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City officials must reconsider their plan to build a bike lane along the Southern Brooklyn coast, according to Bensonhurst civic gurus, who called the city’s current proposal unsafe because it lacks proper protection for cyclists on car-heavy roads. (“Bensonhurst civic leaders push DOT to reconsider bike lane plan” by Aidan Graham, online May 17).

The Department of Transportation unveiled its proposal, calling for a one-and-a-half mile bikeable route along Shore Parkway, at an April 24 Community Board 11 meeting.

The planned route would run from Bay Parkway to Bay 53rd Street, connecting existing lanes on either side to create a continuous bikeable path from Bay Ridge to the Coney Island peninsula. The largest section of the department’s plan calls for a two-way protected bike lane on Shore Parkway, on the side of the road closest to the water.

Ahead of the unanimous rebuff of the proposal on May 9, the board’s Transportation Committee chair blasted department reps for valuing expediency rather than safety.

Readers debated the topic online:

More bike paths are not the answer. Safer riding is. Bicyclists need tough love and not pandering, otherwise the fatalities will increase.James Maggio from Marine Park

More bike lanes are great, but more enforcement against self-entitled motorists is key. Too many reckless drivers on the road. Massive fines, then jail should do the trick.Henry Ford from Bay Ridge

Henry Ford, I will support that if the same will apply to cyclists who tend to flout the traffic laws, which they do very constantly.

Tal Barzilai

from Pleasantville, NY

The NYPD already cracks down on cyclists, even after one is killed by a motorist. So glad to hear you’re on board!Henry Ford from Bay Ridge

I’m glad that DOT is increasingly going ahead with safety projects over the objections of community boards.

Mike from Williamsburg says:

It looks like Bensonhurst might have its first meaningful improvement. I’m not holding my breath that the times are changing, or that the Community Board 11 suddenly changed its thinking and take safety of the residents in consideration.

It seems more of a response to morbid statistics coming from South Brooklyn at large, and gentrification of Bay Ridge, than planned infrastructure improvement for Bensonhurst. Still, we’ll take even those scraps as a sign that not all our taxes are syphoned out to neighborhoods with louder voices.Peter from Dyker Hights

Bikes are unsafe in the streets. That’s it. They shouldn’t be there. Ten bike deaths in 4.5 months. And if the government is going to continue to allow it, bikes at least need to be registered with plates to hold them accountable for the law that none obey today. They are a menace.Bikes Unsafe in the Streets from Brooklyn

Hey, bikes unsafe, get a life. It’s not the bikes that are unsafe, it is the drivers who think they own the road. What ever happened to the 25 MPH speed limit?

I am a driver and bike rider for over 50 years and I think BOTH have a right to share the streets!!!Jeff from Brooklyn

Fur-free NYC

To the Editor,

There is no room for an industry which causes innocent animals to be drowned, electrocuted, stomped on, painfully trapped, and skinned alive in a civilized society in the year 2019. Just because this has been happening for hundreds of years doesn’t make it right (“Op-ed: Banning fur is bad for New York” by Karen Giberson, Mill–Marine Courier, May 17–23). There is no such thing as ethical fur. No sentient being wants to die, and there is no humane way to get fur from an animal. It is their fur, not ours. How would anyone in the fur industry like it if this was done to their dog or cat? All animals feel pain, just as we do.

I applaud Corey Johnson, and those cosponsors of HR 1476, for being on the right side of history. The progressive city of New York will now be seen as a compassionate one, along with San Francisco and Los Angeles, once the Fur Ban is passed. There are plenty of alternatives, and many designers — including Gucci and Burberry — have ditched fur already. Fur is not a fabric! Join us in our chants “No blood for vanity,” and Fur trade=Death trade, as we set foot into a fur-free NYC!

Rochelle Goldman

Brighton Beach

Cuomo’s magic

To the Editor,

Our newly minted civil engineer, Govern-mayor Cuomo, is now pushing for the swift completion of the Kosciusko Bridge. (“Second span to open in September” by Mark Hallum, Mill–Marine Courier, May 10–16).

It seems when he flexes his expansive inexperience in both civil and electrical engineering, things go expensively wrong.

A year ago he pushed for the opening of the Tappan-Zee Bridge. That led to a beautiful opening day and subsequently, months of additional and costly work to fix and make safe the work that was rushed.

Then came his meddling with the MTA and the Second Avenue “Stubway.” Here, too, work was pushed along to meet his imposed opening day. To accomplish this feat, he ordered regular transit workers away from much-needed inspections and repairs. Today, there is an investigation underway as to why overtime costs went through the roof. I guess people forgot his edict to transit after all too many delays and problems, to fix it at all costs.

Anytime our illustrious leader thinks of himself, a Trump, a proven builder, able to build anything, watch out!Robert W. Lobenstein

Sheepshead Bay

Jailhouse knocked

To the Editor,

I do not agree with our mayor’s plan to enlarge jails, although I do agree that the jail on Rikers Island should be closed. However, what our city really needs is not more, nor bigger, jails, but more crime prevention programs. Instead of spending more money on keeping offenders locked up, the money should be spent on improved schools, social services, vocational training programs, and rehabilitation programs and facilities.

I am horrified whenever I see a news story about a child who has been abused or murdered by his parents. Many of these families have been known to social services, but overworked caseworkers have done nothing. The last death that occurred a week or two ago was of a young boy who had been removed from his home because of abuse and later returned to his parents, only to be beaten to death. The parents will spend many years in jail and their other children may have psychological problems that will could cause them to become criminals or addicts because of the trauma they have endured. Increased funding would enable the city to hire more social workers, give them smaller caseloads, and improve their training before more children die.

I also believe that with better social and psychiatric services, as well as improved educational programs in the schools, both public and private, many troubled children who would otherwise end up in prison can be helped to lead healthy, useful lives rather than ending up in gangs or on drugs.

There is also a need for more and better rehabilitation centers for drug addicts rather than just throwing them in jail when their addictions get them into trouble.

Many prisoners in Rikers and other prisons are there awaiting trial, which means they have not yet been proven guilty of a crime. I think that people who have committed minor crimes and can’t afford bail should be given the option of doing community service or going into rehabilitation programs instead of being stuck in jail until their trials. No one, unless he or she is a danger to the community, should spend months in jail without a trial.

I strongly believe that if every potential criminal, whether adult or child, is given the help he or she needs before he or she ends up in jail, there will be no need for more or larger jails. Elaine Kirsch

Gravesend

Posted 12:00 am, May 25, 2019
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Reasonable discourse

Henry Ford from Bay Ridge says:
There are two sides to this debate. On one side you have overweight boomers who drive everywhere and think the world should cater to them. The other side are physically fit, young, and make a smaller carbon footprint. In the end, it's survival of the fittest.
May 25, 8:25 am
The Real Henry Ford from Bellevue Psych Ward says:
^^^racist idiot^^^
May 25, 9:12 am
The Hunkster from Bed-Stuy says:
It's#CuomosMTA in a nutshell of course.
May 25, 9:23 am
Henry Ford from Bay Ridge says:
Guess which camp "The Real Henry Ford from Bellevue Psych Ward" is in. Hint: the fat camp.
May 25, 9:36 am
Bob from Gerritsen Beach says:
With bicycles opposing drivers it always comes down to one little detail. 4000 pound vehicle and a 200 pound bicycle and rider. Who needs to act like an adult?
May 25, 11:15 am
Henry Ford from Bay Ridge says:
Bob from Gerritsen Beach is absolutely right! The responsibility is on the motorist, since they cause more damage. The motorist is supposed to yield to cyclists and pedestrians already, by law.
May 25, 11:18 am
Born in Bklyn from Brooklyn / Manhattan says:
The NYPD needs to crack down on cyclists running Red lights and those riding into oncoming traffic. As they're a menace to pedestrians and drivers. If you share the road, road rules apply. They also need to wear helmets. Most casual cyclers don't, especially the citibike kind. Delivery personnel wear helmets and highly visible safety vests. Why not the same for every cyclist? If not the vests then the bikes should have blinking lights at night.
May 25, 3:21 pm
Henry Ford from Bay Ridge says:
Born in Bklyn must not be aware that helmets are only mandatory for children 12 and under. Adults are not required to wear helmets by law. I always wear a helmet when cycling. You never know when some idiot driving a giant SUV will sideswipe you because they were too self entitled to use caution while passing. Oddly enough, I always end up next to them at the next light. That's gotta sting their manhood.
May 25, 6:06 pm
Henry Ford from Bay Ridge says:
Born in Bklyn must not be aware that helmets are only mandatory for children 12 and under. Adults are not required to wear helmets by law. I always wear a helmet when cycling. You never know when some idiot driving a giant SUV will sideswipe you because they were too self entitled to use caution while passing. Oddly enough, I always end up next to them at the next light. That's gotta sting their manhood.
May 25, 6:06 pm
Born in Bklyn from Brooklyn / Manhattan says:
Yep, I'm aware. It should become a law. That was what my post was inferring. Just the act of wearing a helmet will save lives. Cyclists will be more aware of safety and it could save a life in case there is an accident. No cons to making it a law. Citibike might not like it. Neither would many bikers but it's needed. Don't want to carry a helmet around? Have helmet liners and a helmet available with each bike. A cyclist mashed into a friend who was biking up by the west side hwy path. Took the wind right out of him. Lucky it didn't end up worse.
May 25, 10:17 pm
Born in Bklyn from Brooklyn / Manhattan says:
I commute about a 100 miles or more a week. Using various forms of transit. I've seen more people on bikes run red lights and cut off pedestrians than cars do. That's a lot, considering there are lots more cars. The Chinatown/ LES neighborhood and DT Bklyn having some of the worst offenders. Yes, an accident with a bike is less likely to be as fatal but if a car has to avoid a cyclist and thusly slams into a poor pedestrian... who needs that. NYPD is doing a good job and should do more.
May 25, 10:26 pm
Born in Bklyn from Brooklyn / Manhattan says:
@Henry, since we all know how you hate drivers... Many drivers don't signal and double park at the end or beginning of a block. Still, two wrongs don't make a right.
May 25, 10:29 pm
Henry Ford from Bay Ridge says:
Born in Bklyn, Anecdotes are not data. There are scientific studies that show a motorist is more likely to drive safer when a cyclist is not wearing a helmet. I still prefer to wear a helmet. "if a car has to avoid a cyclist and thusly slams into a poor pedestrian" -Has this ever actually happened? If so, please provide a link. I don't hate drivers, just the self entitled ones, same with cyclists who salmon and wear headphones.
May 26, 7:10 am
Tyler from pps says:
Born in Bklyn - "NYPD is doing a good job" Are they? Really? Look at the injury and deaths caused DAILY by motorists in this city. The published statistics, by the NYPD. They are TERRIBLE. And compare those to the published statistics of traffic violations issued. They are not doing a good job. They do little public shows, like the 'blitzes' for cyclists with no bells or riding through lights at non-intersections. But where is the speeding enforcement for the 2-ton vehicles that kill? The double-parking enforcement for the dangerous bottlenecks? The crosswalk enforcement? Heck, the NYPD are often some of the worst offenders -- no turn signals, no lights at dusk, rampant non-emergency red light running, blocking bike lanes, etc etc.
May 26, 12:26 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-letter-may-26-20190526-pnzyghibrbfhfg562ytk2frgvy-story.html Hazardous streets Manhattan: I agree with Voicer Diane Pagan. Bicyclists are a hazard. My husband and I worry about bikers knocking us over. They are all over the city, and they do not observe traffic rules. Bikers are more and more dangerous than ever, and now that the weather is getting nicer, they are out more often. Perhaps bikers can ride on a bike path in Central Park where there are no pedestrians. The city needs to do something to help keep pedestrians safe and bikers happy so that they continue biking. I hope that all New Yorkers are safe this spring and summer season. Amy Rosenfeld
May 26, 4:15 pm
Henry Ford from Bay Ridge says:
𝕿𝖆𝖑, 𝖜𝖍𝖆𝖙'𝖘 𝖞𝖔𝖚𝖗 𝖕𝖔𝖎𝖓𝖙? It's an opinion piece.
May 27, 7:21 am
Henry Ford from Bay Ridge says:
🅵🅸🅵🆈:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::https://www.ANECDOTES.com/opinion/ny-letter-may-26-20190526-pnzyghibrbfhfg562ytk2frgvy-story.html Hazardous streets Manhattan: I agree with Voicer Diane Pagan. Motorists are a hazard. My husband and I worry about SUVs knocking us over. They are all over the city, and they do not observe traffic rules. Drivers are more and more dangerous than ever, and now that the weather is getting nicer, they are out more often. Perhaps drivers can drive on a road in Central Park where there are no pedestrians. The city needs to do something to help keep pedestrians and cyclists safe and drivers happy so that they continue driving. I hope that all New Yorkers are safe this spring and summer season. Amy Rosenfeld
May 27, 8:20 am
Rufus Leaking from BH says:
What day this year is Bicycle Rule Enforcement day?
May 27, 10:26 am
Henry Ford from Bay Ridge says:
Every day is Bicycle Rule Enforcement day. What day this year is 𝗠𝗼𝘁𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁 𝗙𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗟𝗮𝘄 𝗗𝗮𝘆?
May 27, 11:03 am
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Henry, I didn't write that letter on the Daily News, someone else did. In other words, if you don't like it, then write to the Daily News yourself about it, but don't take it out on me. Getting back to the subject, I don't see what you don't like about those who express their claim about almost getting hit by cyclists who don't follow the rules or even just asking for better enforcement on them. There is already a lot of enforcement on those who drive which your group always demands yet cries foul whenever you're asked to follow the rules yourselves. BTW, I do agree with what Bon in Brooklyn had to say about cyclists, because he or she is right about that. Asking for them to follow the rules isn't a call to get them off the roads, just to behave better. Then again, you tend to miss the point just as much of you rouge cyclists are missing the traffic lights and signs. More importantly, knock it off with the personal attacks, but I guess that's the bike zealots for you.
May 27, 1:59 pm
Henry Ford from Bay Ridge says:
Tal, there is so much garbage in your post that it's not worth my time to correct it. However, I will tell you that you're an idiot because you don't know that rouge is a red powder or cream used as a cosmetic for coloring the cheeks or lips.
May 27, 4:55 pm

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