This would have deterred further violations, and end these complaints. The new speed cameras prompted warning notices in the mail for some time period before $50 tix were sent. What happened here; greed won out?

The new NYC speed cameras have no warning signage anywhere in the city. It's the threatening signage posted anywhere and everywhere that prompts compliance. Nassau and everywhere else they have speed cameras they have signage. Even when there is no active camera.

Follow the money.
July 29, 2014, 2:11 pm
Oliver from Sunset Park says:
Why do we need speed camera warnings? Do you only follow the speed limit when you know you'll get caught? Don't speed, then it won't matter if there are speed cameras present or not. That's not a money grab, it's just law enforcement.

I'm worried to find out someone with that type of dangerous perspective lives (and presumably drives) in my neighborhood, where my kids could be put in danger.
July 29, 2014, 2:42 pm
ty from pps says:
(Oh, and I see the Brooklyn Paper removed my apology to Tal F. I am still sorry I mixed you up with the very intelligent and beautiful Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville. He is clearly a major source of revenue for the paper, so all of my less-than-flattering remarks have been removed. Clearly I was in the wrong to suggest he is anything but a strong, virile man who is a great asset to Brooklyn, even though he lives in Pleasantville in his mom's basement and only visits here, in his car, parking in resident parking, a few times a year.)
July 29, 2014, 3:16 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Cameras that are placed are always about the revenue first with anything else, including safety, last. If no revenue is being made, then they are seen as nothing more than a net money loser. The reason why there is sign saying that the camera is there is because motorists will know and not brake the law hence no revenue can be made from that. As for the tickets being mailed, they should be given as soon as the violations are made otherwise they should be voided and not be paid for taking too long to give. On a side note, cut the personal attacks, ty, because I find this acting very childish and cowardly at the same time.
July 29, 2014, 3:41 pm
ty from pps says:
Tal -- Do you think that was an intelligent comment or one based in ignorance? I think it's time for some serious self-assessment of your grasp of reality.
July 29, 2014, 4:04 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Ty, I hardly found what you said in one of your latest comments to be intelligent but rather insulting.
July 29, 2014, 4:11 pm
ty from pps says:
To help you, Tal. Ask yourself these questions: Why are the motorists breaking the law? If your answer is, "Because there is no big picture of a camera," then you're beyond help.
July 29, 2014, 4:11 pm
ty from pps says:
(Tal -- My 4:16pm comment was intended to be insulting. Glad you're smart enough to pick up on such nuance.)
July 29, 2014, 4:12 pm
Common Cents from Crown Heights says:
Good point made about double parked cars. It is not being enforced. Go down Nostrand drivers double by Alan's bakery, both sides of Church ave and also between D and Foster. On Rodgers it's the automotive shops. With that said yes the driving force behind these cameras is revenue. Studies have shown an increase in accidents when traffic cameras are used. But stats are stats and can be skewed either way. Just google red light camera studies. But we live in a city where people want programs and services but no one wants to pay more in taxes. The money has to come from somewhere. Don't like it? Let your elected representatives know it come election time or sign this:
July 29, 2014, 4:55 pm
ty from pps says:
Common Cents -- Red light cameras are *not* lane enforcement cameras/sensors or speed cameras. The increased collision stats are not about traffic cameras in general. (Speed, lane enforcement and toll enforcement cameras don't contribute to rear-end collisions.)

Trust me, I'd love to see the NYPD actually doing some enforcement that saves lives (deaths in traffic are on par with homicide in the city). However, they don't want to, don't think it's their job. Their published statistics show this clearly. Pulling over speeders and other dangerous drivers is not part of their para-military ethos.
July 29, 2014, 5:02 pm
ty from pps says:
Furthermore -- and this should frighten you -- The vast majority of people that KILL another human with their car don't get charged with any crime. Many many many don't even get a moving violation. That's just the dead people. Collisions resulting in serious injury have even a lower probability of any sort of criminal charge or even a ticket. The NYPD doesn't do their job. They don't let the courts decide guilt or innocence. They do everything in their power to *avoid* investigating traffic collisions.

If you want to murder someone, use a car. The NYPD will barely investigate, they'll say "No criminality suspected," maybe give you a ticket for not signaling a lane change, and everyone will go along their merry ways (well, except the dead or severely injured person). Of course, they or their families won't even have any recourse in the civil court because the NYPD has made sure to collect as little evidence as possible. Maybe a few words in a note pad? "Car. Person. Ouch. Going home."
July 29, 2014, 5:11 pm
Common Cents from Crown Heights says:
The red light camera/speed camera comments were in response to an earlier post. As far as the NYPD not doing their jobs, nothing is new there. The people get what they deserve and when they tow the party line the status quo stays the same. Same type of pols, same types of commissioners, same type of non accountability.
July 29, 2014, 5:54 pm
Sean from Lefferts Gardens says:
Many people seem to overlook the fact that the route going down Nostrand Rogers has bus lane signs that appears to be defective. Take for instance, on Union street the bus lane signage says Monday through Friday 7-10am and 4-7. Drive 25 feet and you're now at the corner of Eastern Parkway where the signage reads bus lane EXCEPT on SUNDAY and in effect 7am -7pm. Why is signage different only several feet away from each other? It creates confusion. I got quite a few tickets at this camera and I went to dispute with pics showing that the signs say two different things and I was still found guilty. This is insane. Some signs don't even say the days that the bus lane is in effect. How can the city enforce something where the signs are mix and match. Between Empire Blvd. and Eastern Parkway the bus lane signage changes three times and guess what, they have two cameras within 3 blocks of each other. This doesn't make sense. If you want to see my pictures of the street signs email
July 29, 2014, 9:35 pm
Sean from Lefferts Gardens says:
Oh and one more thing, driving down Rogers or even driving up Nostrand Ave. has a good amount of cars illegally parked or double parked causing insane backups. Very easy to lose your cool and just take the bus lane to get around it.
July 29, 2014, 9:41 pm
ty from pps says:
there should be a lane for food trucks too.
July 29, 2014, 10:15 pm
ty from pps says:
Sean -- "Very easy to lose your cool and just take the bus lane to get around it." You are allowed to patially 'dip' into the bus lane to get around an obstacle and enter it to turn at intersections... but you can't drive any distance in the lane. That's what the cameras will ticket. So, I'd suggest keeping your cool and tell the NYPD to start doing their job and clear the double parking.
July 30, 2014, 12:26 am
Epiphany from Ex-Brooklyn says:
Beware of Chaim Deutsch. Here is a blueprint for the worst of the worst in Brooklyn politics. This flawed human is mired in self-interest, ignorance and hypocrisy. Aren't there more important infrastructure issues to address than wasting time and political capital advocating for photographed scofflaws?

Support public servants who don't use their influence to bully city agencies and don't encourage private police forces in communities, and who enforce the laws with fairness and equality—not privilege.
July 30, 2014, 2:22 am
Common Cents from Crown Heights says:
Sean you're 100% right about the signage, but that's done purposefully as a way to generate revenue. Just as cities across the globe that have installed red light cameras also adjust light timing and cities that install speed cameras also reduce the speed limit. You will never win an argument in traffic court. The only time you stand a chance is come election time. And as far as those double parked cars, like I said earlier Nostrand Ave near Alan's bakery, Both sides of Church Ave, and btwn Ave D and Foster are ridiculous. On Rodgers it's the auto shops. Tickets come few and far between and tow trucks are never in sight. They don't even enforce the no rush hour parking. In a couple of weeks I'm going to go down Utica Ave to see how they try and enforce the bus lanes especially btwn Linden and Church. Should be fun!
July 30, 2014, 7:17 am
ty from pps says:
Oh lordy... will you guys stop with the conspiracy theories. It's just pathetic. If you can't be alert and patient enough to navigate these oh-so-difficult streets, maybe you should be on the bus instead. In a city where the NYPD has almost no enforcement of traffic laws, the whiny folks seem to have this amazing ability to get tickets. Seems to suggest you are a TERRIBLE driver and probably trying to break the law as much as possible.

Why have I never gotten a traffic ticket after all these years of driving here? Why have I gotten only about 4 parking tickets (total, not per month)? It's REALLY REALLY not that difficult to drive like a sane person and take 2 mins of effort of park properly.
July 30, 2014, 8:38 am
Sean H from Lefferts Gardens says:
Union street and Rogers 5 feet before the bus lane camera:

Eastern Parkway and Rogers in clear view of bus lane camera:

so while the Union Street signage says its okay you drive 5 feet up and you're in bus lane violation even though the signage just said it was okay between the hours on 10am-4pm Monday-Friday. There is no way I'm the only person in Brooklyn that see's the flaw in this. Also The ROgers B44 route seems to be the only route that has inconsistent Bus lane signage that changes three times in a 6 block span.

Lastly, how it is possible that the city is trying to enforce signage that doesn't even state what days the bus lane is in effect. Pic of that here :

Judge found me liable for all these bus lane violations at Eastern Parkway even with the above evidence. How is that even possible. The City really needs to address this bus route and do so quickly.
July 30, 2014, 10:49 am
Bendrix from Crown Heights says:
mreich: "Dozens of residents were entangled in this complex issue and completely clueless how to proceed."

You proceed by paying the fines, ——.
July 30, 2014, 11:06 am
ty from pps says:
Sean --
Do you know what happens between your first two photos? You cross a 7-lane intersection (i.e., Eastern Parkway). It's not 5 feet.

And your last question. If a sign doesn't state days of the week, it means ALL DAYS, every day.

Not that hard to understand.

If you're having trouble understanding, I would suggest not driving it the bus lane at all. Easy peasy. Problem solved. You can't get a bus lane ticket if you don't drive in the bus lane.
July 30, 2014, 11:09 am
ty from pps says:
By the way, Sean. Those "inconsistent" signs are all coupled with No Parking signs. Some stretches of the road allow parking when the Bus Lane restriction is not in force -- you can't have Buses Only and parking at the same time. (It's in your photo) Other stretches are No Parking/No Standing zones, so the bus lane can remain restricted the whole time. So, except for the few minutes around the transition, I suspect it's probably pretty clear when a bus lane is buses only or when it's for parking. You can tell by the parked cars. If you don't see any parked cars, you should assume it's for buses only.
July 30, 2014, 11:15 am
Sean from Lefferts Gardens says:
Ummmm, no. Ive spent time looking up streets signs on DOT and everything from Linden BLVD to well past Eastern Parkway along Rogers Avenue is consistent. Union street is the right before Eastern parkway so i have no idea why you mention 7 rows of traffic. Right above that sign on Union is a camera that detects the cars in the bus lane. Then there is another camera in middle of the block on Rogers between Eastern and Union that's focused on the cars not making that right turn in either the service road or main road. I got the ticket so I see the video and know first hand. You seem to be talking from a place that doesn't know and finding any reason to make my claims sound unreasonable. While I'm here I'll also say that the bus lane doesn't need a dedicated lane Sunday morning at 7am. We all know that Sunday morning is not peak hours. Is there anything else i didn't address?
July 30, 2014, 12:26 pm
ty from pps says:
If there's no need for a dedicated bike lane on Sunday morning, then the left lane is probably unproblematic as well. So, having a dedicated bike lane on Sunday morning isn't really an issue... is it?

Like I said. If you can't handle the overwhelming complexity, either stay out of the bus lane (always) or take the bus.
July 30, 2014, 2:20 pm
ty from pps says:
ha! bike lane --> bus lane
July 30, 2014, 9:37 pm
Sean from Lefferts Gardens says:
so you insist on dodging around and only respond to me talking about dedicated bus lane. Guess that's the nature of the internet.
Aug. 1, 2014, 5:03 pm
To all the non Drivers! from Corwn Heights says:
First of all All the lanes Was just being painted and the Signs was still covered meaning it wasn't Enforce! The bus lane was never open till they started Uncovering the Bus lane Only signs! This is Foul Play and should Be Brought to a Federal court! What about Bikers? Why can they get tickets for running red lights , Riding on sidewalks and even hitting cars mirrors and keep going?????
Sept. 29, 2014, 5:14 pm
Miguel A. Hernandez Sr. from East Williamsburg says:
I just crossed over for a few second to move around some double parked delivery trucks and taking precautions before moving back into regular driving lane I get this surprise in the mail a month later WTF is going on here this is not right and further more most of the work being done on the streets is not 100% completed only then with notification through the news media and general DMV mail outs notifying you of the new rules on MTA special Bus lanes then if you brake the law you should pay for it.
Dec. 10, 2014, 10:47 pm

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