Today’s news:

‘What kind of America’? Hate-filled rally to stop mosque

The Brooklyn Paper

If they build it, they will bomb.

Angry Sheepshead Bay residents came out in a show of force on Sunday to protest a planned mosque and Muslim community center in their neighborhood.

“If they build a mosque there, I’m going to bomb the mosque,” said one outraged resident who lives across the street from the proposed house of worship between East 28th and East 29th streets on Voorhies Avenue. The resident, who refused to give his name, identified himself as a former Israeli soldier who had lived on Voorhies Avenue for eight years.

“I will give them a lot of trouble,” he added. “They’re not going to stay here alive.”

Such comments were certainly the most violent, though intolerance was common at the rally, which was organized by the group Bay People. Political correctness was shoved aside as members of the group put out its agenda: We don’t want a mosque here.

There was plenty of lip service paid to concerns about added traffic and noise, with rally organizers saying that they were not “anti-Arab or anti-Muslim,” but the stench of hate filled the air, sometimes with subtle language.

“We cannot tolerate foreign interests coming into our backyard telling us what we are going to do,” said speaker Bob Giovinazzi. “It’s hot today, but things are going to get a lot hotter for people in this illegal structure.”

One of the organizers claimed that the mosque protest was simply about “this specific location and a specific organization [and its] impact on our quality of life.” The organizer, who only gave his surname, Kleinman, added, “We are not against our Muslim neighbors. This is a residential community and we want to preserve it regardless of race and religion.”

But other organizers claimed that the mosque’s builders, the Muslim American Society, has ties to Hamas and Hezbollah. Though few actual links were revealed at the rally, that didn’t stop the venom.

“New York is not Islamabad,” screamed one protestor. Diana, a nurse who refused to give her full name, told those in attendence, “Do not forget 9-11!”

Voorhies Avenue resident Victor Benari further whipped up the audience by adding, “Each Muslim terrorist is tied to a mosque.”

He also took pot shots at Ahmed Allowey, the longtime Sheepshead Bay resident who is bringing the mosque to Voorhies Avenue, along with local politicians who have remained mum on this divisive issue.

None were present to defend themselves, although Benari’s diatribe infuriated local resident Guseyn Ibragimov.

“What right do you have to deny people a place of worship?” asked Ibragimov, whose father is a Muslim. His mother is half-Jewish, half-Christian. “No one protests a church or a synagogue being built in a Muslim neighborhood.”

Rally attendees booed Ibragimov down, ordering him to get off their street.

“This isn’t right, they’re just showing their hate,” Ibragimov said as he stormed off. “They call themselves Americans, but what kind of America is this?”

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Richard Grayson from Williamsburg says:
These people need to move to Arizona, where they can hate to their heart's content.
June 28, 2010, 11:35 am
Dave from Clinton Hill says:
What a bunch of ignorant idiots, all of their names are "foreign" as well just from an earlier generation than this one.
June 28, 2010, 11:50 am
JJ from Flatbush says:
I've read Tom Tracy's stuff for years in Courier-Life before the Brooklyn Paper took it over. For sure, he knows better.

Brooklyn is an ethnic mix that has always had tensions. This may be ugly (and, considering 911 and how multiple terrorists WERE ACTUALLY LINKED to Brooklyn mosques on Atlantic Avenue and in Kensington, not entirely illogical), but it's not a uniquely anti-Muselim phenomenon.

In Flatbush, where black-coated, black-hatted Jews invaded streets occupied by more open-minded liberal Jews, there was quite a lot of antagonism expressed when the black hats began turning every other crummy little house into a synagogue, and every lush front lawn into a paved parkway for their SUVs.
June 28, 2010, 11:52 am
john anders from brooklyn says:
Unfortunately, this is a very one-sided argument presented in the above article. Supporters of the mosque are using a race card to get public sympathy. The fact is that vast majority of local residents don't want increased traffic, noise etc.. on this small street in Sheepshead Bay. They paid a premium to live in a quite residential neighborhood, which would be no more if mosque building plans (or any other public community center) come to fruition.
June 28, 2010, 1:35 pm
anti-Tracy from SHB says:
Shame on you Thomas Tracy! There were around 300 people at the demonstration, and this so called "journalist" decides to take a few people out of this crowd to get his agenda across! Did he really expect someone to prove MAS links to terrorism at this demonstration? Why don't you go and google Muslim American Society, or look up Youtube video of Mahdi Bray, one of the leaders of MAS saluting Hamas and Hezbollah? Why don't you look into MAS selling books by Anwar Al-Awlaki at their December convention? This is the same Imam who put a terrorist on the plane that same month of December. Who paid for the ticket? Not the money collected my MAS for selling his books? This is not journalism!!! Do people living in Sheepshead Bay have legitimate concerns? Of course they do! Any of you, readers of this shameful article, imagine a House of Worship with hundreds of people coming and going each and every day just feet from your windows! Yes, people don't want a Mosque, but they wouldn't want a synagogue or a church! Are you really that ignorant Mr. Tracy? Or is someone paying you to twist this story and portray hundreds of people who came out on a hot Sunday afternoon as bigots and islamophobes? Educate yourself Mr. Tracy, you might be good enough for BayNews in a couple of years! What a shameful farce!
June 28, 2010, 2:42 pm
Carol Ziegler from Brooklyn Heights says:
I sincerely hope that the objections to the mosque are practical not hate driven. This is Brooklyn, NY. If you are lucky enough to live in Brooklyn and can't handle diversity of every and all kinds, you should consider relocating.
June 28, 2010, 2:56 pm
Geoffrey from Windsor Terrace says:
Sadly, I'm not in the least bit surprised. I'm of the school of thought that part of our human condition (human nature?) is a strong tendency to not only gravitate to the familiar, but to be suspicious of and strike out defensively against others who are different. Add political, religious, cultural and ethnic differences and conflicts to the fray, people can and too often do react in hateful and violent ways. It takes a big personal commitment to acknowledge ones racist beliefs (we all have them, they're just directed at different people)and an even bigger commitment to not act on them. But not to despair, we are still evolving.
June 28, 2010, 3:17 pm
Mark from Brooklyn says:
There is very strong opposition to having this Mosque built in the area - small street next to a public school. The developer needs to reconsider his options of building elsewhere.
June 28, 2010, 3:44 pm
chemical ali from mecca says:
Just wait until we stoning your daughters for their immodest dress, and killing their teachers!! It's gonna happen soon, you stupid infidels.
June 28, 2010, 4:17 pm
Tommi from Finland says:
Nice to see that you Americans fight against islamization. Europe goes very different way.
June 28, 2010, 4:28 pm
Dave from Brooklyn says:
Shame on you Mr. Tracy. If there is a paid for article - we just read it. Paid by whom? M.A.S.? HAMAS? Or just ACLU? Community simply does not want a mosque there. Yes. At least in some places we see a real community with common goals. And they support each other. And they have every right to protect their quality of life.
Bad journalism Mr. Tracy.
June 28, 2010, 4:35 pm
tony from sheepshead bay says:
I welcome the muslims good honest working people its better then trash moving in that might bring in drugs around our kids we already have st marks a few blocks away so another house of worship is welcome .
June 28, 2010, 4:47 pm
Asif from Ontario says:
Way to go Mr Tracy. Keep up the good work and exposing the hate elements in American society. America is a land where different cultures and different ethenicities have attained their culminating points. We are not gonna let America hijacked by some hate mongers - be it mozlims or Jews or any other religions. Mosque is there to stay and it is a great step towards bridging gaps between different faiths.

God Bless!
June 28, 2010, 4:47 pm
John from Newyork says:
Way to go Mr Tracy. Keep up the good work and exposing the hate elements in American society. America is a land where different cultures and different ethenicities have attained their culminating points. We are not gonna let America hijacked by some hate mongers - be it mozlims or Jews or any other religions. Mosque is there to stay and it is a great step towards bridging gaps between different faiths.

God Bless!
June 28, 2010, 4:48 pm
carl from Brooklyn Heights says:
So is it "John" or "Asif"?

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Anything associated with the "Muslim American Society" is highly suspect whose members hold a perverted, fascist ideology that is too dangerous to allow into the American fabric.

MAS is a terrorist supporting front group for the Muslim Brotherhood here in the USA, and they "deserve" nothing but America's contempt.
June 28, 2010, 5:16 pm
Frank from Brooklyn says:
Wherever Muslims appear, trouble soon follows. This is a direct result of Islam's propagation by the sword. Freedom of conscious is unknown in Islam. The writer of this story is apparently disappointed that this neighborhood has done its homework and learned about the true nature of Islam and Muslims. Good for them.
Islam should be Waslam.
June 28, 2010, 5:52 pm
Cynthia from Elk Grove, California says:
Shame on you Carl from Brooklyn Heights. MAS is not a terrorist supporting group. Just like the YMCA holds activities and sponsors young Christians so does MAS. What evidence do you have to support your allegations?
As for the Journalist Mr. Tracy, what ever happened to freedom of speech? Everyone has an opinion and in America thank GOD we have the freedom to report it.
June 28, 2010, 6:01 pm
TR from Metro Detroit area, MI says:
to "john anders" comment above:

How can you claim that people are just 'playing the race card'? Violent language, bombing threat, and death treats were made. People taking those threats seriously, is somehow 'playing the race card'? From the looks of your post, it seems that you are one who would like to justify violence and threats. For shame. What a shame.
June 28, 2010, 6:14 pm
Mariyah from Arizona says:
Funny I am a scarf wearing muslimah in Arizona and they treat us with more respect here than these street people in New York are treating the builders of Mosques. Arizonans for the most part are awesome and more laid back. Seems the bandleader for the hate group is an Israeli? Seems I would worry more about them building more settlements in New York and taking your city the way they wrenched Jerusalem from the Palestinians who had inhabited Jersalem for 2000 years. And the Palestinians I am talking about are Christian and Muslim. That is why 80 % of the Arab Americans are Christians. The Zionists chased them here! Who SHOULD you fear?
June 28, 2010, 6:16 pm
Jay from Brooklyn says:
Like srsly why do people care about the mosque being build? They just want to build place of worship and its none of our business. These idiots are just making us look dumb. This america not iran dammit we accept any religon or race to live here and open stores. That former israeli soldier is just bitter and racist straight. If he doesnt like maybe he should go back to israel and enjoy racism over there. Srsly this guy is a tool and everyone at the rally are idiots..
June 28, 2010, 6:38 pm
Hi im carl the idiot from Heights says:
Carl is racist douchebag who likes to hide behind a computer —— ass ——
June 28, 2010, 6:47 pm
john anders from brooklyn says:
to "TR" comment:

If there have been threats made, I agree that's uncalled for, however I haven't seen any. Additionally, I often deal with people who oppose this construction and I guarantee that they would not be making such threats, which makes me believe these threats are fabricated.

Speaking of threats... I did see one actually right here above from "chemical ali." From this blog alone, I'm starting to wonder whether an element of religious based opposition to the mosque may not be entirely unfounded.
June 28, 2010, 6:54 pm
Al from Sheepshead Bay says:
Those jerks on Voorhies ave deserve what they get. When they saw the first Mujahadeen family move into the neighborhood, they should have banded together and bought other property that was up for sale. Now the Jihadists are going to run their neighborhood. Soon, when they hear the bells of St.Marks ringing on Sunday, the Al-Qaedaniks, will complain to the council board that the bells insult Moslem sensibilities.
June 28, 2010, 6:58 pm
Billy from Sheephead Bay says:
Wow. Thanks for supporting your community -- not. I remember when the Bay News was our neighborhood's newspaper. Now it's "Your Neighborhood, Someone Else's News."

What a crock.

Not everyone here is a racist. We don't want the traffic and we don't want the terrorists.
June 28, 2010, 7:04 pm
mandinka from Bogotá says:
This isn't the 1st time this has happened. The freedom riders were turned down from building monuments at the burned churches in the south saying it would be racist.
June 28, 2010, 7:06 pm
Al from Sheepshead Bay says:
This is to Mariyah in Arizona, I am a Christian, Roman Catholic. The Christians in Palestine where run out of the Holy land by Islamic Fashists like yourself, not by the Jews. I know your story, honey. There is no room for Moslems in this country. Al-Qaeda, is not finished with us in America. The next hit will be bigger then 9/11. When that happens, and it will, Christians, Hindus, Jews, Sihks, etc. will be coming for every Moslem in this country to settle scores.
June 28, 2010, 7:13 pm
no- racsim any more from sheepshead Bay says:
Muslims are the people who are among us, and live with us, Professionals, tax payers, nothing to do with terrorist, if so, they are in jail already,, come on bigots, stop it,.

By the way, I was there and most of this group are Russians, and claim to be Jews just to collect checks, and welfare,, I m positive and sure,
I am sick of them opposing a place of worship like others,

Thanks to the author for the great brave and honest , Americanized story, and sorry for the bigots, racist and people of hate.

Welcome Muslims among us,,, .

God Bless America
June 28, 2010, 7:27 pm
Biso from NJ says:
This is to AL in SheepsHead I think you should fix your brain with some real History lessons. It seems your do not even have Kindergarden level of Islamic History.
June 28, 2010, 7:32 pm
Eugene from Sheepshead bay says:
i was at the rally, there were about 400 people. it is not right to take one idiot who is a racist and comment him. espetially not even mentioning his name, we dont know if this person was even there, or Thomas Tracy just did not fill to go over the boring problems that were disscussed. obviously blowing somehting up, sounds like more fun.
June 28, 2010, 7:38 pm
Sofian Abdelaziz Zakkout says:
We need to support this Islamic Center and ignore those bigots who got the same mentality of the terrorists who did break the American Unity!
Br. Sofian Abdelaziz Zakkout
www.amanavoice.com
June 28, 2010, 7:43 pm
Eugene from Sheepshead bay says:
to no-racsim, whatever it means. isn't it a rasism to say that "By the way, I was there and most of this group are Russians, and claim to be Jews just to collect checks, and welfare,, I m positive and sure"
very smart man,
(for whatever reason he does not mention his name ether)
June 28, 2010, 7:43 pm
muslim from sheepshead bay says:
Building is approved "as of right" no variance requested. and all issues are with code, zoning and regulations,

This guy is a bigot ( full of hate, and trouble maker) , and a person who wants us, and others to be involve in a big problem. He is one of the islamphopes who are using the communities to fulfill his/their agendas, that will get the whole society in a big mess. Not acceptable and does not make any sense, to segregate and then rally for that.. interesting, we are Muslims, do not accept such statements and such action as a whole. ..
June 28, 2010, 7:51 pm
to Eugene from sheepshead bay says:
well, his name is already at the hands of the officials and not Mr. Tracy is the only one who heard him, By the way he is one of the Group members, and founders.. , Bay People. good luck.. lol

Your are saying 400 ,, come on,, see the photos, and most of them even against the whole idea,, You done know nothing, Americans are not fooled by such lies,
June 28, 2010, 7:55 pm
Dhimmi Yahud from Sheepsheadbay says:
The problem is the law that sees Wahabbi Islam as religion. It is not, it is un-American and ant0liberal, anti-Western fashist ideology with adream of Islamazation of Western Europe (almost done!0 and America (getting close). Yes, we don't want the den of anti-Western ideology and anti- American propaganda in our neighborhood. Until I see liberal American version of Islam, I hold these people in contempt and find them incapable of assimilation and respect for JUDEO-CHRISTIAN America. The leftist PC moron from Courier will win, I fear when they come to behead him. Yes, fewer Islamic hate cewnters -better for us.
June 28, 2010, 8:07 pm
eugene from sheepshead bay says:
to all of my muslim friends who are writing here and for some reason not mentioning their names., i was there. the picture that you see does not show the rally it shows few people on their porch who live across the street. about 400 signatures if not more were collected at the rally. they stoped it in staten island, we will stop in here.
June 28, 2010, 8:12 pm
to Dhimmi from Sheepshead Bay says:
You still behind,,,

Islam Is not a religion,
what you categorized 2 Billions around the world?????????..

Interesting to find people of such thinking !!!!!!! ,,,,
Loooooooooooooool

Where did you get this information from,, My friend Go and Correct your Thoughts,

And then
June 28, 2010, 8:14 pm
eugene from sheepshead bay says:
and the guys name who were saying something about blowing up, should not be in hads of officials it should be in hands of doctors.
June 28, 2010, 8:20 pm
to eugene .from Muslim. Ali from Sheepshead Bay says:
SO you are saying in Staten Island and Sheepshead Bay People are the same who are opposing the Mosque,,,,

In another Words, these people signed in Staten Island and come to Sheepshead Bay to Sign again,,

So the Person who said that(“If they build a mosque there, I’m going to bomb the mosque,”
is from Staten Island?

and,
How did they get to Sheepshead Bay? By Bus or train,,??

Are they the people who opposed a mosque in Boston and Failed due to their ignorance and hatred..??

I suggest to know about them here at this site

http://getrealanswers.org/


and then I advise you and others,, not to be their tool to play with you they way they want,, and mess up this great nation,,
June 28, 2010, 8:23 pm
Jim from Chi-town says:
This is all ignorance. Agreed that there are acts of violence portrayed by some Muslims, again I used the word some. But Islam is not the only religion whose followers abuse it to justify violence. Zionists, Jihadists, and the KKK all claim to do what is right in the Eyes of God.
The Muslims in this country came for freedom, they had to flee the dictators that were put in power by Western Europe and supported by America. Those that came to live here love it (and I am one of them).

Maybe if you knocked off Mubarak, Qadafi, The Saudi Royal Family, the Jordanian King, (and the list goes on), then then the Muslim world would see America as a true seeker of freedom and justice for all. This would look better than being a country that turns its face when the Saudi government executes innocent people, or Mubarak is riding on the cash while his people are living in cemeteries (literally), or King Abdallah of Jordan is screwing his people to the extent they can't afford bread, or Qadafi is executing anyone who is looking for reform.

Put the Israel and Palestinian issue aside, for if the Arabs truly cared this problem would not even exist. Therefore, all you have to do is not appease 1/5 of the world population, just stop supplying fuel to the fire.

Is that hard guys? Plus it would save us a crap-load of money.
June 28, 2010, 8:26 pm
Dhimmi from Sheepshead Bay says:
Most of 2 billion lack even elementary education, others are brainwashed by Saudi sponsored hate version of Islam. 2 billion need more of Ataturk and less of ignoranty mullahs who dream of World Islamic Khalifate. Read Koran about what they plan for children of pigs (Christians) and children of monkeys (Jews)...at best the status of second-class traditional "dhimmi". Look what they are doing to W. Europe who is becoming self-destruct by allowing Islam to remain separate and unassimiliated, or even into their counties. Yes, they are unwelcome by real Americans who are kept silent by useful idiots from the left and from the right. Its LOL, my friend when these houses of "worship" nurture terrorists, assasins (who kill journalists. It is this "religion" of 2 billion that has produced most terrorists and fewer scientists, artists, innovators. Yes, I don't want them in my country and I am not a racist. I am a realist liberal who wants this country to stay liberal and free of terror.
June 28, 2010, 8:29 pm
eugene from to Ali the Muslim says:
no, thats not what i said, is this cultural to take something and just turn it all around? what i said that residents of staten island stoped it, and residents of sheepshead bay will stop it too, as residents of 5 towns in long island did a year ago. center for 1,500 people does not belong on residential block. i wish you guys would come yerstyday for disscussion, for some reason none of you were there.
June 28, 2010, 8:30 pm
Dhimmi from Sheepshead Bay says:
Most of 2 billion lack even elementary education, others are brainwashed by Saudi sponsored schools of hate. 2 billion need more of Ataturk and less of ignorant mullahs who dream of World Islamic Khalifate. Read Koran about children of pigs (Christians) and children of monkeys (Jews)...with the status of second-class "dhimmi". Look what they are doing to Europe . Yes, they are unwelcome by real Americans who are kept silent by useful idiots from the left and from the right. Its LOL, my friend when these houses of "worship" nurture terrorists, assasins (who kill journalists. It is this "religion" of 2 billion that has produced most terrorists and fewer scientists, artists, innovators. Yes, I don't want them in my country and I am not a racist. I am a realist liberal who wants this country to stay liberal and free of terror.
June 28, 2010, 8:31 pm
Dhimmi from Sheepshead Bay says:
Most of 2 billion lack even elementary education, others are brainwashed by Saudi sponsored schools of hate. 2 billion need more of Ataturk and less of ignorant mullahs who dream of World Islamic Khalifate. Read Koran about children of pigs (Christians) and children of monkeys (Jews)...with the status of second-class "dhimmi". Look what they are doing to Europe. Its LOL, when these houses of "worship" nurture terrorists, assasins (who kill journalists in Europe). It is this "religion" of 2 billion that has produced jihadists and not scientists, artists, innovators. I don't want them in my country and I am not a racist. I am a realist liberal who wants this country to stay liberal and free of terror.
June 28, 2010, 8:32 pm
to Dimmi from sheepshead Bay says:
As long as they belong to a religion,,

I think if you check who invent first, you will notice Muslims did and followed by the west,

You still Behind believe me,,
Educate yourself more and then talk
June 28, 2010, 8:33 pm
James V from Tokyo says:
I think people are getting worked up over nothing. The only relevant issue is traffic (I hated Sundays when I lived on Bergen St. because early morning church service would be loud and inconsiderate, with lots of double parking). But unless there are some real numbers, that opposition is just based on opinion. As for not liking a mosque, personally I detest all religions (yes, yours too) and think that money would be better spent on a facility that helps the whole community and doesn't exclude the infidels or non-believers.
June 28, 2010, 8:36 pm
Dhimmi from Sheepsheadbay says:
Islam and liberal West do not mix..You hate us and you come here to turn us into Muslims or dhimmis. This is the bottom line. The rest is lies and propaganda
June 28, 2010, 8:37 pm
eugene from sheepshead bay says:
by the way, all the info about that rally,can be found on baypeople.org i think it makes sence to read it first before get into disscution.we are not against muslims, they free to build whatever they would like, as every other religion.
June 28, 2010, 8:41 pm
eugene from sheepsheadbay says:
i think that most of the wars start because of people like Thomas Tracy,who is bored in brooklyn paper with zoning issues and wants more action because he wants to write for new york times.
June 28, 2010, 8:48 pm
to James from Brooklyn says:
well, The community will be be benefited from this center,, as a place to send kids for after school programs, and sports activities.
It will be open to people not only Muslims,,
June 28, 2010, 8:54 pm
Eugen-- From Mohammed from SHeepshead BAy says:
Why some people do not like the truth??

Truth is what America is!!!

Why do some people hate to be exposed and not to be hypocrites

I just do not get it???

And it does not make any sense to come out and protest to segregate a certain group in this Society.. That time is over,, and bay People INC show be sued for that, and that is under construction ,,lol
June 28, 2010, 8:59 pm
eugene to Mohammed says:
great idea Mohammed, do you need a good attorney? lol, whatever it means ;)what is under constraction? the website? works from my computer.or the suing part? again have a good attorney can recomend, lol.
June 28, 2010, 9:08 pm
to Eugen from Brokly says:
As I heard, what I hear is true by the way...lol

It is based on Hate and racism,, go back and see what Bites published long ago,,, , all recorded,,
June 28, 2010, 9:17 pm
Muslim from Brooklyn says:
see the link

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20100628/pl_usnw/DC27874_1
June 28, 2010, 9:19 pm
Mike K from NY says:
I don't like racists in my neighborhood period, If you don't like this diversity here in America please relocate...
June 28, 2010, 9:34 pm
TO Mike.. From Ali from Sheepshead BAy says:
Thanks

Well reply,, and breif
June 28, 2010, 10:39 pm
Alexander from Sheepshead Bay says:
Yellow journalism at it finest....basing an entire sensational story on an unattributed quote. The author of this article did no research (like WSJ, Daily News and NY Post reporters did).

Why don't you do research on zoning issues, how many people will attend the center, where will they park, what will be the permissible dimensions, will any variances be required? NO you did not do that...that is BORING...so you just make up a quote

Journalists like you create tensions where there were none
June 28, 2010, 10:46 pm
to Alex from Sheepshead BAy says:
I think I looked zoing, Nothing wrong with it,,a nd nn varience was required...

And POST has the same story!!!!

Daily news Non.. and others are the same...
Alex tension is brought by Bay People and now they are in a big trouble ,,,
June 28, 2010, 10:54 pm
Brooklynesian from Midwood says:
Thanks for the great article Tom. It takes a certain amount of conviction and perseverance both in one's occupation as well as one's sense of right and wrong to write about something that you feel is against what our country stands for.

I really hope many of the paranoid and angry comments above (which seem pretty similar to the ones described in the article) don't derail you or anyone else from speaking his/her mind about something in our community that is wrong.
June 28, 2010, 11 pm
Bob from Brooklyn Heights says:
“If they build a mosque there, I’m going to bomb the mosque.”

It is not clear form Tom's story whether this statement was made in public, or privately to Tom.

Either way, hopefully the Brooklyn Paper will report tomorrow on the status of a police investigation, particularly since the person making this threat may be presumed (according to Tom's article) to have knowledge that would make it possible for him to carry it out.

If the comment was made privately to Tom, and Tom can identify this individual to police, I trust the cops will ask him to do so.

On the other hand, if Tom understood the comment to be nothing more than a blowhard's hyperbole, then playing it up the way he did is not exactly cricket to mosque opponents.
June 28, 2010, 11:15 pm
zip from Marine Park says:
Let's see....
A bunch of Middle Easterners show up in Sheepshead Bay. They eat funny food, keep to themselves, have too many babies, don't work, dress different, talk in a different language and they are a part of a religion that you are taught to despise. Oh, and for good measure they recently killed a Tsar, started WWI and created Communism.

Am I talking today? No - I am talking about 100 years ago when the Dutch and English descendents were forced out by the Jews streaming fron the LES and Europe. Those WASPS are now villified as their neighborhood was overrun by an immigrant wave.

Funny I bet that the same people who hate the mosques were also the ones who are descendents of people who were discriminated against century ago.

By birthrate alone (and a promise of welfare), Brooklyn is looking exactly like Israel. The Muslims and orthodox Jews (birthrates 8kids/woman, 8 KPW) are quickly displacing the Italians (2 KPW) and secular jews (2 KPW).

The Imam of the mosque in Manhattan said "don't be angry at them- their grandchildren will be Muslims".

Sheepshead bay is in for some interesting change. Funded by outsiders, the mosque will probably be "beautiful".

In the end, you had better learn Mandarin while you can. Try to get along- Novus Ordo Seclorum.
June 28, 2010, 11:17 pm
K says:
Great article...took courage to write this.
June 28, 2010, 11:40 pm
Zuleyha from Westchester County says:
Thank you, Thomas Tracy for this wonderful article! If not for you, we wouldn't have known...

How hateful could you possibly be to make a comment like this? “If they build a mosque there, I’m going to bomb the mosque." I don't want to assume that this former israeli solider is jewish... because, how could he be a jew and make such comments!? It was not too long ago that they lived through something very similar. i personally know holocaust survivors who explain the hate and discrimination they lived through. When you know it's so wrong to do, when you know it happened to your people, how could you do it to others? So sad.
June 28, 2010, 11:45 pm
Resident from Midwood says:
I am just curious... Thomas interview someone standing less than 20 feet from a police officer, this someone make these scary claims. Thomas, the "responsible citizen" does not grab the police officer and reports the person, but instead writes this article and quotes the anonymous resident. I'm against any kind of violence, and I would be very happy if this reporter would've reported to the police instead of reporting in the newspaper... Would've made a better story too: "Local reporter helps stop a major plot!"
Do you put journalism above being a citizen? Does one have an obligation to stop/report a crime? What if this crime does eventually happen, don't you become an accessory? Be a citizen first, and a journalist second. Don't be an observer when you can make a real difference!
June 28, 2010, 11:56 pm
to ... R.From Medwood from Br says:
Well,
Why we are questioning what have beensaid???

It does and was done right ,, It was done this way to show others what is the reaction of Muslims and Non-muslims..

Who is with or against???

I think instead of questioning, you should say wether:

"you are with or against"

< I like George W Bush.. !!!
June 29, 2010, 12:09 am
Rebekah says:
WOW, it is too true that if a resident of Arab Ethnicity or Muslim ties made a statement that they would "Bomd that Synagogue or Church" the police would be involved so I say aswell "What kind of America is this?"

Muslim or not every citizen within these borders has rights, building a Masjid is one of those rights! People need to learn Ignorance comes in many forms, not just in the Islamic Form!
June 29, 2010, 12:11 am
resident from Midwood says:
To: BR
I am not sure what your are saying... "With or against" what? I think I made it perfectly clear that I am against violence and find it repulsive that public safety would be put on hold for a juicy newspaper story!!! If Tom had a chance to stop a crime he should have. The police was there. According to Channel 11 News, NYPD and FBI are investigating now. I hope TT can provide enough information to get this person arrested, otherwise he is a co-conspirator in my eyes. We are talking about human beings here! A reported is not suppose to stop a lion killing a zebra, but has an obligation to stop human-on-human violence!!!!
June 29, 2010, 12:28 am
David from Manhattan says:
I wish we as Americans can get over this topic. People don't realize that it only takes us to distraction. I guess we are close to forget what America stands for. More then that people are forgetting GOD.
Let them build the mosque where ever they please. After all it is for the good of mankind. Another place where people can worship and remember GOD.
June 29, 2010, 2:24 am
UKPATROIT from UK says:
you guys realize that muslims do not want to integrate.

I tell you what, the minute that mosques is built you will see an influx of muslims in the area, the increase of social issues where muslim gangs will make certain places no go for non muslims.

Now ... i also want to ask the question ... would the muslims allow kufffir to use these facilities ? no doubt it ...

The koran is full of hate, it preaches about death to the non believers, they are homophobic, they follow the perfect man that married and had sex with a minor .. and as the perfect man has done this they think it is acceptable for them to do it ... lets not forget the rights of the woman ...female genetial mutilation... force sex .... do i need to go on

they use the race card, when it is them that are the fascist racist ...... stop the islamification of the USA ... stop it now or you'll have the same issues as Europe .. WAKE THE HELL UP AMERICA

ISLAM IS NOT A RACE, IT IS AN IDEOLOGY - IT IS A SICK BACKDATED CULT THAT HAS NO PLACE IN THE WESTERN WORLD .... not all muslims are terrorist, but the majority of terrorist are muslim
June 29, 2010, 6:58 am
Stan LS from Gravesend says:
Muslim American Society was created by the Muslim Brotherhood. The author of the article might want to do some research first before smearing the good people of sheepshead bay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_American_Society
June 29, 2010, 8:08 am
kammy from uk says:
UKPATRIOT you are misleading with your hate filled BNP agenda, its people like you that create hate and scaremongering get a life.

only a very tiiny minority of muslims maybe terrorists but majority are hard working, you are clearly misguided about islam, islam is a religion of peace unlike your hate filled BNP propaganda.
June 29, 2010, 8:10 am
Moshe Aron Kestenbaum from Williamsburg ODA says:
The problem with a mosque is that the Hasans and muhamads will suddenly decide to get serious about his faith and wind up doing jihadi on American soil. muslims have to renounce terrorisim.
June 29, 2010, 8:42 am
Yuri from Brighton Beach says:
I was standing nearby whne this guy was talking .HE DID NOT SAY THAT HE WILL BOMB all he said that this Mosque will one day be a big bomb, what he meant was that some suicide idiot will blow himself up inside
June 29, 2010, 8:47 am
Mickey from St John's Wood says:
I noticed kammy from uk, that you didn't dispute UKPatriots' statements about Islam also being homophobic and their (terrible) treatment of women as equals?

I'm a born and raised New Yorker that has been living in the UK for past 10 years and I would hate for Brooklyn to become what I've seen parts of the Britain is now.
June 29, 2010, 9:19 am
Rob from Greenpoint says:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Everyone please check out this website about how
Islam makes a difference in the world; one body at a
time....
June 29, 2010, 9:40 am
Amarra says:
There was plenty of lip service paid to concerns about added traffic and noise, with rally organizers saying that they were not “anti-Arab or anti-Muslim,” but the stench of hate filled the air, sometimes with subtle language.

Right.

Well, first off, besides this being an I hate Muslim people rally, this joke of Muslim's associated with being a terrorist is getting old. I don't understand the mystery behind every mosque being associated with bombings. Is every church associated with molestation of boys from priest? No, I don't think so. Since when is such prediction even allowed. Wow, these people know it all you know, they know who is gonna bomb when, that's really a specialzed talent.
June 29, 2010, 10:44 am
UKPATROIT from UK says:
@ kammy

a small minor fact may escape your narrow mind .... the UK is bigger than the British isle, you forget the other place.. northern ireland ...

now back to your point about the BNP they aren't a political party in my wee country which is very much a part of the UK. LOL humble pie anyone ...

and mickey makes an extremely valid point .... the silence is deafening ... so kammy you support homophobia ? i certainly dont .... do you support oppression of women ? I certainly dont ..... do you support the killing of non believers ? i certainly dont ....

so tell me who is the real fascist ? yes .. ISLAM and anti fascist UAF ...

Winston Churchill once say "The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists" .... you kammy are the fascist along with the Islamic fascist .. jog on ...
June 29, 2010, 10:52 am
English Defence League from UK says:
Wake up America, PLEASE.

Come over to the forum and chat, not BNP

June 29, 2010, 11:03 am
RGE from Nyc says:
Simpletons who spout that tired old cliche about Islam
being a "religion of peace" crack me up !!
Talk about useful idiots.....
June 29, 2010, 11:18 am
freedomofspeech from freedom says:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmpM-b-IsYY&feature=player_embedded

our forefathers fought the freedoms we hold so dear, the moslims want to deny us our freedoms ...
June 29, 2010, 11:31 am
wemic from Ontario says:
Try building a Catholic Church in Afghanistan or Iran and you'd likely get a similar reaction from residents.
June 29, 2010, 11:47 am
Jason from Memphis, TN says:
I would be very careful with the mosque construction. Islam often enters neighborhoods not to assimilate but to totally replace other ethnic groups. Pluralism is frowned upon in the Islamic faith (and much of Islamic culture today). There are some minority dominionist Christian groups with similar sentiments but it seems that in this point of history, this domination of Islam attitude is the dominant view in that culture.

I think that Ayaan Hirsi Ali (ex-Muslim) explains it best in her recent book "Nomad" in Parts II, III, and IV.
June 29, 2010, 12:07 pm
Jack from San Francisco says:
From the article : “We cannot tolerate foreign interests coming into our backyard telling us what we are going to do,” said speaker Bob Giovinazzi.
_________
Surely Protestant Anglo-Americans said the same thing about the first Giovanazzis to come to the US.

Different neighbors say that this is a quiet street, and that it is next to a public school. Well, which is it?

To wemic: There are Churches and Synagogues in Iran. The current government is very hostile to Baha'is, but quite accepting of Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians who make up fair minorities in that country.

And while the newspaper needn't identify the Israeli veteran with his terrorist threats of bombs and mayhem, I hope the local authorities have a keen eye on Mr. Ku Klux Klein. If a Muslim ever made such a blatant threat he would be (rightfully) hauled in and grilled, and the media would be all over it from coast to coast.

Then again, while threats from Muslims should be rarer, they are still far less common than threats made against Muslims. The latter are far too common to be considered as "news."

Sigh.... who are the terrorists?
June 29, 2010, 12:53 pm
NB from Sheepshead Bay says:
I really am so tired of the whole characterization of Muslims as an invading army, attempting to change America from within. People who say that - in the name of patriotism, no less - have so little faith in the power of American ideals, government and culture.

Maybe Muslims are coming, hoping to convert and overwhelm us with numbers. I say let them come. They won't be the first culture to try and do so. But in every instance in history where this was attempted it has failed, and instead America changed their children and their grandchildren, who in turn exported American ideals abroad. Our immigration policies and ability to assimilate other cultures is America's greatest strength, and will continue to change the world.

And if you point to Europe and the UK and say, "Look what Muslims have done to those countries," I say, "So what?" America is better than those countries, who are relatively new to this game of immigration and assimilation. I'm not worried that NYC will become London; we're just too good for that.

The US will survive Muslims, and our ideals will continue to survive, only so long as we remain tolerant and accepting enough to attract more immigrants, adopt them into American culture, and then let them become broadcasting channels for our ideals.

Anyone who says otherwise has no faith in the American system, flag-waving "patriots" included.
June 29, 2010, 1:24 pm
KEITH from UK says:
So how do muslims explain why their tolerant religion doesn't allow women and men to mix in prayers but have seperate areas.
Hey USA just look at what happened in Europe, they play the victim until they get the rules on planning permission changed then just watch how these Mosques sprout up everywhere and they become a magnet for even more Muslims.
June 29, 2010, 1:56 pm
kammy from UK says:
UK patriot, I understand what point you trying to make, but again you are misguided about Islam, Islam treates women equal to men, now just because some idiot will beat up his wife does that mean all muslims are the same, No I dont support killing of anyone no matter which religion they belong to, I have all kind of friends be it Black, white, jews, Hindus and so on.

UK patriot it seems to me you belong to the EDL or the BNP which are both extreme racist orgnisations.
June 29, 2010, 2:31 pm
keith from UK says:
kammy

So do they allow mixed prayers in your Mosque???????
A simple yes or no will do.
June 29, 2010, 3:15 pm
Rob from Greenpoint says:
Orthodox Jews also do not allow mixed prayer, correct?
June 29, 2010, 3:55 pm
Gary Johnson from Mount Rushmore says:
I was just a boy when the infidels came to my village in their Blackhawk helicopters. The infidels fired at the oil fields and they lit up like the eyes of Allah. Burning oil rained down from the sky and cooked everything it touched. I could only hide myself and cry as my goats were consumed by the fiery black liquid death. In the midst of the chaos, I could swear that I heard my goats screaming for help. As quickly as they had come, the infidels were gone. It was on that day I put a jihad on them. And if you don't believe it, then you'd better kill me now, because I'll put a jihad on you, too.
June 29, 2010, 3:59 pm
Fatima from Brooklyn says:
I am more and more disappointed with New York City. You'd think the most diverse city in America, the most diverse country in the world, would treat people with some respect. Where are the city's elected leaders? When will they step in and do more than just say, "this will not be tolerated" and "New York is a great city?"
June 29, 2010, 4:24 pm
trace from park slope says:
I can't think of a better place for a mosque. In the world.
June 29, 2010, 6:26 pm
Al from Sheepshead bay says:
To Keith and UK Patriot,

The great War is upon us and we don't have a Churchill, among us who can alert the planet to the evil forces of Islam, the way Churchill did calling out Hitler in the 1930's. Moslems, are vile, they are Satanic, they laugh at the burning of books, eventually they will be burning people.We need a George Keenan, who gave the West a Blue Print to combat Communism. It was called the Policy of Containment. We don't have anyone like that in Washington, London and certainly not Brussels. The West, is living in a Pacifists dream, Russia, is torn by corruption and dissention, China is isolated, remote,indifferent. The Anglo-American world is holding on with these Jihadists by a rotten thread. Will that thread break, I wonder.
June 29, 2010, 9 pm
Ziyad Olives from Seattle says:
Oh My God, How ignorant some American people are, I am afraid they are in large numbers. Example is the idiot called "Jon from Bay Ridge".

Danny said it best, grow up guys and stop reading (if you know how to read) and start thinking. These Muslims have the same rights as everybody else, whatever you read, listen or see in the American Media is nothing but defaming to all humans and it is a disservice to our intelligence.

I would love to send financial donations to help building a mosque in that area, it might do the local "protesters" some good in educating them some tolerance.
June 29, 2010, 9:21 pm
Mohammed from Park Slope says:
My Brothers and Sisters in faith.. I say to you who are disrespected here in the USA, let's depart to our Homeland where women have equal rights under the law, where we can freely express political opinions without feear of reprisal, where we can teach our young people the truth about our holy Mufti of Jerusalem and the Zionist aggressors. LET US GO BACK.. BACK TO GAZA ! ALLAH ACHBAR !!!!
June 29, 2010, 10:02 pm
Tom from Canada says:
If the former Israeli soldier had been a muslim and the proposed mosque, a synagogue, I can almost guarantee that he would be sitting in Rikers with the FBI climbing up every one of his orifices.
To the people that have called for tolerence, I applaud you. The fact is that globally, one in five people are muslims and if Islam was truly the religion of hate that some seem to think it is, the world would be a lot bloodier.
June 30, 2010, 4:17 am
J says:
If the mosque was build in the middle of a corn field middle of Penn by muslim american family born here 10 generations back it would be linked to terrorism heck if they blow there nose it would be linked to terrorism. This "linked to terrorism" is the same as "There goes the neighborhood." term for blacks for people who dont know that term its when you own a home in a wealthy or exclusive all-white neighborhood. The first black family ever to be seen in this area buys a home near you. You predict home prices will fall because of crime. You say, "There goes the neighborhood." its really getting old real fast Look we are here to stay look at the crime rates it lowerst in the muslim community we areyour doctors lawyers relaters gas station owner and cell phone shop owners we obay the laws we follow the rules we pay our taxes serve in your military( getting shot at so people in the states can have freedoms like RELIGION) dont like it tough get over it
June 30, 2010, 4:52 am
UKPATROIT from UK says:
@ kammy

Islam is not a race ...... define a specific race for a moslem, they come in all colors so it is not racist to be anti Islam

and if women are truly equal why are they not allowed to pray in the same room as a man ?

@ rob jews arent going around killing women 'honor killings' nor are they killing non believers, nor do they seek to impose their laws upon us, nor do they hang homosexuals ...

@ fatima saudi arabia is very diverse .. not ... theres even roads for moslims only .... no christian churches in mecca..... that sounds really diverse doesnt it ?

listen people, educate yourselves, read the koran for what it is... like for example

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)

or

"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)

what about

"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)

and

"Forbidden to you are...married women, except those you own as slaves." (Surah 4:20-, 24-)

peaceful, equality islam at its best.. and thats only a fraction of what it says ....
June 30, 2010, 5:20 am
JJ says:
Its funny how the guys that are creating hate for muslims today by creating hate groups getting on tv and acting like experts and pundits and writeing book and others like this guy who said "If they build a mosque there, I’m going to bomb it" that are using hate for one religion to make money political or nationalist reasons ie Pam Geller,Daniel Pipes , Debbie Schlussel ,Joe Kaufman , Bat Ye'or all belong to the same group of people that some people said same thing about 70 years ago and it lead to great tragedy . Great way to honor that event and your ancestors that died.......guess that event only matters when you need it for political needs
June 30, 2010, 5:25 am
JJ says:
WE CAN PLAY THE QUOTE GAME WITH ALL RELIGIONS BOOK HECK I CAN DO IT WITH HARRY POTTER
"Arthur Weasley loves Muggles so much he should snap his wand in half and go and join them. You'd never know the Weasleys were purebloods, the way they behave."
OHHHH LOOK HARRY POTTER IS RACEIST THEY ARE TEACHING KIDS TO HATE PEOPLE DIFFRENT THEN THEM THAT IS A BAD BOOK FOR KIDS
UNLESS YOU HAVE KNOWLAGE OF THE TIME PLACE CONTEXT OF THE TEXT YOU QUOTE AND REASON IT WAS SAID THEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND BEING IGNORANT AS THE RELIGOIUS NUTS THAT USE HOLY BOOKS MESS UP WHAT IS SAID FOR THERE OWN REASON...
AND 2 You SHOULD NOT TOUCH THE SUBJECT...
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Bible
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A child who hits or curses his parents must be executed. Exodus 21:15, 17
If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. Leviticus 20:13
Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
People with "familiar spirits" (witches, fortune tellers, etc.) are to be stoned to death. Leviticus 20:27
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JEWISH TALMUD
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If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there. (Moed Kattan 17a.)
[Gentiles] are outside the protection of the law and God has 'exposed their money to Israel.' (Baba Kamma 37b.)18
Jews may use lies ('subterfuges') to circumvent a [Gen
June 30, 2010, 5:30 am
AJ from California says:
When I lived in NYC (for a shor time) I HATED it, the place is a dumb, noisy, loud, too much cement and no trees. And the people are loud and rude.

So this does not surprise me. America is getting more stupid by the second and you wonder why the rest of the World hates us and think we are arrogant, ignorant and full of ourselves.
June 30, 2010, 5:52 am
AJ from California says:
When I lived in NYC (for a short time) I HATED it, the place is a dumb, noisy, loud, too much cement and no trees. And the people are loud and rude.

So this does not surprise me. America is getting more stupid by the second and you wonder why the rest of the World hates us and think we are arrogant, ignorant and full of ourselves.
June 30, 2010, 5:52 am
UKPATRIOT from UK says:
@ JJ

your ignorance is clear for all to see, why revert to childish things when this matter is about life and death ..

answer this simple question if you may

how many people have been killed as a result of jihad in the last 12 months ?

then consider this question

how many people have been killed as a result of the bible in the last 12 months ?

the major difference between the bible and the koran is that the bible is about events that have happened, the koran on the other hand is about what should be followed. Christianity left the dark ages and evolved, islam is still there and to change or modernise it would result in ones death ...

in fact ...

if you leave Christianity you'd be given a pat on the back and welcomed back anytime ... islam .. to leave = to die ... that is the punishment for Apostates

and still no one answers the simple question ..

why aren't women as equals not allowed to pray along side a man ?

or

why are homosexuals thrown off buildings or hung ?
June 30, 2010, 6:05 am
jj says:
That is the stupid argument in the world like asking how many people of Japan ancestry attacked pearl harbor no duh people of the muslim faith would be more likely to do terrorist attacks in the ME all most 80% of the ME is muslim.

killed as a result of jihad in the last 12 months ?
2-0 maybe anything going that happends in iraq/ afgan is due to the iraq/afgan war and the resistence to our invasion politics not religion if that was not true how many SSB happend 1998-1999-2000 in iraq and if you read the reason behind any of the other attacks out side of iraq/ afgan like the UK they said why they did because iraq/afgan war. Even if someone did it for Jahid what you will come back with which i 100% disagree with that is there own thing and has nothing to do with the religion every man woman and child is responsible for there own thinking and actions

how many people have been killed as a result of the bible in the last 12 months ?

See point 1 above?/ there is no muslim christian armys anymore fighting each or others other stopped with the crusades now its Nations that war over land economy and MONEY there are some people that are trying to made it into a religious war like Force Ministries and the people that put bible verses on militrary personal equipment

The bible has been around way b4 the koran you guys just had just got out dark ages compared to how long the bible has been around and you guys were useing the bible to justify slavery of a whole race just few years ago and just gave that race equal treatment few years back
June 30, 2010, 6:57 am
UKPATROIT from UK says:
legal stoning in islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwsAYCt0WRc&feature=player_embedded

converts leaving islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44dO9lWO830&feature=player_embedded

woman and islam

“right hand possession” is recognized and accepted in the Qur'an (4.3). Muslims are allowed and encouraged to raid non-Muslims and after killing the men take their women and children as slaves. Older women can be killed or left to die.

Following hadiths shows that prophet of islam and other jihadis used to capture women in raids and had sex with them ( raping of helpless captives)

Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 34, Number 432:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.

Notice that Muhammad does not forbid raping women captured in war. Instead, he indicates that when Allah intends to create anything, nothing can prevent it. In other words, not even the absence of semen can prevent it. So Muhammad is telling his men that coitus interruptus would be futile and ill-advised because it would be an attempt to thwart the irresistible will of Allah. Muhammad does not say a word against the forced insemination of these captive females. In fact, by criticizing coitus interruptus, in effect he supported forced insemination.

In the Qur’an, Muhammad’s god made it legal to have intercourse with slave women, the so-called “right hand possessions,” even if they were married before their capture. What an excellent example of conduct for Muslims to follow eh? ^o)

Bukhari vol 3,Book46, No. 717

"Narrated Ibn Aun:

Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives; the Prophet got Juwairiya on that day and raped her.

Muhammad and the Qur'an advocate rape of the kafirs. After their battles the jihadists partook in the pleasure of raping the wives and daughters of the conquered men. Islam separates the kafirs from a real humanity and demands total submission - submission means that the cruelest treatment is given to them so they will submit. It is only just.

Rape is a supreme tactic of war and Muhammad used it in everyway possible. Rape humiliates the kafir men and crushes the spirit of the women. It is the perfect weapon of fear and subjugation. How much more humiliated and subjugated can a woman be? The history of jihad shows that rape was a constant.

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.6575/pub_detail.asp

and still you do not answer

if women are treated equally why are they not allowed to pray alongside a man ?

come on, simple question please tell me ....

oh the number of deaths to jihad in the last TWO MONTHS ...

700 people killed in last two months as a result of Islamic extremism ...

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
June 30, 2010, 7:41 am
Jeff from Brooklyn NY says:
I am a proud Kafir . Muhammad and the Qur'an advocate rape of the kafirs. I say to Muhammad ,the Quran and allah F-U guys I am a proud american that respects human rights and yes freedom of speech, but dont try to be smart and force your sh-it over my head
June 30, 2010, 8:28 am
Steve from Cary says:
Step 1 - Build a mosque in very nice neighborhoods in American towns where the kuffar (infidels) live.
Step 2 - Drive the neighbors crazy with the adhan (call to prayer) 5 times a day blaring over loudspeakers (very loud loudspeakers).
Step 3 - Observe muslim families moving into all the houses being vacated by the formerly peaceful neighbors who have been driven crazy by the influx of muslims, halal stores and restaurants, the islamization of the schools, etc.
Step 4 - Watch as property values plummet in what was once "a nice place to live".
Step 5 - Be terrified as the neighborhood becomes a "no-go, muslims only" zone as is happening all over Europe.
Step 6 - Recall that "this is what it must have been like in Dearborn, Michigan" when the muslims took over the city.
Step 7 - Learn about stealth jihad and how it insidiously spreads like a horribly infectious disease destroying neighborhoods and lives.

The following is what happens when islamization and "creeping sharia" is allowed to infest a neighborhood, from "Bare Naked Islam".

"Imagine what it is like for weak, innocent, elderly folk who have no option but to sit back and watch through the curtains, as this alien Islamic Kingdom grows within their midst, taking over their streets and community. They cannot get up and move out doing the White Flight like the rest of us, no, our most weak and vulnerable are just left, forced to sit and accept this abomination, watching the takeover of their streets and community by this ever advancing and growing Islamic community that brings with it the alien aggressive ways of its sub-human Islamic culture."

So all of you liberal dhimmis thumping your chests with your naive and ignorant chants of "...this is America, everyone has the right to live and worship where they please, blah, blah, blah....", you go ahead and welcome these new "neighbors" to your one-nice neighborhood. Just don't try to leave your house at night. In fact don't rty your house during the day either.

You're going to look so great in that burqa.
June 30, 2010, 10:08 am
Lucy Herschel from Jackson Heights, NY says:
Some folks from Sheepshead Bay are claiming that not all the opposition to the Mosque is racist. However, clearly some of it is openly, disgustingly racist. If you are not racist, shouldn't you be more concerned about that than traffic? Please consider the fact that Muslims in your neighborhood clearly need a place to gather and institutions to protect them from all this hate. Blocking this Mosque just emboldens the bigotry.
June 30, 2010, 11:01 am
eugene from sheepshead bay says:
daily news wrote a obout the rally differently.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/brooklyn/2010/06/30/2010-06-30_fight_over_mosque_sheepshead_group_scrambling_to_stop_plan.html
June 30, 2010, 11:19 am
KT from UK says:
WELL I'LL PUT THE QUESTION THAT MUSLIMS WILL NOT ANSWER ONCE AGAIN ................................................ ARE WOMEN AND MEN ALLOWED TO PRAY TOGETHER OR ARE THEY SEGREGATED.
LET ME ANSWER IT FOR EVERYONE HERE WHO DOESN'T KNOW, WOMEN AND MEN ARE SEGREGATED.
SO MUCH FOR EQUALITY IN ISLAM.
June 30, 2010, 2:43 pm
JJ says:
UKPATROIT from UK once again read what i said above
WE CAN PLAY THE QUOTE GAME WITH ALL RELIGIONS BOOK HECK I CAN DO IT WITH HARRY POTTER
"Arthur Weasley loves Muggles so much he should snap his wand in half and go and join them. You'd never know the Weasleys were purebloods, the way they behave."
OHHHH LOOK HARRY POTTER IS RACEIST THEY ARE TEACHING KIDS TO HATE PEOPLE DIFFRENT THEN THEM THAT IS A BAD BOOK FOR KIDS
UNLESS YOU HAVE KNOWLAGE OF THE TIME PLACE CONTEXT OF THE TEXT YOU QUOTE AND REASON IT WAS SAID THEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND BEING IGNORANT AS THE RELIGOIUS NUTS THAT USE HOLY BOOKS MESS UP WHAT IS SAID FOR THERE OWN REASON...
AND 2 You SHOULD NOT TOUCH THE SUBJECT...
for example the stoneing thing
there is no mention of stoning in the Quran, and the practice is only implied in the Hadith in the context of the Prophet Muhammad’s dealings with Jewish Law. Everything you said i can spend next 10 post explainig but i wont waste peoples time here
June 30, 2010, 3:26 pm
UKPATRIOT from UK says:
@ steve

good post, and the heart of it all ... segregation ...

Muslims do NOT want to integrate ...

leave you with a quote from col Gadaffi :-

“This religion shall overcome all other religions before it. Their time has gone. It is his promise, Allah shall prevail this religion over the rest.

“There are tens of millions of Muslims in the European continent and the number is on the increase. The number of indigenous Europeans is falling drastically.

“This is the clear indication that the European continent will be converted to Islam. Europe will one day be a Muslim continent.”

another interesting point for you all ...

it is estimated that 10-15 percent of all Muslims have extreme Islamist views.... now ....

there are roughly 1 billion Muslims in the world ... so 10 - 15% of these want to kill you ... yes 100 to 150 million Muslims are extremist ....

and a sobering thought for you my firends across the pond ...

British polls: In a survey of ten surveys, "more than half of British Muslims want Islamic law and 5% endorse violence to achieve that end" .....

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/05/how-many-islamists

facts facts facts .... face with the cold hard facts .... THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING

where were the moderate moslims when the twin towers were hit in new york ? .. SILENCE

where were the moderate moslims when the London bombings took place .. SILENCE

where were the moderate moslims when the train bombings in Spain.. SILENCE

where were the moderates when children were brutally murdered in a Russian school ... SILENCE

YES where were the moderates ? I dont hear you protesting about these atrocities, i dont see you parading on the streets with placards 'not in our name' were were you all ??

Yet a man draws a cartoon of your so called perfect man .. mohammed and you all come out to protest .... THE SILENCE IS BROKEN ...
June 30, 2010, 3:37 pm
UKPATRIOT from UK says:
@ JJ

Muslims say the Qur'an has been perfectly preserved, but is this claim true? The textual integrity of scripture is an important topic in Muslim circles and will be brought up by both Islamic scholars and your regular Muslim on the street. The Muslim argument says that the text of the Qur'an today is identical to that received by Muhammad. However, there are some problems with this argument.

There are claims in the hadith that certain verses are missing. For example the 'stoning verse' for adultery. The present day Qur’an does not contain the penalty of Rajm (stoning) for adulterers, which abrogated the previous penalty.

Abdullah b. 'Abbas reported that 'Umar b. Khattab sat on the pulpit of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Verily Allah sent Muhammad (may peace be upon him) with truth and He sent down the Book upon him, and the verse of stoning was included in what was sent down to him. We recited it, retained it in our memory and understood it. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) awarded the punishment of stoning to death (to the married adulterer and adulteress) and, after him, we also awarded the punishment of stoning, I am afraid that with the lapse of time, the people (may forget it) and may say: We do not find the punishment of stoning in the Book of Allah, and thus go astray by abandoning this duty prescribed by Allah. Stoning is a duty laid down in Allah's Book for married men and women who commit adultery when proof is established, or it there is pregnancy, or a confession.

Also: The Surah of Wilaya and Nurayn are two surahs (chapters) that are supposedly claimed to be included in the Qur'an by some Shia sects. These sects would supposedly argue that Ali had a different copy of the Qur'an as compared with the Third Caliph Uthman. However, these surahs are widely seen as fabrications in most of the Muslim world. Some believe these surahs to be forgeries, intended to increase animosity towards the Shi'a Muslims in the Sunni world.

The earliest found copies of the Qur'an do not have diacritical marks, and evidence points to 'trifling' changes made to the Uthmanic recension.[3] Multiple people collected the Qur'an after Muhammad's death. Differences existed among the various versions of the Qur'an before Caliph Uthman decided to burn all the copies except one. Muhammad himself forgot Qur'anic verses. Some verses, like the ones for stoning, are missing from the Qur'an we have today. We can thus conclude from Islamic sources that the Qur'an has not been perfectly preserved and today's text is not exactly the same as recited by Muhammad.

back to you JJ ..
June 30, 2010, 3:50 pm
loud speaker from none says:
Western countries lecture the world about human rights, at same time many have become KKK extremists towards brown/blacks
June 30, 2010, 4:05 pm
loud speaker from none says:
the ex apartheid israel soldier thinks the US is like apartheid israel where the apartheid soldier can bomb mosques kill children maim women and at same time claim ithrael is only democracy in middle east
June 30, 2010, 4:12 pm
JJ says:
Just like bible is 50% jewish torah ( THE OT) the quran is also part bible and torah so what ever it says it may also be in torah bible Stuff like
For taking "accursed things"
Achan ... took of the accursed thing. ... And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones. ... So the LORD turned from the fierceness of his anger. Joshua 7:1-26
For cursing or blaspheming
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him. Leviticus 24:16
For adultery (including urban rape victims who fail to scream loud enough)
If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city. Deuteronomy 22:23-24
For animals (like an ox that gores a human)
If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned. Exodus 21:28
June 30, 2010, 4:14 pm
Jake from Bed stuy says:
screw the muslims this is America,you want your holidays,go to an islamic country--they don't observe our christian holidays. At least some of us americans had enough balls to say – Screw the muslims. We are not going to submit to you willingly Screw the Muslims, let them suffer under their "false God" for another two thousand years for all I care
June 30, 2010, 6:29 pm
JJ says:

from UK Muslim here in the US are doing pretty well they have integrated are part of the system taxes obaying the laws The failure of your goverment UK to integrate its population is its own fault Events like these and your attitude towards it is prob why Uk muslims dont feel and have much royalty towards you . Like calling a black person a N#### useing them as slave labor and then asking them why are they rebelling and not being part of your society
June 30, 2010, 6:52 pm
mehmet says:
“If they build a mosque there, I’m going to bomb the mosque,” said one outraged resident who lives across the street from the proposed house of worship between East 28th and East 29th streets on Voorhies Avenue. The resident, who refused to give his name, identified himself as a former Israeli soldier who had lived on Voorhies Avenue for eight years.

Only stupid person like him can say something like this.ny is not his father backyard.shame on you.
June 30, 2010, 7:52 pm
Jack from UK says:
UKPATROIT, you embarrass me that we are from the same country. Go and spout your filth elsewhere and stop cutting and pasting.

Yes, I am a Muslim, and reading this has be quite painful, the comments more so. People are so damn ignorant of what our faith actually is, they spout the same old lies again and again! I could go on for hours proving them wrong, but somehow, I just don't have the heart or spirit any more. I'm just glad that so few people are like UKPATROIT and others.

@ Jake, several Muslim countries (e.g. Malaysia) observe Christian, Hindu and other holidays since they have significant Christian, Hindu and other minorities. Learn your facts!
July 1, 2010, 1:13 pm
Jack from UK says:
KT, please shush and stop saying the same thing over. Yes, you know what, during prayer men are at the front and women at the back and separated by a curtain. Want to know why? What do you think of, as a man, when a woman bends over in front of you (as we do during prayer)? Come on, it's natural, you think of your wife or girlfriend or whatever! Is that really appropriate during prayer?!?! Same with sitting next to each other and stuff during prayer, prayer is about being close to God and worshiping Him, distractions are not welcome!

So yes, they are separate, but it's not what you say it is, it is respect for the women and to keep prayer 'holy'. They still pray together, we follow the same imam, just separate. Uff, talk about a storm in a tea cup...
July 1, 2010, 1:19 pm
UKPATROIT from UK says:
@ jack

i am not from your country ....

The UK is NOT a country ...

I live in Northern Ireland .... so unless you live here you don't live in MY country ... goes to show that your ignorance of the UK geographics to assume that the UK is a country does it not....

why do you have to throw the racist card ... get through your thick head ... ISLAM IS NOT A RACE ... MOSLEMS IS NOT A RACE ..... Islam is a PART of an ideology, how can one be racist against some thing that is clearly not a race ?

Moslems come in all different shapes, sizes, from different parts of the world... there are black, brown, white moslems ... I am white, with a mix of red indian blood, and a wee bit of German Jew .... with that in mind i think you will find the title of white supremacist or racist kinda of carries little weight does it not ?

no, you are dammed ignorant of your own cult of a faith ...

please do provide the facts here were the koran does not say that non believers are apes or pigs .... is it not in the koran clearly stating that jews are pigs ?

please also provide the facts here that there are indeed churches in mecca, and that other religious symbols are allowed to be worn in moslim countries without fear of persecution ...

please also state here that mohammed as the perfect man was not married to a girl of 6 and consummated the marriage when she turned nine and that today under islam it is acceptable to have sex with a minor without full penetration ...

please also clarify that the koran being the prefect book says that the sun did not rise from a muddy pool...

fact fact facts .. i dont see your facts ...

islam is a sick cult, you want islam go live in some islamic shithole and live by the sharia ... over my dead body will there be the flag of islam flying in MY country - NO SURRENDER - FGAU
July 1, 2010, 5:11 pm
UKPATRIOT from UK says:
24 hours have elapsed, the silence is deafening .. is it not ?
July 2, 2010, 12:10 pm
mike from midwest says:
"Among religious groups, Jews and white Catholics expressed the greatest opposition, both at 66 percent.
Those who support building the mosques say the opposition comes from growing Islamophobia, racism and ignorance.
Those who oppose adamantly deny that bigotry is involved."
DUH!!! The Jews and Christians who are opposed have simply read the Qur’an. Muslims regard the Qur'an as the literal word of God, as revealed by the Angel Gabriel to the Prophet Muhammad. It contains God's guidance in the form of direct instruction, warnings, parables, and encouragement.
From The Qur'an:
The Dinner Table 5.51: do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends
The Cow 2:191: And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
And who are the bigots in this debate?
July 2, 2010, 1:47 pm
andrew from montreal says:
Sounds like a lot of racist, hate mongering Joos (judging by the names) creating hell for Muslims and Arabs everywhere. Think about it you moronic americans who is destroying America is it Mohamed or Greenspan, Madoff, Wolfwitz, Pearl...get the idea.
July 2, 2010, 2:45 pm
Interfaith Freedom Foundation from California says:


The issue is religious liberty, pure and simple. Any group, ANY religious group, can start the process by which a municipal government approves plans to build a house of worship. If MAS is so connected to terrorist groups, why are they not arrested? You may not like MAS, but if that's the case, don't go to their house of worship.

In my experience, people who protest the creation of a Mosque almost always come from two groups: the Religious Right, because it has always been about making evangelical Christianity a state religion; and people who are emotional about Israel, and are afraid that exposure to Muslims will mean exposure to a different narrative than the one they feel comfortable with.

Many people think they're helping Israel by spreading bigotry against Muslims, but they're actually hurting the cause of Israel. And the Religious Right never understood the American Constitution, which is why many evangelicals are now abandoning it.

I hope that whatever group is trying to set up a house of worship are finally successful, and get something in the neighborhood. (It is probably an initiative by local people, not any particular Muslim group.) And I hope the screamers of hatred finally figure out what being an American is all about.

This situation is increasingly typical of the dilemma facing many Muslims in the US. Much of the interfaith support they once had is melting away, and the vultures of hate are moving in, trying to institutionalize Islamophobia in the same way that bigotred, narrow-minded people once tried to institutionalize hatred of Jews. And for the same reason: to have a group to hate, and a scapegoat for everything that goes wrong in their lives.

Lawrence Swaim
Interfaith Freedom Foundation
July 2, 2010, 4:26 pm
Andrew from The Liberty says:
Diana, a nurse said “Do not forget 9-11!”

Netanyahoo said 9-11 was good for Israel. Israel is the country that attacked an unarmed US military vessel in international waters, and tried to murder the crew.

Remember the Liberty.
July 2, 2010, 5:06 pm
Andrew from The Liberty says:
UKPATRIOT whines about Muslims ... where were the Muslims when ....

Where were you when Madeleine Albright said the death of 500,000 Iraqis was a price worth paying to get rid of Hussein? She is so very generous with other people's lives.

The Iraqi death total pprobably exceeds 1 million by now. What's the magic number for that to be genocide, or a holocaust?
July 2, 2010, 5:12 pm
Jasmine from Bed Stuy says:
“If they build a mosque there, I’m going to bomb the mosque,”

Fantastic. This is just freedom of speech, right? Ugh.

>> Diana, a nurse said “Do not forget 9-11!” >>

So this community center caused 9/11?
July 2, 2010, 5:16 pm
Jasmine from Bed Stuy says:
"this is America,you want your holidays,go to an islamic country--they don't observe our christian holidays"

ROFL! This is America, observe the holidays we tell you to! Now THAT my friends, is FREEDOM! That's what this country was founded for! For white Christians!

Holy staggering crap. Dude.
July 2, 2010, 5:20 pm
Jasmine from Bed Stuy says:
>> So all of you liberal dhimmis thumping your chests with your naive and ignorant chants of "...this is America, everyone has the right to live and worship where they please, blah, blah, blah....", you go ahead and welcome these new "neighbors" to your one-nice neighborhood. Just don't try to leave your house at night. In fact don't rty your house during the day either. >>

Glenn Beck? Is that you??

I have lived in Boerum Hill in a Muslim neighborhood. I have worked next to a mosque. These people do nothing intimidating at all, to anyone! I used to use the rest room in the mosque all the time and they didn't care! You would be a-skeered of the Russians too, when they were supposed to "infiltrate" our neighborhoods in the 40's. Go back to reading your WW2 Propaganda posters with the Nazi logo over someone not carpooling to work. The distortion and fear in you is out of control.
July 2, 2010, 5:25 pm
Jasmine from Bed Stuy says:
>> So all of you liberal dhimmis thumping your chests with your naive and ignorant chants of "...this is America, everyone has the right to live and worship where they please, blah, blah, blah....", you go ahead and welcome these new "neighbors" to your one-nice neighborhood. Just don't try to leave your house at night. In fact don't rty your house during the day either. >>

Oh, and not only that, but what did the settlers do when they came to this country? Infiltrated Native Tribes' land, killed them and moved in, relegating the people WHO WERE HERE FIRST to reservations and gave them casinos as a consolation prize. WERE YOUR RELATIVES PART OF THIS??
July 2, 2010, 5:28 pm
UKPATRIOT from UK says:
@ andrew

provide the facts that all the deaths you speak of are as a result of coalition forces. I would beg to differ, i would bet my last pound that the majority of deaths in iraq have been moslim on moslim violence ..... so called for the religion of peace eh !

and please refrain from throwing the racist card, it just doesn't stick .... define racism, and tell me how being anti islam is being racist ? people like you throw the racist card when you are not able to constructively respond to any points that are fact .... sad isnt it

@ jasome .... your a moslim, if not then your lying. Kufair are not allowed to use the mosque.

Good news, for all. Norway has banned sharia courts. At last a country that sees sense ! One country One law, well done Norway ! ...

http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/stre-bans-sharia-councils/

come on america, wake the hell up. the liberal left has made its bed, if they choose the wrong side, they will pay once moslims become a majority. lets not forget, nazi germany started of as a minority of 3% of the population supporting the nazi .... look how that turned out ...

another interesting note, the 2nd highest selling book in moslims countries is none other than mien kempf .... yes ... google it and see ... again another fact for you all to ponder ... the koran mien kampf both preace the same thing ... death to jews, death to non believers ....

My grandfather and his brothers did not fight and die against nazi scum for nothing, i am proud of the fact we have the freedoms we have to day as a result thier brave actions, I am proud that Americans took to that same fight ... do we want to ignore the sacrifices they made, so that a sick fascist cult - Islam is allowed to go unopposed ?

why are their no churches in mecca ? equality ? no ...

why are woman forced to have sex with their husbands ? equality ? no ...

why does the koran preach hatred against jews and non believers ? equality ? no ...

why do muslims not want in integrate ? equality ? no ..
July 3, 2010, 5:26 am
Rob from Paris says:
“We cannot tolerate foreign interests coming into our backyard telling us what we are going to do,” said speaker Bob Giovinazzi.

- LOL, I suggest that you take that up with AIPAC, Mr. Giovinazzi

“If they build a mosque there, I’m going to bomb the mosque,” said one outraged resident who lives across the street from the proposed house of worship between East 28th and East 29th streets on Voorhies Avenue. The resident, who refused to give his name, identified himself as a former Israeli soldier who had lived on Voorhies Avenue for eight years.

- This fool just designated himself as one of the first suspects the police will talk to if anything happens there...

Very un-American, all of this hatred and disinformation (or maybe it's not after all).
July 3, 2010, 8:30 am
Steve from Cary says:
@ Jasmine

"I have lived in Boerum Hill in a Muslim neighborhood. I have worked next to a mosque. These people do nothing intimidating at all, to anyone! I used to use the rest room in the mosque all the time and they didn't care!"

Jasmine....an Arab name, no? You're obviously a muslim, so of course you've lived in a muslim neighborhood. And as long as you were wearing your hijab or a burqa I'm sure they didn't care if you used the bathroom in the mosque, and neither do I.

The goal of all muslims is global domination and you can't deny it. So please take your taqiyya and your typical muslim and/or far-left loonspeak elsewhere.

Oh and thanks for the Glenn Beck compliment. I'm flattered.
July 3, 2010, 3:08 pm
Jasmine from Bed Stuy says:
Steve-

Hi pumpkin. No I am not Muslim, I am an atheist, I am white and I was born in upstate NY. Jasmine is a plant with a lovely scent. Not just a princess in a Disney movie. My family is Irish. I could not look more caucasian if I tried. I have red hair and freckles.

So you are 100% wrong. Now what?
July 4, 2010, 8:58 am
UKPATRIOT from UK says:
@ jasmine

your lying, non believers are not allowed to use the mosque. Tell me.. if they let you use the mosque, are you able to use it freely ? as a woman, you are allowed to use it as with everyone else ? no .. your lying ...

And still there has not been any facts to counter those i have put to everyone ... does this not mean that these facts are true, and that islam is indeed the sick cult it is ?
July 4, 2010, 10:52 am
Jasmine from Bed Stuy says:
UKPATRIOT:

You are wrong. I used the bathroom in there all the time because the art studio where I worked was a small space with no bathroom and the dergah was next door. Lots of times there were women in the kitchen cooking and they were always friendly. I had friends and bosses who are Muslim. It doesn't matter if you don't believe me or not. It makes no difference to me. It's my life and it's what happened. If you choose not to believe it then what's the point in you even posting here, since you are not open to anything except your twisted beliefs. Haven't we had enough ignorant fear in this world for centuries? There are always paranoid nutcases like you people around... time and again they are proven wrong. Still they surface. "Hatred is not a family value." (I bought that bumper sticker at an Islamic store where they sold prayer rugs). Go hide and be scared in your underground bunker and the rest of us will live life. Thanks.
July 4, 2010, 1:34 pm
No name from usa says:
They r right ....this bloody muslems teach only hate and death ...their mosque is a school for terrorits ....
July 5, 2010, 12:24 am
Patti from Long Island says:
These residents have EVERY reason to be deeply concerned. Western society has a very specific idea and defintion for the word "religion". Islam does NOT even come close to our definition of that word. Whatever Islam used to be, is today, irrelevant. Islam has evolved into the MOST intolerant, violent, and subversive, totalitarian political ideology. Islam has one goal, that goal is world conquest using various methods. Refer to the site Islamwatch.org to educate yourself, Mr. Tracy. Most of those statistics and information has been compiled from the apostates of Islam ( those that left the "faith" and are now living in hiding due to DEATH THREATS from practicing Muslims).
July 5, 2010, 11:14 am
Federico de Rossi from MIlano says:
The Zionist Propaganda seems to have worked.

You AmeriKKKans go to Muslim countries, PLUNDERING their resources and MURDERING their children.

And then you blame the Muslims for defending themselves.
July 5, 2010, 4:22 pm
matt ali (convert) from birmingham, uk says:
some of you need to pull your head out the fcuking gutter the whole segregation argument is a non-starter if you look at th eholiest mosque in islam (the kabah in makkah) women and men pray side by side the only reason its' not like that outside of there is because it's so women can pray on their own without distraction from men and so men can pray on their own without distraction from women - sexual attraction is only natural and the time in the mosque is meant to be a time of peace and oneliness with the god with no distracting barriers - but in makkah the level of concentration and thought is already heightened to such a high degree of euphoria that it doesn't matter.

you guys taint the beliefs of nearly 2 billion by the idiocy of maybe a milliion at most the fact remains that i mysel fand every muslim i know dont believe in these bullshit claims above and believe in living in peace wherever we live and are instructed by the prophet to adhere to the laws of the land we live in strictly - all the quotes and perceptions you have of muslims are of the idiots who (muslims hate juts as much as oyu guys but rarely say in public because when you guys taint us all by one brush we feel obliged to become defensive unfortunately) but the fact remains that these few extermists are the only thing the ridiculous biased right wing media focus on i bet most of you read/watch fox news - that in itself is laughable. the american media is controlled by a select few who want to propel their idea of islamic inferiortiy and their neocon beliefs where everyone should be forced into democracy even if they dont want it (the people of dubai for example are perfectly happy with their current rule) - if countries justkept to themselves thered be no problem the whole conflict is portrayed as muslim attacking the west starting from 9.11 but that was just a series in the events which started with american trooops being stationed in saudi arabia (the reason bin laden attacked america which never gets told to the population by your media its just made out to be a aimless act of relgiious fanatacism - no its just politics being brushed over by religion for extra valdidity just like the rabbi's of isreal defend their politics with judaism and the right wing america used the bible to defend slavery etc.

painting all muslims as terrorists is strupid you can take quotes out of context and use them as you like but hte fact remains i could tackle and gun down each quote but i wont bother because i have better things to do, so here's an example:

When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you. And when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. (Deutronomy 7:1-2)

“When you approach a city to fight against it, you shall offer it terms of peace. If it agrees to make peace with you and opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you. However, if it does not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you… Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes (Deuteronomy 20:10-17)

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)

“I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence. (Luke 19:26-27)

"Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword. I am sent to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" (Matthew 10:34-35)

these are all quotes from the bible that i could use to say christianity is backwards and terrorist backing but i'm not an idiot - i know that christianity isn't any of thise, and in turn muslims have never blamed christianity for the recent conflcist in bosnia chechenya kosovo palestine etc - we know its political all about power money land and freedom - we dont Judaism and Christianity. Such spirit needs to be reciprocated.

if you're going to live by what the right wing media tell you then you're living with your head in the gutter instead go talk to any educated muslim at a universitiy to get the real image of islam my close friend yvonne recentely converted to islam because she was tired of being treated like a sex object by men - the idea that you have of women being subjugated by all muslims is ridiculous go talk to any muslim woman to get the real image and i dont mean the ones who have left islam (good luck to them i say i'm all for people doing their own thing) but i mean real muslims who practise the faith peacefully.

christians were never kicked out of palestine infact over 500,000 christian palestinians now live in chile (go look it up it's fact) becaues they got kicked out by the jews following the annexation of the land by the zionist jews who destroyed churches as well as mosques. but still, jews are not our enemies, infact it was ottoman turkey who sent ships to rescue the JEWS and muslims who were kicked out of southern spain a few centuries ago during the reconquista - and during your 'dark ages' muslim academics in iraq syria iran etc were busy inventing algebra and expanding science which formed the precursor to the rennaissance just google " la conviviencia" if you don't believe me. so learn some history before you say they've contributed nothing.

saying all muslims are terrorists is like muslims in the middlee-ast and asia and far east looking at the coverage the westboro baptist church idiots get and mistaking them to be representative of christianity but we know they're just a fringe few idiots - unfortunately for us all, you guys ever see is the idiot muslims who go around sayign their hate messages about killing kaffirs etc - which is all bullshit which they've been brainwashed to believe from their superiors with their own political aims (as a muslim i could gun their arguments down easily and have done so time and time againt to defend democracy and peace of the west.

the fact at hand is freedom of belief and speach is not being upheald - there are hundreds of mosques in muslim countries such as egypt malaysia indonesia turkey syria iran etc but you guys choose to beleive the propoganda - the egyptian government even recentely paid out of their tax payers money to build a cynagogue for the jewish community there recontructiong an old jewish heritage site within egypt and donating it to the jewish community - but none of this gets coverage because nice happy friendly peace loving muslims we never make the ——ing headlines because thats not a story so the few that are lunatics are always all over the papers because it sells stories and keeps you guys believing all this propaganda so you'll accept the wars and bloodshed that go on to 'protect you' but in reality are just sewing seeds for more conflict and benefiting the large war corporations. get your head out the gutter. we all want peace and the sooner you realise that all muslims aren't terrorists and start working with us together towards peace the world will be a better place my closest friends are christian and jews and hindu's and we have no problem with each others beliefs we respect them (just like muslim countries such as turkey indonesia malaysia etc allow all religions to exist peacefull and in the past muslims have defended jews and other religions but none of you know any of the world history before the rennaisance because we're simply not taught it in school we're lead to belive everything started from the rennaisance when that's simply not true.

pull your head out the gutter, you're being used as pawns by the war industry as you keep bickering with each other and arguing rather than reaching constructive dialogue whilst the bankers and war criminals across the world are getting richer as political battles are being tainted with religious brushes in order to make the public their own propaganda spokesmen like above. true muslims don't hate at all we believe in peaceful co-existance just like in the time of the convivencia - the largest jewish population in the middleeast outside israel is in iran (its a fact go look it up) but the right wing media never tell us these things, hiding facts as they deem necessary to justify their illegal wars whilst our (i'm british so by 'our' i mean british troops) brave troops are getting killed in the trenched as their pockets fill up with blood money.

stop your bickering and feel passionate about something that matters. i've been to loads of mosques in my life and never have i once heard a word of hate and that's a fact the truth is everyone has a fear of the unknown, they've never been to one themselves so they assume the portrayal of it in the media must be true (the same way the savage inhumane and doglike nazi media turned germans against innocent jews) - infact i've been part of loads of gahterings at mosques that have tackled extremism and brought the politically dissaffected youth (who turn to extremism when they see hatred like the above aimed against them) and moved them towards peace and the true practises of the faith if done properasome of you need to pull your head out the fcuking gutter the whole segregation argument is a non-starter if you look at th eholiest mosque in islam (the kabah in makkah) women and men pray side by side the only reason its' not like that outside of there is because it's so women can pray on their own without distraction from men and so men can pray on their own without distraction from women - sexual attraction is only natural and the time in the mosque is meant to be a time of peace and oneliness with the god with no distracting barriers - but in makkah the level of concentration and thought is already heightened to such a high degree of euphoria that it doesn't matter.

you guys taint the beliefs of nearly 2 billion by the idiocy of maybe a milliion at most the fact remains that i mysel fand every muslim i know dont believe in these bullshit claims above and believe in living in peace wherever we live and are instructed by the prophet to adhere to the laws of the land we live in strictly - all the quotes and perceptions you have of muslims are of the idiots who (muslims hate juts as much as oyu guys but rarely say in public because when you guys taint us all by one brush we feel obliged to become defensive unfortunately) but the fact remains that these few extermists are the only thing the ridiculous biased right wing media focus on i bet most of you read/watch fox news - that in itself is laughable. the american media is controlled by a select few who want to propel their idea of islamic inferiortiy and their neocon beliefs where everyone should be forced into democracy even if they dont want it (the people of dubai for example are perfectly happy with their current rule) - if countries justkept to themselves thered be no problem the whole conflict is portrayed as muslim attacking the west starting from 9.11 but that was just a series in the events which started with american trooops being stationed in saudi arabia (the reason bin laden attacked america which never gets told to the population by your media its just made out to be a aimless act of relgiious fanatacism - no its just politics being brushed over by religion for extra valdidity just like the rabbi's of isreal defend their politics with judaism and the right wing america used the bible to defend slavery etc.

painting all muslims as terrorists is strupid you can take quotes out of context and use them as you like but hte fact remains i could tackle and gun down each quote but i wont bother because i have better things to do, so here's an example:

When the LORD your God brings you into the land where you are entering to possess it, and clears away many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and stronger than you. And when the LORD your God delivers them before you and you defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. (Deutronomy 7:1-2)

“When you approach a city to fight against it, you shall offer it terms of peace. If it agrees to make peace with you and opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall become your forced labor and shall serve you. However, if it does not make peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword. Only the women and the children and the animals and all that is in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as booty for yourself; and you shall use the spoil of your enemies which the LORD your God has given you… Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes (Deuteronomy 20:10-17)

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)

“I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence. (Luke 19:26-27)

"Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword. I am sent to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" (Matthew 10:34-35)

these are all quotes from the bible that i could use to say christianity is backwards and terrorist backing but i'm not an idiot - i know that christianity isn't any of thise, and in turn muslims have never blamed christianity for the recent conflcist in bosnia chechenya kosovo palestine etc - we know its political all about power money land and freedom - we dont blame Judaism and Christianity. Such spirit needs to be reciprocated. its funny because the IRA are seen as terrorists (which they were) but never 'christian terrorists' (which they arent't, i know this because i'm not stupid and dont taint the religion of the sinner rather the sinner himself and his political beliefs) but if a muslim does anything wrong he's automatically an islamist or a extremist radical muslim rather than the politically driven idiot he likely is - the religion is dragged in by the media. the IRA members who prayed to their god every night and were caught with bibles in their car were exempt from their religion being attacked by the media, they were reightly portrayed as politically driven, yet when an idiot muslim says allahhuakbar when he does his terrorist attack (just praying to his god) the religion is dragged in even though it has nothing to do with the religion which all true muslims such as myself and everyone i've met in my life (thats a lot of muslims!) know and aren't brainwashed by the extremists - it's a lack of understanding which people such as above don't help to bridge.

if you're going to live by what the right wing media tell you then you're living with your head in the gutter instead go talk to any educated muslim at a universitiy to get the real image of islam my close friend yvonne recentely converted to islam because she was tired of being treated like a sex object by men - the idea that you have of women being subjugated by all muslims is ridiculous go talk to any muslim woman to get the real image and i dont mean the ones who have left islam (good luck to them i say i'm all for people doing their own thing) but i mean real muslims who practise the faith peacefully.

christians were never kicked out of palestine by muslims fascists in response to that one lady up there infact over 500,000 christian Palestinians now live in chile (go look it up it's fact) because they got kicked out by the jews following the annexation of the land by the zionist jews who destroyed churches as well as mosques; go talk to any palestinian jews, talk to the priest of bethlehem if you want (i've spoken to him he's a lovely bloke) and he'll tell you about how he's faced dsicrimination from jews. but still, jews are not our enemies- there are bad and good in all people and we need to realise that (and yes there are bad in muslims as well such as the failed state of pakistan - most muslims outside that country accept that its just nationalism that stops people from within it recognising it - and other countries which are backward in many respects , muslims have bad leadership where are views of the public aren't portrayed by the opressive -often western backed such as in saudi and pakistan- governments) infact it was ottoman turkey who sent ships to rescue the JEWS and muslims who were kicked out of southern spain a few centuries ago during the christian reconquista - jews and muslims were allies in large part for centuries until the rise of zionism and infact following roman expulsion it was under syrian and arab rule that jews were told that they are welcome to live in palestine again - all overlooked facts by todays media who love portraying muslims as the devil and the only problem in world peace today when the truth is the elite few are taking you for a ride. and during your 'dark ages' muslim academics in iraq syria iran etc were busy inventing algebra and bringing the '0' to the west from the hindu's of india, and founding the basics of modern optics, etc - expanding science which formed the precursor to the rennaissance just google " la conviviencia" if you don't believe me. so learn some unreported history before you say they've contributed nothing.

saying all muslims are terrorists is like muslims in the middlee-ast and asia and far east looking at the coverage the westboro baptist church idiots get and mistaking them to be representative of christianity but we know they're just a fringe few idiots - unfortunately for us all, you guys ever see is the idiot muslims who go around saying their hate messages about killing kaffirs etc - which is all bullshit which they've been brainwashed to believe from their superiors with their own political aims (as a muslim i could gun their arguments down easily and have done so time and time against to defend democracy and peace of the west. quick fact - to the right-mighted muslims, jews and christians ARENT "kaffirs" because we believe that christianity and judaism are true gods' religions (that's why muslims are allowed to eat kosher meat and, in days when there used to be christian slaughter method, christian meat too and marry into religions of those families) - kaffirs are 'non believers', nothing more and (no negative connotations like its said to be portrayed), so in context that would refer to athiests, and a idol worshippers etc - so don't be 'proud' to be kaffir if you're christian or jewish or any believer in one god because by the strict definition, you aren't. you act like experts on islam but all you know is the media version of events not the way people practise it in day to day life peacefully - giving to charity, obeying the laws of your country and looking out for your neighbor (we are obliged to look after our neighbors or face hell under islamic law because it's meant to be founded on community spirit. yes people today are idiots and sometimes practise it wrongly and say stuff that is offensive to us all but they are just that - idiots, not muslims.

the fact at hand is freedom of belief and speach is not being upheald - there are hundreds of mosques in muslim countries such as egypt malaysia indonesia turkey syria iran etc but you guys choose to beleive the propoganda - the egyptian government even recentely paid out of their tax payers money to build a cynagogue for the jewish community there recontructiong an old jewish heritage site within egypt and donating it to the jewish community - but none of this gets coverage because nice happy friendly peace loving muslims we never make the ——ing headlines because thats not a story so the few that are lunatics are always all over the papers because it sells stories and keeps you guys believing all this propaganda so you'll accept the wars and bloodshed that go on to 'protect you' but in reality are just sewing seeds for more conflict and benefiting the large war corporations. get your head out the gutter. we all want peace and the sooner you realise that all muslims aren't terrorists and start working with us together towards peace the world will be a better place my closest friends are christian and jews and hindu's and we have no problem with each others beliefs we respect them (just like muslim countries such as turkey indonesia malaysia etc allow all religions to exist peacefull and in the past muslims have defended jews and other religions but none of you know any of the world history before the renaissance because we're simply not taught it in school we're lead to believe everything started from the renaissance when that's simply not true.

pull your head out the gutter, you're being used as pawns by the war industry as you keep bickering with each other and arguing rather than reaching constructive dialogue whilst the bankers and war criminals across the world are getting richer as political battles are being tainted with religious brushes in order to make the public their own propaganda spokesmen like above. true muslims don't hate at all we believe in peaceful co-existance just like in the time of the convivencia - the largest jewish population in the middleeast outside israel is in iran (its a fact go look it up) but the right wing media never tell us these things, hiding facts as they deem necessary to justify their illegal wars whilst our (i'm british so by 'our' i mean british troops) brave troops are getting killed in the trenched as their pockets fill up with blood money.

stop your bickering and feel passionate about something that matters. i've been to loads of mosques in my life and never have i once heard a word of hate and that's a fact the truth is everyone has a fear of the unknown, they've never been to one themselves so they assume the portrayal of it in the media must be true (the same way the savage inhumane and doglike nazi media turned germans against innocent jews) - infact i've been part of loads of gatherings at mosques that have tackled extremism and brought the politically disaffected youth (who turn to extremism when they see hatred like the above aimed against them) and moved them towards peace and the true practises of the faith if done properly which is to be an active member of society. not your brainwashed propaganda that you hear and take in and spew again. this is the facts, i won't bother answering any responses as i have better things to do with my time and the fact remains that most of you wont have changed your mind by reading this as it's the unfortunate truth that humans always think they'rein the right and stubbornness will cause them not to change their blinkered views as they've already set their mind on something being as it is.

i'm writing this late at night and typing fast so excuse any spelling (i have a degree in english haha but not the best of typers on the computer lol) but i bid you all peace and happiness and hope you come to find the truth about muslims (who dont want to convert you towards barbarism and extremism but we just want to be stop being scapegoated and attacked by ignorance at every corner. if you went and lived in a country like turkey or malaysia or dubai etc for some time you'd see the real peacefulness of the muslims in day to day life in regards to non muslims, not the version spewed by the idiots with orange beards who only preach hate to the media- we hate them just as much, but we have no voice in society when the media continually overlooks us and makes stories out of those idiots. the tabloid press and networks such as fox are a disgrace. i'm all for peace and democracy and freedom of speech (yes even to those like many of you who criticise islam) but it's ironically acts such as these denying these people the right to worship in a mosque, that are going against the principals of democracy, rather than letting them have their freedom of expression and using the mosques to tackle extremism, rather than trying to get rid of them all together,ly which is to be an active member of society. not your brainwashed propaganda that you hear and take in and spew again. this is the facts, i won't bother answering any responses as i have better things to do with my time and the fact remains that most of you wont have changed your mind by reading this as it's the unfortunate truth that humans always think they'rein the right and stubbornness will cause them not to change their blinkered views as they've already set their mind on something being as it is.

i'm writing this late at night and typing fast so excuse any spelling (i have a degree in english haha but not the best of typers on the computer lol) but i bid you all peace and happiness and hope you come to find the truth about muslims (who dont want to convert you towards barbarism and extremism but we just want to be stop being scapegoated and attacked by ignorance at every corner. if you went and lived in a country like turkey or malaysia or dubai etc for some time you'd see the real peacefulness of the muslims in day to day life not the version spewed by the idiots with orange beards who only preach hate - we hate them just as much but we have no voice in society when the media continually overlooks us and makes stories out of those idiots. i bid you peace and understanding.
July 6, 2010, 8:40 pm
Pedro from Spain says:
Your country rapes and destroys other lands and in the process you go broke doing it. Screw you guys. Hope the whack job right vs. the elite liberal fights splits your country into 2. Let’s talk in 10 years when China is pulling your strings……oops never mind that is already happening…..
July 7, 2010, 5:25 pm
James from Queens says:
Looking at the picture above, where are all the black, Hispanic, and intellectual looking people? Why do I only see red neck white trash mother f’rs standing in line for the grand opening of a new walmart in their hood
July 7, 2010, 5:35 pm
Jasmine from Bed Stuy says:
James, have you been to Staten Island? I have family there, but you cannot swing a dead cat without hitting a complete ignorant racist moron.

And why do people say Liberals are "elite?" Because we are smart? Thanks! You're putting yourself down when you say that, you know. The Dumb Conservatives vs The Smart Liberals. Awesome.
July 8, 2010, 10:53 am
Jefferson from Queens says:
A few weeks ago two dark skinned individuals were beaten up by one such group and had to be rescued by the police...

it later emerged that they were Egyptian christians who'd turned up to join the group of mostly white southern baptists and zionist jews...
July 11, 2010, 7:06 am
Jefferson from Queens says:
A few weeks ago two dark skinned individuals were beaten up by one such group and had to be rescued by the police...

it later emerged that they were Egyptian christians who'd turned up to join the group of mostly white southern baptists and zionist jews...
July 11, 2010, 7:06 am
Jeffery from Clinton Hill says:
The picture accompanying this story tells all...
A bunch of racist overweight undereducated holdouts in a neighborhood known for the same. Move to Long Island already deuchebags.
As a resident of Brooklyn and an American born taxi driver (yes we do exsist), I know Muslims and they are an intergral part of our community and generally hard working patriotic citizens (just like nearly all immigrants). In fact it was a Muslim street vendor who alerted "New York's Finest" to the smoking car bomb they had failed to notice in Times Square recently.
If you don't like freedom of religion you are definitely living in the WRONG nation.
What is so ironic is that all these racists are sons and grandsons of people who were treated in much the same manner...
That's the great thing about America, in a generation or two you can go from being an ethnic group that is universally despised by "real Americans" to being a despiser and hatemongerer yourself...what a country!
July 22, 2010, 5:07 am
Karen from Sheepshead Bay says:
Fools!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hate only breeds more hate!!!!!!!!!!!! Did anyone protest when the Bay became overrun with Russians on welfare and food stamps? These same Russians owning businesses and buying homes with cash? You morons who generate hate don't seem to realize the kind of world you are creating for your children. THINK
Sept. 12, 2010, 10:11 am
Rebekah from Brooklyn says:
I dont blame them.
Have ya ever read the Quran, or learned what Shari'a Law IS ALL ABOUT ?
THERE IS NO PLACE FOR SUCH BELIEFS IN AMERICA!
AND A SCARY STORY?
What is scary is that....THEY EVEN THOUGHT OF BUILDING TEMPLES TO THIS MADNESS IN AMERICA!
...OUR Almighty Father & OUR Savior BE WITH US!
VIOLENCE IS NOT/ IS NEVER THE ANSWER! (i wish our DOD knew this!!!)
I PRAY WE PEACEABLY STOP THIS INVASION OF AMERICAN BELIEFS!
Sept. 20, 2010, 11:48 am
Rebekah from Brooklyn says:
also.........WAKE UP! this WHOLE mosque thing has been contrived by the CORPORATE Globalists TO DIVIDE & CONQUER AMERICA! WE are nothing but pawns in the ONE WORLD attempt to socialize & weaken the very fabric of OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC & OUR Founders, the CORE belief THIS COUNTRY was founded upon....the immigration laws are insane, NIL, today....yeah, bring your, weary, your oppressed, to AMERICA BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT WHERE THEY TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY, OUR COMMERCE, OUR GOVERNMENT......if the US FEDS did not ravish the resources & economies of THE PLANET, then those in foreign lands could BUILD COUNTRIES OF THEIR OWN & NOT come to USA in drovvvvvves & cause conflict as a result of economic & military COUP ETC WORLDWIDE! MADNESS ABOUNDS! because THE US FEDS ARE TYRANNICAL & PILLAGING WORLDWIDE, have been for CENTURIES. WE have also allowed our immigration laws to be weakened to the point where anything is legal & requirements for citizenship are impaired! YOU WANT PEACE? then WE THE PEOPLE MUST put FEDERAL GOV in its PROPER PLACE, STOP THE WARS FOR RESOURCES, OCCUPATION & PROFIT....REGAIN STATE SOVEREIGNTY, SECURE OUR BORDERS, KEEP THE FOREIGN ELITE OUT OF OUR GOV, AND MIND OUR! MIND OUR! OWN! BUSINESS!
Sept. 20, 2010, 12:09 pm
Rebekah from Brooklyn says:
READ THE KORAN and then decide if THIS SORT belong in America?

The Bible teaches that Christ was our living sacrifice..that He came to us, to atone for our sins, His love is free, a gift, so that we may live.

Jesus offers life, allah offers death.

The Koran teaches that death is the way to allah, blowing people up is the way to allah, harming others is the way to allah, Allah never comes to you, you must pass tests to come to him. - And if you do not believe this, and believe the few peaceful Muslims you have been around..take some time to investigate people who left the Islamic belief and have come forward. To lie in Islam is duty to allah. You can find tons of interviews right on YouTube. The mothers gladly watch their sons die because that means they too will see allah. The peace part only comes into play when people submit to Islam. Everyone else is an infidel and must be indoctrinated or killed. The Koran teaches that heaven is gluttony with 72 virgins who regenerate their virginity with tons and tons of food - gluttony of the flesh.
The Koran teaches that women are property, it's ok to rape, force marriage and have sex with girls as young as one, to steal the Jewish women and turn them into their concubines. We constantly see news reports and actual videos of women being stoned to death, kicked and beaten, raped, acid thrown in their faces, their noses cut off and more.
The Bible teaches that the Kingdom of God is peace and joy, not meat and drink.
The koran teaches that the only way to allah is set upon tons of rules and if you break any of them, you can be beheaded.
THIS IS NOT RELIGIOUS FREEDOM! it is an ABOMINATION! 911 WAS an inside job and now the guilty who have power over government are placing blame on the people of the Middle East to CAUSE the hatred & prejudice against them.....so the US & the rest of the world can rob them of their resources and kill their people w/ depleted uranium, drones, OUTRIGHT murder. Many have love & prayers for these & ALL people across our Globe as I & my family do, do not wish them harm, OR TO JUDGE THEM.....as long as they stay in THEIR country, THEY can practice ALL THE SHARI'A LAW they want.....BUT be assured when they go back from whence they came, THE American morals which OUR FOUNDER KNEW will be fighting this ABOMINATION for centuries to come. THIS IS NOTHING NEW! READ THE BARBARY COAST, American HISTORY, and Christian history OF FIGHTING ALL TYRANTS INCLUDING ISLAMIC TYRANTS & THEIR MURDEROUS BELIEFS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME!
WAKE UP! TRUE PATRIOTS!?
TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!
Sept. 20, 2010, 8:14 pm

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