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Grimm weighs in on trashy situation in Bay Ridge

The Brooklyn Paper

The trash problem in Dyker Heights and Bay Ridge has gotten so bad that the neighborhood’s congressman is getting involved — for moral reasons.

Rep. Michael Grimm (R–Bay Ridge) blasted residents who are calling for the removal of corner garbage cans because removing the cans not only doesn’t solve the problem, but creates another problem: teaching children right and wrong.

“Part of raising children is to teach them that if they have some garbage, they should hold it until they get to the corner,” Grimm told us. “But to do that, you need a garbage pail to put it in. I want people to be able to throw out things.”

He also said that better enforcement of existing littering laws can solve the problem.

“Until I hear of an alternative, right now I’m not comfortable saying, ‘Let’s just take away the cans,’ ” he added. “We have to just step up the enforcement on it. On some corners, we may have to put some cameras in. It’s illegal dumping.”

It’s the first time that the freshman congressman has weighed in on the smelly issue that has become a hot button topic in Bay Ridge since the city in 2009 stopped picking up corner trash cans regularly.

To combat the scourge of overflowing litter baskets — which often become clogged with illegally dumped household and commercial trash — the city removed public garbage cans along Fourth Avenue at the request of Community Board 10 to study whether removing them would actually make the area cleaner. Members of the board claimed the bins attracted household trash, became overfilled, and dirtied-up the neighborhood.

And CB 10 members say the program works.

“My goal is to get rid of litter baskets altogether,” environmental board chair Greg Ahl said in June.

That won’t happen if Grimm has anything to do about it. The congressman said that he will soon meet with Department of Sanitation officials to talk about ways to step up enforcement of dumping and to urge the city to keep the cans.

And some community leaders in Dyker Heights back their Republican representative.

“I’m not saying that removing the pails is the greatest thing,” said Fran Vella-Marrone, president of the Dyker Heights Civic Association, who pushed in the spring for can removals in her neighborhood. “If we’re not getting the service, it’s the last resort. Something has got to be done. What we really need is more pickups and more enforcement.”

Reader Feedback

teegee from sunset park says:
this guy grimm is some piece of work. first he wants to make a steel cross a national monument and then he decides that garbage pails are needed to teach kids right from wrong. why can't a kid be taught to carry trash home? we need a divine power with a litter basket to protect us from this guy. go back to screwing up our national government and leave us to manage our religious beliefs and our children.
Sept. 7, 2011, 4 am
Or from Yellow Hook says:
"My goal is to get rid of litter baskets altogether,” environmental board chair Greg Ahl said in June."

A true genius!

Maybe he can rename the garbage and give it a snappy name like "items of ephemeral use" then there will no longer be any garbage at all.
Sept. 7, 2011, 7:30 am
abner from bay ridge says:
I do not like Grimm, but he is right this time. To say that kids should be taught to take their litter home is not to know kids
Sept. 7, 2011, 11:40 am
Jeanette Grayeb-Mihal from Bay Ridge says:
Removing the garbage pails is lunacy. They will just throw the garbage on the ground. Pride in the neighborhood is lacking, and until you restore civility it will be an ongoing issue. At least with the garbage pails you have some sense that the garbage will be placed in them. The Department of Sanitation must be called upon to do additional pick-ups. Fining people who throw garbage in the pails will also prevent abuse.
Sept. 7, 2011, 12:04 pm
Jack from Bay Ridge says:
I agree that we need more trash bins, but no need for hyperbole. We need them to contain litter.
Sept. 7, 2011, 12:21 pm
Jay from Bay Ridge says:
One person's trash is another person's problem. Is there a trash war in Bay Ridge?
Sept. 7, 2011, 1:24 pm
J from Bay Ridge says:
I rarely vote republican but I have to agree with Grimm here. If there are no garbage pails people are just going to throw everything on the floor. The neighborhood is already getting filthier as the years go on and this is making it worse. It's common sense...people do not carry garbage home with them end of story.
Sept. 7, 2011, 2:51 pm
Mike from Bay Ridge says:
Based on the idea that if we get rid of the garbage cans on street corners we'll have less garbage on the streets, we have to conclude:

- get rid of the parking meters and we'll have fewer cars parked on the street,

- stop asking dog owners to pick up after their pets and well have fewer droppings to step on,

- don't light the lampposts and we'll see better at night, and

- shut off the fire hydrants and we'll have fewer fires to put out.

See anything wrong with the above logic?
Sept. 7, 2011, 3:30 pm
Tony from Dyker Heights says:
I can't believe it took him this long to weigh in on this issue. It's one of the most discussed issues at CB10 meetings. A third of his constituents live in Brooklyn. What does he do all day besides prosecute whistleblowers and hold bad press conferences? I like that he helped out with Fort Hamilton. But I think his priorities are out of whack.
Sept. 7, 2011, 3:45 pm
Jay from Bay Ridge says:
Maybe there should be a Residential Improvement District or RID (similar to a Business version) in our neighborhood.
Sept. 7, 2011, 4:01 pm
Jay from Bay Ridge says:
my personal observation: teens are often littering in Bay Ridge nowaday.. a lot of underage drinking and caffeine-higher by energy drinks.. many hanging out on the street until 3 a.m..
Sept. 7, 2011, 4:39 pm
MH from bay ridge says:
I live right off Fourth in the upper 80s. With no bin on the corner, people dump their coffee cups, wrappers, and other garbage in front of my house.
Grimm is 100% right on this and people who say get rid of the public garbage bins can come sweep up in front of my house anytime.
Sept. 7, 2011, 5:04 pm
Jay from Bay Ridge` says:
there's two major types of littering in Bay Ridge:
(1) household garbage
(2) teenagers littering

(1) household garbage came from buildings with inadequate property management. If that could be solved, people will be less inclined to bring household garbage to next to corner bins.

(2) teenagers littering came from the lack of civic education in our schools and by parents. Many teenagers think it is cool to litter because it means a sense of freedom and they think it is the city's obligation to pick up their trash.
Sept. 7, 2011, 8:45 pm
Jay from Bay Ridge says:
Many plagues were started from litter.
Sept. 7, 2011, 10:06 pm
Bay Ridger from Bay Ridge says:
We live near the corner of Shore Rd and 4th Ave. There used to be a garbage can on the northeast corner, near where the B16 starts its run. They took it away some time ago and people just left garbage on the sidewalk, lawn, wherever. And although the teens drop their breakfast garbage there while they wait for th B16 to Ft Ham High, adults do their fair share too. I see drivers dumping garbage from their cars all the time.

Let's face it... New Yorkers are slobs!

P.S. Grimm has nothing to do in Washington so he's focused on garbage in Bay Ridge? What's wrong with that picture?
Sept. 13, 2011, 1:56 pm

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