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Walk this way! Yiddish sign orders women to move over

The Brooklyn Paper

Why did the Orthodox Jewish woman cross the road? Because a Yiddish sign ordered her.

A bold new religious decree was bolted to street trees this week that orders women to move to the side when a man is walking towards her on the sidewalk.

The red, yellow and white plastic sign, first noted in the Jewish watchdog blog Failed Messiah, is roughly translated, “Precious Jewish daughters, please move over to the side when you see a man come across.”

Orthodox activists said the signs should not be taken seriously.

“There are some hard-core Hasidim in Williamsburg who think they still live in 19th-century Ukraine and they consider interaction between the sexes, in even the most casual, accidental manner to be licentious,” said bike shop owner Baruch Herzfeld. “They are enormous pains in the tuchis, and most people try to avoid conflict, so they often get their way.”

But Hasidic residents say that the sign is being misinterpreted.

“It is very respectful; it’s not ordering you to cross the street — it means, ‘Let him pass head on,’ ” said one Hasidic man who declined to give his name. “There are a lot of people on the street during the holidays, and this is a reminder to let men pass so they don’t go barging into a group of women.”

Parks maintenance workers removed 16 signs on Bedford and Lee avenues between Marcy Avenue and Broadway on Wednesday because they were nailed to trees, a violation of city law subject to a $150 fine.

The signs do not indicate their author, but sources said that they are part of a campaign by a rabbinical group that has printed other “modesty” decrees, including one in June demanding that women not wear tank tops.

Many Hasidic women ignored that fashion advice — but the pedestrian etiquette warning appears to have more weight.

This week, women on Bedford and Lee Avenue could be seen allowing men to pass on several occasions.

“Sometimes a gentle reminder is needed to keep the neighborhood the way it should be and that Jewish values are supposed to be followed,” said one Hasidic woman, who declined to give her name.

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Cynthia from Clinton Hill says:
OMG!!!! Are they serious? This is America, sexist all they way!!!!! This aint Isreal.
Oct. 7, 2011, 4:35 am
mrbk says:
OMG!!!! Are they serious? This is America, sexist all they way!!!!! This aint Isreal.

Shut the —— up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct. 7, 2011, 6:35 am
Chris from Bayridge says:
Putting up signs on a public street ordering women to follow a religious law doesn't seem very "American" to me either
Oct. 7, 2011, 8:52 am
Or from Yellow Hook says:
Celebrate Diversity!
Oct. 7, 2011, 8:57 am
yoely from williamsburg says:
I live her in the cult. Most people aren't really like this. Its a few unemployed idiots that make us look crazy to the world
Oct. 7, 2011, 9:12 am
Hopper from next door says:
This is not a BOLD NEW religious decree. Leave these people to their specific ways that they themselves chose, and cover the REAL NEWS
Oct. 7, 2011, 9:18 am
Greg from Ft. Greene says:
So what about other "religious" practices? What about voodoo? What about live animal sacrifice? Do you leave those people to "their specific ways"? Where's the line drawn, and who decides it?
And please tell us what REAL NEWS is. Just because it's not interesting to YOU doesn't mean it's not news.
Oct. 7, 2011, 9:47 am
indisbelief from Flatbush says:
Hopper, if it's on a public street it's all our business. If they lived on an island by themselves that would be one thing but they CHOOSE to reside in a large, diverse city and attempt to take over PUBLIC spaces and force their rules on everybody else too, not just their own members. It's not just completely inappropriate it's unconstitutional and illegal. The way NYC and Brooklyn especially lets this community get away with this kind of thing (as well as not paying taxes) is ridiculous. Literally no where else in the United States can anybody put up a sign telling women to step aside for men. Absurd. But of course if any political reps in NYC question this no matter how illegal it is, they get bullied and accused of antisemitism.
Oct. 7, 2011, 9:47 am
David from Flatbush says:
Most large religions subjugate women. The justifications are absurd, and womens' compliance is disheartening.
Oct. 7, 2011, 10:01 am
Dave from Park Slope says:
Time that these relics from the middle ages join the 21st century, and drop the sexism and bigotry. And please, someone fine these morons for nailing their signs to trees.
Oct. 7, 2011, 10:23 am
Jim from Cobble Hill says:
Seems like the signs would violate some city ordinance or another.
Oct. 7, 2011, 10:24 am
Rob from Greenpoint says:
Wack jobs
Oct. 7, 2011, 12:29 pm
sev from not NYC says:
How about signs telling men to move around women. Why is the responsibility on the women? Are (jewish?) men really that hopeless they cant move aside either? This is sickening.
Oct. 7, 2011, 1:24 pm
Shmulik from Williamsburg says:
Fine: Post your horrible sexist decree all over the neighborhood. That's your own community's twisted business.

But I can't believe these schmucks would bolt their signs directly into street trees. Those trees belong to all of us. Harming those trees is illegal both by Jewish law and the law of New York City.
Oct. 7, 2011, 2:08 pm
And justice for all from not NYC says:
bloody talibans !

Oh, wait a second...
Oct. 7, 2011, 2:39 pm
Ahab from Bay Rij says:
Baba Booey! Howard Stern! Baba Booey!
Oct. 7, 2011, 3:10 pm
Cynthia from Clinton Hill says:
@Mrbk No you **** up! Tool....
Oct. 7, 2011, 3:52 pm
California Dude from Well, California says:
A story like this would be headline news on FOX News if a sign like this were posted in a predominantly Muslim neighborhood, don't ya think? SHARIA LAW! SHARIA LAW!
Oct. 7, 2011, 3:53 pm
FYI says:
The sign is for the locals, not you.

Note that it is in Yiddish.
Oct. 7, 2011, 5:22 pm
FYI says:
And not English!
Oct. 7, 2011, 5:22 pm
Mrbk says:
@ cynthia, oooooooooooooh. i'll pepper spray you like those ——s on wall street!! that's what you need. You will be crying like the —— —— you are!!
Oct. 7, 2011, 5:24 pm
Catie from Williamsburg says:
@mbrk, Seriously? You're saying that she deserves to be raped because she disagrees with you? I don't agree with her either, in fact I think what she wrote edges dangerously close to anti-Semitism, but saying "you need to get raped" still crosses a line. Unnecessary and uncool.

As for the actual posters, I'm significantly more upset that they drove nails into street trees than at the signs themselves, though I think the sentiment is silly and somewhat gross (obviously sexist). The signs aren't meant for anyone outside of their community, and I don't think they expect other Williamsburg residents to bend to their religious beliefs--although their anger over the bike lanes on Bedford Ave. (re: scantily clad secular women on bikes) veered into that territory.
Oct. 7, 2011, 7:57 pm
msbk says:
My husband mrbk is a —— —— whose —— —— should —— —— —— —— so that he —— ———— —— himself in —— ——.
Oct. 7, 2011, 9:03 pm
Schnoor from Uws says:
Cynthia
Would you merry me
Oct. 7, 2011, 11:27 pm
Kristen from Texas says:
LOL...this whole thing cracks me up. Only in NY. Can't see this happening in northcentral Tx.
Oct. 8, 2011, 11:07 am
RJ O'Guillory from Sierra Mountains says:
Before my retirement, and before all my brain seizures and damage from driving off a two hundred foot cliff at 70mph,.... in addition to my primary job,...I was also a Federal Diversity Instructor and EEO Investigator for the US Department of Defense for over 20 years,......

Change,...or attempted change..... is coming to a neighborhood near you,...it has been coming for over 50 years and it is the by-product of a small group of men & women who believe they should be able to control the land, the resources and the people....

.....besides the religious idiocy, they want to take the world back to a simpler time,...back to an era that their simple-minds can comprehend, conceive and control,

......but demographic diversity is just a fact of life on an ever-decreasing world globe,...

.....and as the world gets smaller through plane and space travel,...as well as cell-phones, i-phones, i-mac and the i-be-dead-now world of Apple & Steve Jobs,...

...groups both large and small are going to be trying to "save" their "culture"....

......and they are scared to death...!

...If I were NOW I'd organize the largest, most decadent
looking parade of women ever assembled and I'd wade into that neighborhood like the Midwest floods,.....

...and if one of those trees dies due to the actions of these butt-clowns...I'd fine their whole group hundreds of thousands of dollars,....(if the dollar is still worth anything by then,..Ha!)....

Regards,

RJ O'Guillory
Author-
Webster Groves-The Life of an Insane Family
Oct. 8, 2011, 12:35 pm
Andy from Williamsburg says:
Hello Aaron,
Are those bolted into trees?
Because that's illegal according to NYC Administrative Code §10-119, §10-121(a-e, g)
Posting on Trees
It is illegal for any person to affix any handbill, poster, notice, sign, advertisement, sticker or other printed material upon any tree by any means. In addition, affixing any handbill, poster, notice, sign, advertisment [sic], sticker or other printed material upon a tree by means of nailing or piercing the tree by any method shall have an additional penalty imposed equal to the amount of the original penalty. There is a rebuttable presumption that the person whose name, telephone number, or other identifying information appears on any handbill, poster, notice, sign, advertisement, sticker, or other printed material on any item or structure is in violation. Every handbill, poster, notice, sign, advertisement, sticker or other printed material shall be deemed a separate violation. Anyone found to have violated this provision, in addition to any penalty imposed, shall also be responsible for the cost of the removal of the unauthorized postings.
FINE:
$150-$200 - 1st Offense
$300-$550 - 2nd & Subsequent Offenses

Refer to the Digest of Sanitation Codes if you're a non-believer http://www.nyc.gov/html/dsny/downloads/pdf/rules/digest/digest.pdf
Oct. 8, 2011, 12:43 pm
pj from ny says:
i should hang a sign in my town reading: Precious american daughters, please move over to the side when you see a man come across. and we will see how that goes over. SHARIA LAW!!!!
Oct. 8, 2011, 12:53 pm
j r from Earth says:
How about a sign that says, "Take your cult and ram it."
Oct. 8, 2011, 1:17 pm
Lauren from Park Slope says:
What a bunch of hypocrites in this country. What ths really amoints to is another minority group trying to shove their backwards cutlures and religion on others. How UNAMERICAN!!!!!! No one culture should have so much influence as to allow out and out oppression of others. A ruling Thocracy no matter what religion, has no place in the American Republic. The claim of "this is our neighborhood" holds no weight in the American laws.
The real bottom line is that no minority (1.7% of US Pop) should use the Holocaust as an excuse to bully the American people into allowing control over policy here. No REAL Ameican would tolerate this. To call non-Jews anti-semetic if we object to being emotionally blackmailed is weak minded, selfish and a cheap trick to deflect the mirror of truth. 60 - 70 million people died during WWII - the entire world had a holocaust. No one is extra special. So now after that blood bath, Israel was established for Jews as a homeland. Now, if you can't tolerate American freedom and laws, then go and live in the homeland.
There are Israelis who are paid trolls to go on the blogs and try to discredit anyone who questions any outrageous abuse of civil rights with their relgious BS.
Oct. 8, 2011, 1:26 pm
Mikel from Tel Aviv says:
“There are some hard-core Hasidim in Williamsburg who think they still live in 19th-century Ukraine"

Better that than thinking they live in 1st Century BC Judea, unlike those crazies in Tel Aviv, who are also from Eastern Europe.
Oct. 8, 2011, 2:27 pm
edward from upper west side says:
china's finance minister stated,we could never have a financial meltdown on the scale of america,because we would never allow jews to control our finanancial systems,we allow our people only who would never act as parasites destroying their country for their own tribal benefit. wish we had such patriots in the u.s. to protect us.
Oct. 8, 2011, 2:46 pm
Paul from Cairns says:
So you've all been whipping yourselves into a lather about Muslims and Shariah Law, yet your real enemy has always been living among you, pretending to be one of you. Time to awake up and look around you. What is it they say??? "By way of deception...."??
Oct. 8, 2011, 5:22 pm
Jeddah from Bkly says:
These signs on public streets in the US are ILLEGAL!
Why are they allowed? J.
Oct. 8, 2011, 6:57 pm
Shlomo Biggot from realist Brooklyn says:
What about a sign telling them not to bomb innocent palestinian children?
Oct. 8, 2011, 7:24 pm
Bob from Los Angeles says:
WTF - We have real jewish taliban in our backyard and we going half world to Muslim taliban fight them?
Oct. 8, 2011, 7:40 pm
Big Mouth from Brooklyn says:
From the pic itself you see women walking on as if the sign is not there. No one gives a crap that it is there or not there.
Oct. 8, 2011, 9:28 pm
bratt from australia says:
and muslim's hate the american freedom........
Oct. 8, 2011, 9:37 pm
Cynthia from Clinton Hill says:
Hey hey cynthia.lol@ that.
Oct. 8, 2011, 10:37 pm
austin from brooklyn says:
All you antisemites and self hating jews. You are all jealous that's why you hate them. For the ones that say they don't pay taxes. I have news for you they pay more then you do. They don't use the public schools and pay school tax, they don't use the liebrary and pay tax on it. They are a minority that are blamed on things or lawes that you the mejority brake. So stop all the hatred on people that are family oriented and have their own culture these things are not meant for us people that don't want to adhere it. Look where the real crime is. Like murder,robbery,racketeering,mafia,gangs,prostitution,abduction,kidnappings and more. YES there are always bad apples on every tree but to hate a group for having their own culture is not american or humane. So stop
Oct. 9, 2011, 6:54 am
austin from brooklyn says:
And rape
Oct. 9, 2011, 6:57 am
austin from brooklyn says:
Things like this should concern us. Not some —— sign that doesnr imply to us. Get real

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Oct. 9, 2011, 7:10 am
Richard from Tampa FL says:
Might be a good place for the Slutwalk movement. Just another "sign" that some of the human race is still a bit slower to progress than others.
Oct. 9, 2011, 8:47 am
Debbie from Brooklyn says:
I'm tearing down the ones I see. What nerve!
Oct. 9, 2011, 9:20 am
G.Smyth from Yonkers says:
what a relegion, not too much different from the Taliban. We can do without this kind of culture !
Oct. 9, 2011, 11:36 am
not a new yorker from not in new york says:
What a bunch of loons these people are
Oct. 9, 2011, 12:36 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Cythia, I don't agree with those signs either, but Israel does give equal rights to women especially in being one of the few that does in its region.
Oct. 9, 2011, 1:17 pm
Moe Zane from Up town says:
Soon, we will all be Palestinians!
Oct. 9, 2011, 2:13 pm
Chris from Australia says:
I think that if there is a street where a substantial majority (e.g. more than 60%) of the pedestrians belong to a minority group, such as Hasidim, Chinese or whatever, then they should have a legal right to post signs for their community in their own language. What they do in their societies is no-one else's business, even if it seems like a medieval cult to you. But this leads to a thornier question - How should Hasidic men expect non-Hasidic women to behave when they come across each other on the street? After all, in most Western societies, it is considered more "gallant" or polite for a man to allow a woman to precede him through a door and similarly, most men would take the initiative and walk around a bunch of women, not through them or expect them to stand to one side for him.
Oct. 9, 2011, 2:18 pm
Chris from Australia says:
Therefore, the leaders of this Hasidic community should instruct the women to do this, if that's what the leaders want, and instruct the men to take the initiative and move over to one side if the oncoming woman or women do not first move, whether these women are Hasidic or not.
Oct. 9, 2011, 2:27 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
First off, Israel has nothing to do with this. For those who don't know, Israel is a democracy, not a theocracy. Unlike much of the rest of the countries in the region, women are treated equally as men are to such an extent, that they are even drafted to the military along with them, and this is not a joke. The only people that should be blamed are the Hasidics for having those signs, not all Jews, especially not Israel. As an Israel-born Jew, I feel offended when I hear such anti-semetic or even anti-Israel remarks when that has nothing to do with that. I am sure nobody would like like it if I critcized an entire group or country just because of a few, so don't do that others. On a side note, I don't even keep kosher, so I will probably be having pepperoni on that pizza that I am eating.
Oct. 9, 2011, 2:53 pm
Matt from Montreal says:
Israel not a theocracy ?? They don't even allow civil marriage, for crissake - not to mention marriages between a Divine Jew and a beastly goy...
Oct. 9, 2011, 3:25 pm
Joey from Pittsburgh says:
Chris, you may think what you want. We live in the 20th century in the United States and we don't tolerate putting racist or misogynist beliefs into law, whether its from Chinese, Micronesians or a backwards religion.

Over 95% of Americans are Christian, but the Christmas tree and all Christian symbols have been almost completely removed from public places, prayer has been forbidden in public schools for fiftty years and the expression "Merry Christmas" has been removed from public conversation due to pressure from minority groups but you want the US to tolerate hatred of women because its in the Jewish community?

I suggest we expand your thinking from a small town to the entire country. If you live in the USA you accept the norms in this country and hatred or mistreatment of women is not acceptable in our culture.

You may do that in Isreal, Australia or wherever you live, but we don't want people of that ilk here.
Oct. 9, 2011, 9:46 pm
Big Fish from NYC says:
Such bizarre people. If New Yorkers pay attention they'll also notice the eru lines cris-crossing our avenues. They care not about infringing on others rights or destroying the beauty of our surroundings chiefly because they arrogantly consider themselves the chosen people. Unfortunately for them this will soon come to a crashing end.
Oct. 9, 2011, 10:26 pm
Joey from Pittsburgh says:
Here is another wonderful tradition they have. Sucking the blood of a babies penis! Maybe the US congress should watch this before ordering another Arab city or country to be bombed.

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/never-again-gilad-atzmon.html
Oct. 10, 2011, 12:19 am
Occupied from North WBurg says:
Let's send the morons at #OccupyWallStreet to South Williamsburg to protest something productive for a change.
Oct. 10, 2011, 10:22 am
Jwiz from America says:
Total BS!!! It's a PUBLIC STREET take your religious beliefs into your home and worship space and keep it there.
Oct. 10, 2011, 10:22 am
Matt from Montreal says:
You can get Jews out of the ghetto, but you can't get the ghetto out of the Jews.
Oct. 10, 2011, 10:30 am
omar from toronto says:
weird, if muslims did the same thing, a muslim bashing fest by the largest media outlets would be the order of the day...
Oct. 10, 2011, 11:35 am
Josh from Williamsburg says:
Tal, the Hassidem in Brooklyn are not the same at all to those in Israel. Anyway, actually in Israel, they are pretty uniformly hated by the rest of the country for their obnoxious orthodoxy (while Israel itself is not particularly sexist, the Hassids there are). Women i know who live there and visited have complained of having garbage thrown at them for entering a Hassid neighborhood not covered/clothed to the wrist and ankle.
Oct. 10, 2011, 12:57 pm
Big Fish from Manhattan says:
And these are the first people to find fault and publicize in the(ir) media about treatment of muslim women. It's done of course, with selfish intentions, to promote/cause the "clash of civilization" in which they 1. protect their beloved Israel, 2. to $profit$ handsomely off of ensuing conflict, 3. concentrate further control of our govt and others.
This is only tip of iceberg.
For shame!
Oct. 10, 2011, 3:16 pm
Doofus Gumby from Berkeley says:
Hey Mr. Short, don't you know the difference between Yiddish and Hebrew? Those signs are written in Hebrew you big dummy. :)
Oct. 10, 2011, 6:28 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Josh, I only said that for those who knew nothing about Israel, and it was probably better to hear from someone who was born there and spent a lot of time there to disprove that. I too never liked the Hasidics, especially because they are still backwards in their beliefs. I can never understand what they have against modern culture. I know that in Jerusalem, they were known for throwing rocks at any vehicle that would enter their neighborhood on the Sabbath. Overall, Israel is no theocry, it just happens to have a Jewish majority. As a matter of fact, there are a number of Christians, Muslims, Druze, Bedouins, Bahians and even Bhuddhists living there, and can practice their beliefs freely unlike many other countries in the region. If anyone really thinks that Israel doesn't have freedom of religion, then try looking at some of the other countries such as Iran, Turkey, Saudia Arabia, and even Egypt in how they respect those that aren't Muslims. Impositions based on religion really need to stop, and if women don't want to be covered, they shouldn't be forced to because this isn't against the law.
Oct. 10, 2011, 7:10 pm
Joey from Pittsburgh says:
The Muslim bashing from the Israelis and their lobbyists in America never stops. The USA has attacked and killed millions because of this bashing: Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya not to mention its anti-Arab policies that have led to the suffering and death of tens of thousanads of Palestinians and Lebanese. The frequent threats to Iran coming from the US are disgusting and they're mostly done on behalf of the militaristic racist state of Israel. But things are starting to change. This won't continue forever.

Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. Israel is a racist country and has no right to judge anyone else.
Oct. 10, 2011, 9:38 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Joey, I didn't know that you are a sympathizer for Hamas and Hezbollah, becauase that statement sure gives them the aide and comfort. Reguardless, you are looking at this backwards. It's the Muslim nations that threaten to attack Israel, not the other way. How is Israel racist when many of the countries I have mentioned have more evidence of that? Another thing you keep forgeting is that the terrorists tend to use their own people as human shields, which is why they are thrown into harm's way, and I never see the IDF do this. I can't believe that you don't see the anti-Semtism comming from them, but you are probably one yourself. The only peace they understand is the piece they want of Israel, which is why they keep demanding for the Jews to be pushed into the sea, and want to continue what the Nazis started.
Oct. 10, 2011, 10:32 pm
manhatposeur from Thailand says:
I swear I think the Taliban and the Ultra Orthodox Jews should live together.
Oct. 11, 2011, 12:29 am
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Like Israel, I think that Brooklyn motorists should biuld a wall to keep out the bike zealouts of streetsbloggers. This way, orthodox women could walk on the so-called bike lanes and the probelm would be solved once and for all.
Oct. 11, 2011, 9:31 am
Joey from Pittsburgh says:
Everyone knows Israel are racist murderers. I suggest you read the book written by a man that has done more than any other non-Israeli in the world when he brought peace to the region under conditons that did nothing for the USA, President Jimmy Carter. Read his book Palestine: Peace not Apartheid. Norman Finkelstein has revealed the lies, propaganda and atrocities Israel and its supporters in the USA has committed and every human rights organization in the world has documented the atriocities Israel has committed, including the Israeli Human Rights Organization B'Tselem.

Not to mention the blackmail and extortion racket used to profit off the Holocaust. Read Finkelsteins "Holocaust Industry" in which billions of dollars were stolen from Europe.
Oct. 11, 2011, 7:59 pm
Rabbi Rosen from Flatbush says:
Those that claim to be of the Jewish faith that are against such signs are mocking those that suffered in the Holocaust! These signs help uphold the morality that holds Jews together! Without the moral code that separates men and women there is no Jewish faith and no Jewish people! I call on all Jews whether Hassidic, Lubavitcher and Orthodox to unite against the Gentile hordes that seek to destroy us and enslave us! Without our unity there will be another Holocaust!
Dec. 9, 2011, 4:15 pm
Kelly from Texas says:
Wow.
Dec. 27, 2011, 12:57 am
S from Williamsburgh says:
It's amusing to read such vehement opinions expressed in the comments, written by people who are completely ignorant about the culture in question and how the people targeted by these posters perceive the request to move over. As a woman born-and-bred in the values of ultra-orthodox Judaism (in the Williamsburg community), I can tell you that not a single woman in my acquaintance is offended by the signs. We embrace separate-but-equal (and I mean equal) in terms of gender as a value, and a very fundamental value at that. The wording of the poster constitutes a respectful reminder to a much respected subgroup of the community, namely women, to maintain the dignified divide of the sexes that has always been observed in the history of our community. My understanding of the reason behind the posters asking women versus men to move aside is that, since ultra-orthodox Jewish males generally avoid looking at women (lest they get turned on by the woman and experience immoral thoughts), it is the woman who is expected to notice the man first, and thus take the opportunity to avoid the collision.

Personally, I like the idea of making one group responsible (by choice) for taking the action of moving aside. Too many times in the past have I found myself in the awkward "repelling magnets dance" of moving right while the other party moves right and quickly moving left while the other guy instantly has the same idea and then ends up colliding.

For those who worry about the human rights of the women in the community, you can lay your fears to rest. The limitations we abide by are religiously binding, and therefore, the only one in position to punish any transgression is G-d Himself. There are no physical (but some social) retributions to actions deemed wrong by the Jewish religion. We do have the privilage of free choice in daily decision making. Although we do not necessarily view some individuals' decisions as right, we still maintain the option to choose wrong (to the deciding individual's personal detriment). So, all the parallels drawn to Taliban are just plain rediculous. Come and see for yourself.

By the way, the sign is written in Yiddish Using the Hebrew alphabet. Script Hebrew (Yiddish) is generally used for handwritten text, whereas this type of lettering is mostly used for typewritten text in both Yissish and Hebrew.
May 9, 2012, 12:14 am
John from W'burg says:
Give me a break, S. There is no excuse when any man of any religion tells a woman SHE has to move aside for a man simply b/c HE was born without a vagina, and he thinks that somehow makes him better. We wouldn't put up with such signs written in Farsi by Muslims, and we don't have to put up with it simply b/c you think Jewish people are untouchable and uncriticizable. Hint: you aren't above criticism. This is America; we don't tell women to m ove aside for men. If you want that, move to Israel or Iran (is there any difference??)
May 9, 2013, 8:57 am
Susan from DC says:
As weird as the situation is, this paper is making it worse by the misleading headline. There was no *order*, there was a very respectful plea. Very different. Yes, I absolutely think that grown men should not need women to baby them like this, but this paper is twisting the situation it worse than what it already is.
Feb. 21, 3:45 am
Michael Santomauro says:
Fanaticism is now mainstream in the Jewish legal community, that it is affecting my divorce case:

When a Judge (or the lawyers) loses his or her objectivity, then the truism applies:

Everything is religious, everything is political.

Justice Matthew F. Cooper: Sending me this about "The ——ing Jews"
Mr. Santomauro: No, actually, it was the opposite of that. It was "—— the Arabs" in the essay.
Sandra Schpoont (Attorney for my 11 year old son): Oh, that's better.
Steven Mandel (Attorney for my ex-wife): Oh, that's better.
Justice Matthew F. Cooper: Oh, that's better.

Letter from The Mandel Law Firm (Steven J. Mandel) 12-9-13
http://tinyurl.com/ozkcek8

Justice Matthew F. Cooper: "Is that [Jewish] agenda to dilute the Aryan race?" On page 20:

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/newsletters/Newsletter%20727.pdf
Feb. 22, 7:54 pm

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