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Fifth time’s a charm! City plan for Dumbo Jay Street bike lane finally okayed

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They’ve changed lanes … again!

The Department of Transportation has finally come up with a winning plan for a bike lane on Jay Street between York and Prospect streets in Dumbo after five presentations to Community Board 2’s transportation committee. The final proposal, which would include two dedicated bike lanes on the one-way street, was the result of several hours of discussions with city officials and drew approval from panel members who cheered the city’s willingness to listen.

“It’s great, thank you for being responsive,” said Brian Howald, who sits on the transportation committee.

The panel voted to approve the plan by a tally of 9–0 with one abstention.

The latest iteration proposes installing a six-foot bike lane for Downtown-bound cyclists riding against traffic that is protected by a three-foot striped buffer and parking lane. There will be another six-foot bike lane on the other side of the street closest to York Street station for waterfront-bound riders, next to a traffic lane for drivers cruising in the same direction.

The new plan is a big turnaround from the city’s February proposal in which it suggested riders pedaling toward Downtown cycle in a “contra-flow” lane — or one headed in the opposite direction of traffic — that was separated from oncoming vehicles by mere yellow lines. The community board hated the idea and told the transportation department it needed to do more to protect those uphill cyclists from the 3,000 pound hunks of metal traveling downhill.

The city drew up a popular plan to install a two-way, parking-protected bike lane before that, but reps returned and claimed it would actually be dangerous for riders to zoom downhill next to a row of parked cars that blocked their view of traffic.

Other editions included another contra-flow lane and creating two-way traffic on the one-way street by using sharrows — markings painted on the road indicating cars should share the road with cyclists.

Now that everyone has found a proposal they are happy with, the city will make the changes by summer, according to a transportation department spokeswoman.

Reach reporter Lauren Gill at lgill@cnglocal.com or by calling (718) 260–2511. Follow her on Twitter @laurenk_gill
Updated 8:04 am, May 24, 2017
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Reasonable discourse

Resident from Brooklyn says:
Excellent! DUMBO really could be such a bike friendly neighborhood with more projects like this and less of a priority on parking. Thanks, DOT!
May 24, 2017, 10:16 am
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
I still think this was done out of elitism, but that's the bike zealots for you. I won't be surprised if residents are still opposed to this, because I don't see any mention of them in the article. If anything, they are most likely against it as always especially since cyclists have the tendency to flout traffic laws. Had the committee opposed this, they would be crying foul and demand that they should be purged otherwise they get praised for going their way.
May 24, 2017, 3:33 pm
NN from Boerum Hill says:
This looks like a very good plan.
May 24, 2017, 3:47 pm
Peter from Brooklyn says:
Tal,

I know this is hard for you to understand. But cyclists are residents. Where do you think these people come from?!?!

You on the other hand are not a resident. So go away.
May 24, 2017, 5 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Peter, prove to me that the community actually supports this, and I don't mean transplanted bike zealots that are from Streetsblog or Transportation Alternatives that were told to come over and flood those hearings, otherwise I will take your statement for slander as well as attacking me by means of default.
May 24, 2017, 5:09 pm
Peter from Brooklyn says:
Tal,

Once again how in the world is this hard for you to understand?

A person who is in the community (i.e cycling on the bike path) is part of the COMMUNITY! Members of the community supporting this shows that members of the community support this.

A person from Plesantville who trolls internet comment boards from their parent's basement is not part of the community. You are not part of the community.

NOW DO YOU GET IT!?!? Take a few moments to read through clearly before posting more nonsense.
May 24, 2017, 5:49 pm
Josh from Manhattan says:
Tal,

Why don't you prove to us that the residents in the neighborhood are against it? Why not go ask your neighbor? Oh wait, I forgot do a moment that you live over an hour away and neither live in nor commute to work in Brooklyn. So your ability to get a pulse on what the neighborhood feels is akin to getting the pulse of what residents in LA feel. My bad.

Anyway, so let me get this straight - 9 members of the community (the committee members) voted in favor of it. Only Tal from Pleasantville voted against it. Well gee, the community must be against it if Tal from Pleasantville is against it!
May 24, 2017, 7:24 pm
Josh from Manhattan says:
Do=FOR
May 24, 2017, 7:25 pm
Maggie from Downtown Brooklyn says:
I am against it too, and I am a long time resident of downtown Brooklyn. I also think bike enthusiasts are over-represented in city government and those who make policy. For a comparatively small number of cyclists, navigating the city streets becomes harder and more unpleasant for pedestrians and cars alike. Many people cannot participate due to age, health, economic, financial, and other reasons. I know you may say the same about cars, but they are long established, vital to our economy, and they are not going away. What do bikes add -- except an adrenaline rush and exercise? In fact, one could argue that they take $$$ from public transit ...
May 25, 2017, 7:50 am
Alan from Red Hook says:
Yes! This is what I do anyway. Glad to see DOT making the desire line legal
May 25, 2017, 7:52 am
Josh from Manhattan says:
Maggie, DOT's studies show that businesses along bike lanes actually INCTEASE their business, rather than decrease, giving a net positive effect to businesses along the corridor. Besides the adrenaline rush, they help lower greenhouse gases given off by both personal vehicles and public transportation. The exercise lowers health care costs for both cyclists and non-cyclists. They are not taking money away from public transit because our public transit is notoriously overburdened. Instead, they are doing their part to ease overcrowding, and doing so in a method that does not add additional pollution emitting machines to the streets. Passenger cars are not vital to our (NYC's) economy, but trucks are. This is why DOT and cycling advocates push for more dedicated loading zones, which are parking spaces reserved for delivery vehicles to keep them from having to double park. As for financial constraints to people not being able to participate, this really is not true since utilizing a bike is orders of magnitude cheaper than utilizing a car, and, believe it or not, public transportation. An annual citibike membership for someone in public housing is $5 per month, which is less than the cost of a round trip fare on the subway. Bikes can also be found given away for free on Craigslist. Bike lanes are not reserved for, nor are they primarily utilized by, recreational cyclists riding expensive, out-of-reach-for-most bicycles. They are primarily used by food delivery workers and commuters. The spandex crowd are not using bike lanes, but are utilizing some of the few major cycling paths (Central Park, Prospect Park, Westside Greenway, etc) and long distance routes (Riverside Drive, going over the bridge to 9W on the NJ side, etc). Bike lanes are for the people, not the elite. Further, statistics from DOT and NYPD clearly show that there is a significant decrease in injuries and deaths to all road users (pedestrians, cyclists, and CAR OCCUPANTS) when bike lanes and corresponding pedestrian islands are added to a street. Average speeds and travel time are not significantly affected, although people grumble about it all the time without legitimate data to back it up.

I have a car. I drive. But I don't use my car intracity much, because it is simply just impractical. I do typically drive to Brooklyn, though, when I am going outside of downtown.

And I am not arguing that there aren't cyclists who ride in a way that is unsafe for pedestrians either. There definitely are, and I strongly believe they should be held to task for riding in an unsafe manner (such as the guy who hit the waitress in Greenpoint). But it is unfair to penalize all cyclists by making them less safe because of the actions of a few. We, as a community of human beings, need to prioritize the greater good than selfish greed.
May 25, 2017, 10:22 am
S from Greenpoint says:
Thank you Josh!
May 25, 2017, 12:27 pm
Sid from Boerum hill says:
Bike riders deserve a safe place to ride too. Bikes are increasing in use. This was the third plan presented to the committee and by far the best one for everyone. Ps I don't ride a bike
May 25, 2017, 1:09 pm
Peter from Brooklyn says:
Several people from Brooklyn one from Manhattan (i.e the community) - are for the plan

One random troll from the suburbs - not for the plan.

The people who matter take the win. Plan goes through.
May 25, 2017, 2:42 pm
Jim from Greenpoint says:
Sid. pedestrians and school kid deserve to be safe, unfortunately must bikers are not following rules and regulations !!!!
May 25, 2017, 4:31 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Josh, I find the way you start to be hypocritical especially on saying where I live and that I shouldn't be here. By your logic, neither should you since you reside in Manhattan. Please explain why it's alright for you state your view here despite where you live while calling for censorship on my views just because I'm not someone local. Last time I checked, I didn't see anything here reading "Locals Only", which means that anyone can be here. More importantly, I have never called for anyone I didn't like to be censored let along make personal attacks, which makes you and your fellow bike zealots the real trolls here. Another thing is that I don't have anything against those that who disagree with me, but when you attack me or call for censorship, that is crossing the line. Overall, if your side has the right to express support for bike lanes, then my side has just as much of a right to oppose them. One of the main reasons I see the call for this as being elitist is because according to a recent study by the US Census Bureau, cyclists only make up just under 1% of all NYC commuters, but I still don't understand why they still feel that their needs should outweigh all others. On a side note, I'm still waiting for proof that Paul Steely White, the head of Transportation Alternatives, doesn't have an anti-car bias especially since many of his last statements hints that he does. Until then, my statement towards him hold by default. As for community boards, they aren't elected, they are appointed, so their decision to place the bike lane might have been elitist as well.
May 27, 2017, 7:17 pm
Matt from Greenpoint says:
Just keep reducing the parking until the middle class is gone.

Then your Uber biker can pick you up to take you to the airport, in December.
May 27, 2017, 8:56 pm
Joe from Greenpoint says:
Brooklyn - Where trust funds go to die - hahahahaha

Bye, Peter!
May 27, 2017, 9:03 pm
Joe from Greenpoint says:
"Passenger cars are not vital to our (NYC's) economy, but trucks are."

LOL

Who do think owns the passenger cars?!
Why can't you bike idiots get the bigger picture!?
May 27, 2017, 9:06 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
My fat fingers smell like my mother's cunny.
May 31, 2017, 2:20 pm
samir kabir from downtown says:
Until they start obeying traffic laws, I hope all their tires burst.
June 6, 2017, 8:02 am

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