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Southpaw to close; tutoring center will move in

The Brooklyn Paper

A long-standing Park Slope concert hall will close and become a tutoring school now that the hood caters more to kiddies than roadies, owners say.

Southpaw — the legendary music venue that hosted the likes of Patti Smith and Joan Jett — will close on Fifth Avenue and Sterling Place by the end of February, according to co-owner and music guru Mikey Palms.

“I’m kind of over Park Slope — it’s not a destination for nightlife anymore,” said Palms, who also owns Public Assembly NYC in Williamsburg. “It’s time to go.”

He said a firm called New York City Kids will soon replace the grocery store-sized house of music, offering academic tutoring and rock climbing for tots.

The shuttering of the music hall, coupled with an influx up kid-focused businesses such as Lullaby Baby on Fifth Avenue and Bumble Bee Day Care on Fourth Avenue, could be a sign that the neighborhood — which is already famous (or infamous) for being among the most child-focused in the city — is becoming even more of a mecca for moms and dads.

“We are seeing a lot more kid-centered things,” said Susan Fox, founder of Park Slope Parents. “But, you know, just because we’re ‘babyified’ doesn’t mean we don’t want good music.”

Southpaw opened in 2001 after Palms cut an unusual deal with the landlord.

“A crackhead and a prostitute were living above the venue and the owner told me, ‘If you can get ’em out, you can have the space,’” he said.

Palms claims he managed to make the tenants leave, explaining, “I have my ways — I’m from Brooklyn.”

Over the years, Southpaw drew big-name DJs, underappreciated indie bands and racy, genre-bending acts such as Big Freedia (which was a fun show, in case you missed it).

As families moved into the neighborhood and the street became less gritty, Palms began offering “kids shows” with upbeat daytime bands and even “a stroller check.”

But Park Slope property values increased, pushing out some of the artists who once frequented Southpaw, Palms said.

That’s part of reason he says he’ll hand over the lease and focus on nightlife in less family-centric areas such as Williamsburg.

But that neighborhood is changing too, Fox warned.

“Williamsburg is becoming Babysburg,” she said.

Reach reporter Natalie O'Neill at noneill@cnglocal.com or by calling her at (718) 260-4505.

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Joey from Clinton Hills says:
except Barbes, it seems like Park Slope clubs have a hard time establishing a real identity. Southpaw was pretty good, but not legendary.

Last time I went to Public Assembly, the sound in the back room was atrocious. (it also sucked when Galapagos was in that N.6th St. space.) Can't something be done about it? The sound at the Knitting Factory in Williamsburg is great.
Jan. 26, 2012, 10:50 am
jinx from bk says:
never went to Park Slope much for shows, neighb makes me want to vomit
Jan. 26, 2012, 11:22 am
Liz from ProspectHeights says:
Palms sounds like a bit of a jerk. You could no longer make it in Park Slope and now you want to blame the residents? Sounds like sour grapes to me. The Bell House (just down the road from here a bit) has been ranked the Number 1 venue in the city by numerous outlets for the past 2 years running. Their shows are consistently sold out and MANY of the folks who attend are from Park Slope.

The problem here is that the Southpaw programming was TERRIBLE. Like really bad.

I hope he realizes that Williamsburg has changed significantly too. Perhaps even more rapidly and with even more aggression that the gentrification of Park Slope.

According to the most recent demographics, it now has more children under 5 than Park Slope. So he doesn't really know what he's talking about with regard to music programming nor the neighborhoods he operates in.

Trashing the neighborhood who helped you get your start is a sure way not to run a business. I will never go to another show at Public Assembly and plan to spread the word that the owner is a jerkoff.

You did not know how to hire a booker who knew what he/she was doing. Don't blame anyone but yourself. The other venues in the area are doing great. Union Hall is a blast and so is Barbes and so is Rock Shop and Bell House.

Southpaw sucked. Own it.
Jan. 26, 2012, 11:24 am
jay from park slope says:
what is really going on is that southpaw's design , with stage near front door, lack of booking good bands and the better club alternatives of the Bell Hose, Rock Shop and Littlefields was inferior. Plain and simple.
Jan. 26, 2012, 11:29 am
James Frum from Park Slope says:
It's funny reading this article now. After living basically next door to Southpaw for years, I always lamented the lack of new bars or restaurants in the neighborhood. There have always been nice places in Park Slope, but it always seemed like other neighborhoods, like Williamsburg, would get a new restaurant I was excited to try once or twice a week, Park Slope got nothing to be excited about ever.

What's interesting about the timing of this though, is that just recently, for the first time, I've started to feel like things were maybe starting to turn around for the neighborhood. No, it's not becoming Williamsburg (thankfully), but, in my opinion, there has been quite a bit to get "excited" about recently - the huge new German beer hall opening around the corner, Talde, Dinosaur BBQ, Fort Reno Provisions, Sky Ice, Mission Delores, Bark, etc. etc.
Jan. 26, 2012, 11:58 am
herbert from park slope says:
now that great lakes is done and south paw is closing, park slope is officially gayer than ever.
Jan. 26, 2012, 12:06 pm
Eileen from SouthSlope says:
I agree with you James, but Park Slope has never staked it's reputation on its bars and restaurants...those things come and go.

Park Slope's attraction comes from it's beautiful architecture, massive expanse of green that is Prospect Park, the terrific schools, the Greenmarket, Brooklyn Museum, Botanical Gardens and a sense of community and scale that somehow creates one of the most charming urban neighborhoods in the country. That's why it's so expensive too.

You are correct that recently there have been a number of high profile openings in Park Slope (in addition to your list, Terroir is taking the Great Lakes spot) and Beauty Bar is opening on 5th Avenue and while that's great, none of these even come close to the charms of the neighborhood which have nothing to do with materialism, overpriced food or trendiness. Park Slope is beautiful and it's charming on its own. Stores and restaurants come and go (you see quite a few closing in Williamsburg these days) but the historic elements combined with the intimate sense of community is what makes Park Slope special. None of these closings or openings MAKE the neighborhood like they do in Williamsburg. That neighborhood depends on these things, because it is lacking in many of the other basic things that make up a close knit community.
Jan. 26, 2012, 12:15 pm
Eileen from SouthSlope says:
excuse all my typos with the it's where they should be its!
Jan. 26, 2012, 12:16 pm
James Frum from pork slope says:
I love the park, the architecture, the beautiful brownstones, the neighborhood vibe, etc.

But I also love food, and you can only eat at Al Di La so many times before it gets a little boring.
Jan. 26, 2012, 12:21 pm
Eileen from SouthSlope says:
I think you're underestimating some of the restaurants in Park Slope, James. Some of the good to great ones are Applewood, Thistle Hill Tavern, Beer Table, Fonda, Cafe Steinhoff, Convivum Osteria, Bark, Franny's, yes of course Al Di La, but also Moim, Der Komisser, Zito's, Ghenet BKLYN Larder, and Zuzu Ramen. There are so many places that I think people just forget about them or something. I agree that there are many mediocre ones, but many of those are closing and being replaced by better quality things. We also have all of the great places in Prospect Heights just a few minutes walk away.
Jan. 26, 2012, 12:26 pm
wmc from Sunset Park says:
Oh no! I love this place, it's a spot for me to groove all night long. Can anybody recommend a similar venue in Brooklyn that plays old-school hip-hop and has a zero-attitude crowd?
Jan. 26, 2012, 12:28 pm
Juan from Gowanus says:
Park Slope was never a "destination for nightlife." As others have said it has its share of bars and restaurants but nothing special enough to draw people from other neighborhoods (the way that Carroll Gardens, Ft Greene, Williamsburg etc do). Certainly it's never been a place 20-somethings went to party.
Jan. 26, 2012, 12:28 pm
Liza from PS says:
I know lots and lots of people who come to Park Slope from other neighborhoods to eat and drink. Maybe not PARTY in the sense of Williamsburg, but many places in the neighborhood are packed with people from all over Brooklyn and Manhattan. Go ask the people at Franny's, Bark and Al Di La. The amount of tourists in the neighborhood has also been growing at a very rapid rate. They come because the guidebooks in Europe talk very favorably about Park Slope...the Museum, the park, the historic architecture, the Botanic Gardens, etc etc etc
Jan. 26, 2012, 12:54 pm
E from PS says:
Southpaw has been a piece of crap since day one. I went to all of its best concerts--they used to get pretty decent names before Bell House and Union Hall began taking them. But even when they got the good shows, none of them qualified the club for legendary status. Additionally, the layout is atrocious. Anyway, over the last few years, every time I walk by, I just get disappointed. Good riddance.
Jan. 26, 2012, 1:23 pm
Donald from Gowanus says:
The place had become an eyesore. Will be nice to have something fresh in there with a little life during the day. The shows were low quality and yes, the layout of that place was totally idiotic. Happy to see that guy go since he sounds like a dbag now saying nasty things about the neighborhood. Bye! Have fun at your other failing club in Williamsburg!
Jan. 26, 2012, 1:30 pm
diane from park slope says:
southpaw needed a top to bottom renovation. it was poorly laid out and dirty. that's not a good thing, especially when the shows were so bad. maybe he can go check out littlefield or union hall or the bell house sometime to see how a real venue is supposed to operate.
Jan. 26, 2012, 2:02 pm
Malembi from BK says:
Yeah —— that place. And Palms can blow me.
Jan. 26, 2012, 2:31 pm
Andrew from Park Slope says:
People talking about how the booking was crap at Southpaw are obviously one dimensional music fans who have listened to nothing but white music by white people for white people and likely have only lived in Brooklyn for less than 10 years. NOT ALL PEOPLE ARE WHITE INDIE ROCK MUSIC FANS. How many times have you seen a NON WHITE performer at all these other places in Park Slope? The only people of color I have ever seen there were security. Kinda like the slave days. Congrats to The Bell House and The Rock Shop and Union Hall for whitewashing Brooklyn culture. Leave it to white people to screw up a good thing.
Jan. 26, 2012, 2:38 pm
Artie from PH says:
Park Slope is mostly white, so yes it was incompetent booking to book no shows that white people would like.

That would be like me opening up a music venue in the heart of Bed Stuy and programming Norah Jones and the Decemberists.

Get a clue, Andrew. You book for your audience and the audience in Brownstone Brooklyn is majority white so it would only make sense to program (at least a FEW) shows that the residents would enjoy.

The guy Mikey (what the hell kind of name is that for a grown man?) sounds like a real loser.
Jan. 26, 2012, 2:44 pm
Artie from PH says:
Oh and sorry some people have only lived in Brooklyn for less than 10 years. What a completely moronic, asinine thing to say. As if that is either somehow bad in a city like NYC where most people come from somewhere else.

If this city was made up of only locals, it would look more like Detroit than New York City.
Jan. 26, 2012, 2:46 pm
Andrew says:
Artie-

Spoken like a true Brooklyn transplant. Would't it be wise to program for ALL of Brooklyn and ALL of New York instead of limiting yourself? Brooklyn is 4 million deep. They AREN'T ALL WHITE, INDIE ROCK FANS. The WORLD DOESN'T REVOLVE around white people from Park Slope who have one dimensional music tastes. Celebrate Brooklyn provides, and has for years, an amazing variety of music for EVERYONE.
Jan. 26, 2012, 2:51 pm
Nicoqui from Park Slope says:
I too miss the old days of NYC ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8vBDET3kbI

But things change indeed!! Comments about BellHouse & others are true, they reflect the area well & run a tight ship. Respect SouthPaw to all the years of bringing great artists to the hood & taking risks with ALL kinds of music!!
But you can't diss the area that kept you open... even tho I know you grew up here! If I got mad at every hood that changed & nudged me out, I wouldn't be in the 5 boroughs anymore... Anyways, good luck in Williamsburg & invest in sound proofing for the 1,000's of new luxury condos going up.
Jan. 26, 2012, 2:56 pm
Artie from PH says:
Yes, I am a transplant. Born and raised in Manhattan. Lived there for 27 years and now in Brooklyn for the last 12. Brief stint in Paris for 3 1/2 years.

You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

BTW, according to the most recent Census, Brooklyn is 1.5 million residents, not 4 million.

My point is that if Southpaw was failing to attract an audience, then its owners should have been smart enough to change the programming to cater to the taste of its residents like every other venue in the world does.

Continuing to program music (which YOU might like) does not discount the fact that they are now closing due to the fact that they could not program things that people wanted to come hear.

Unlike Celebrate Brooklyn, Southpaw shows were not multi-dimensional for the most part and unlike Southpaw, Celebrate Brooklyn BRINGS IN AUDIENCES.

Do you see how this little thing called business works Andrew??
Jan. 26, 2012, 3 pm
Artie from PH says:
Sorry I made a typo. Brooklyn is 2.5 million, not 4 million. Big difference.
Jan. 26, 2012, 3:01 pm
Malembi from BK says:
—— off Andrew. The booking there sucks. —— that place.
Jan. 26, 2012, 3:01 pm
Evan from WT says:
Andrew speaks the truth. With Royale gone and now Southpaw, where can you go in the neighborhood to listen to non-Pitchfork-approved music? Every bar caters to the newly arrived white transplant with their ipods full of Andrew Bird and other crap.
Jan. 26, 2012, 3:03 pm
Edward from bk says:
Andrew and Evan:

If there was a market for the music you think the slope is now lacking due to the closure of Southpaw and Royale, do you suggest we get the government involved to subsidize these shows even though not enough people were coming to support the existence of these venues?

Or do you suggest that the racial make up of Park Slope should be cleansed of white folk so that places like Southpaw can again reign supreme.

Do you even know how dumb you sound? This is capitalism. Don't like it, move to China.

In this country, if the Southpaw model wasn't working out because the demographics of the neighborhood have changed (one of the best qualities of this city, btw) they either should change up their bookings or they will close. Since they were too stupid to do the former, the latter is now the reality.

Maybe you can write your senator and ask them to implement a welfare program for these underperforming venues.
Jan. 26, 2012, 3:09 pm
Andrew says:
“Manhattan and Brooklyn accounted for the only counties in the country with a million or more people where the white share of the population rose.”

Ewwwwwww.
Jan. 26, 2012, 3:10 pm
Malembi from BK says:
Andrew-please shut the —— up.
Jan. 26, 2012, 3:13 pm
Ashley from gowanus says:
Southpaw was a cramped mess with low quality shows and a terrible atmosphere inside with little room at the bar and just a generally bad venue. It had become a relic about 5 years ago and has been losing steam steadily ever since.
Jan. 26, 2012, 3:17 pm
Allen says:
Todd Abramsom the owner of Maxwells in Hoboken, booked any show that was worth a damn at Southpaw. He left a couple years ago and started booking the Bell House. End of story. Go to Maxwells, it's the longest running, best small venue. Hands down.
Jan. 26, 2012, 6:29 pm
Evan from WT says:
Edward,

Do you remember when a few citizens from Park Slope wanted to close down Royale because black people congregated in front? It happened.

The problem with the current NYC is that everyone is the same. If you like something off-center, you will be marginalized and eventually shut down because the rents are too high. Assimilate or die.

The bookings at Southpaw weren't bad, it simply did not cater to the masses moving in from the Midwest. They want to hear Wilco and Sonic Youth dammit. Still, Southpaw could have done a better job. Royale however, was awesome.
Jan. 26, 2012, 6:59 pm
swamp yankee from long ago says:
Hopefully, it turns back into a crackhouse, just like in the good old days.
Jan. 26, 2012, 7:31 pm
swamp yankee from long ago says:
Hopefully, it turns back into a crackhouse, just like in the good old days.
Jan. 26, 2012, 7:31 pm
jyoungspirits from greenwood heights says:
If anyone believes a word that the owner has said , let me sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. Me and my wife put down 500 dollars to host my deceased childs foundation at South Paw. We have a foundation that gives music to kids who cannot afford it through scholarships and classes with music together and also do a music class in Sunset Park for those kids who would never get the chance. We also raise money for SUDC (Sudden Unexplained Death, Children) we had 5 bands from the teachers of Music Together who volunteered their time to help us in this endeavor. Everything was slated for May 6th and we have already sold tickets. South Paw never called or told us they decided to close. I found out about it here. I am in the restarant and bar business so I know he is full of it. There is not one word in his interveiw about taking care of his responsibilities, most likely his is the child ruining his business
Jan. 26, 2012, 8 pm
David from Park Slope says:
"Legendary". "Long standing"

the opened in 2001 for for god sake. Its 10 years ago. And Park Slope was the same family oriented non hip place it is now .
Jan. 26, 2012, 8:08 pm
Gaylembi from Ghetto says:
Malembi eat ——
Jan. 26, 2012, 8:36 pm
Scott from Born and raised by southpaw says:
I dunno, but Southpaw had some legendary shows (TV on the radio befr their first lp, krs one, patti smith, big daddy Kane). Say what you will about not enough white music, but park slope was a very very diverse neighborhood for a while that necessitated diverse music. This is a loss. Bell house is cool, union hall is alright, but Southpaw offered true eclectic music for weird people with affordable prices and drink for damn near ten years. Also, southpaw made it safe for the venues that exist today.
RIP
Jan. 27, 2012, 3:05 am
The Internet from Houses Racist Cowards says:
Racist cowards
Jan. 27, 2012, 3:06 am
UmadBro from Wat says:
Dear Black People

Most of the people who live in Park Slope are white. Get over it.
Jan. 27, 2012, 8:27 am
you have to much time on from your hands says:
Seriously slopers settle down. You don't need to defend your neighborhood. Your brownstone is worth 3 million and plenty of people want to move here. I liked southpaw but it seemed like half the time I walked by it would be closed. Yes they lost their booking agent to bell house and with him some of the higher profile shows from the old days but I still dug the soul shows. Even the rub was fun for a while, but I got old and it got young...such is life. When the arena, that all your whining couldnt stop, opens on flatbush you will wish that southpaw was still there to draw a young crowd in. Instead they will mill around the streets/sidewalks blocking your strollers and looking for something to do.
Jan. 27, 2012, 11:16 am
Lena from gowanus says:
oh yes, all those folks who paid the $150 for their NETS ticket will be milling around lookin for trouble after.

You do realize what a typical crowd at an NBA basketball game looks like, right? They are mostly white, and since tickets go from $75 into the thousands, it's certainly not for those wandering in off the streets looking for trouble.

It's amazing to me how many people talk out of their asses about things they know nothing about. Have you even ever BEEN to an NBA basketball game? Cause if you had, you'd know that the crowd you and the fearmongers spread is nothing like an actual crowd at one of those games. The exit door of Madison Square after a game looks like the semi annual sale at Brooks Brothers.
Jan. 27, 2012, 11:27 am
you have to much time on from your hands says:
Lena-

I go to plenty of basketball games, and yes there are a ton of rich people there. Ever sit in the cheap seats? less so. When the Brooks brothers go home to drink a scotch and ignore their wife the kids(read 18-30) will be looking to continue to celebrate after seeing a basketball game that they get the opportunity to see maybe twice a season(unlike your brooks brothers season ticket holding guy). You read looking for trouble, I wrote looking for something to do.

Its amazing to me how argumentative people want to be about things they know a little bit about....maybe its that gowanus water
Jan. 27, 2012, 11:39 am
Ina from ProspectHeights/PS border says:
The "cheap seats" at Barclays are not going to be cheap. And anyone who can afford going to sporting events is doing okay financially, in my book.

I just don't see why someone would correlate the arena with southpaw. The two are in no way related. Southpaw failed because the booker left for The bell House, and the owner was unable to bring shows that the neighborhood and surrounding areas wanted. His comments after the fact are symbolic of what little respect he had for the neighborhood in question so it's not really surprising to hear that the place is going under.

There is a piece in the NYTimes today about this and it's HILARIOUS to hear him badmouth (again) the neighborhood saying that all of the venues are no longer doing well. That's funny, since Littlefield, Bell House, Union Hall and Barbes are all doing great, in fact. It was only HIS establishment that was unable to cut it.

And please, calling a place that's been open for 10 years is considered LEGENDARY now? What a crock.
Jan. 27, 2012, 11:56 am
Julia from Sunset Park says:
I believe there would be a market for a place like Southpaw in Sunset Park. Many 20-somethings priced out of Park Slope, Greenpoint and Williamsburg do live here. The public schools in Sunset Park aren't that great, there's still lots of authentic grit, so it's not overly family-oriented.
Jan. 27, 2012, 12:28 pm
Dave says:
Does Littlefield have shows? I've only been once and I have never seen many shows booked there. And I also would not put Union Hall in the same league as Bell House, Southpaw, etc.. It is a tiny venue for mainly local bands.
Jan. 27, 2012, 12:29 pm
ivan from ps says:
Union Hall has better shows than Southpaw, doesn't matter that it's small.

Yes, Littlefield has shows, of the music and art variety.

Point is that these other places are doing well because they program what people like. Southpaw did not. If they had, they would still be around. Saying that Park Slope is "over" is the lowest common denominator response and shows immaturity on many levels.
Jan. 27, 2012, 12:36 pm
nick from ph says:
in re: artie from PH:

"That would be like me opening up a music venue in the heart of Bed Stuy and programming Norah Jones and the Decemberists."

From wikipedia:

Born in Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, New York, Jones is the daughter of Indian sitar player Ravi Shankar and American concert producer Sue Jones.

lolwat
Jan. 27, 2012, 5:49 pm
J from GH says:
Park Slope is Park Slope with all its faults. At least it knows what it is. However, Williamsburg rides on this wave of "my —— don't stink." It's a manufactured scene with terrible art and privileged kids who think they are living on the edge. Southpaw was just a terrible venue. Plain and simple. Personally, Id take a chill bar on 4th ave catching up with friends than some overpriced Williamsburg bar where everyone is trying to out art the other. Face it, you were not born during the time of edge and percolating scenes.
Jan. 27, 2012, 5:50 pm
Susan from PH says:
J from GH...

You sum it all up perfectly. Sure, Park Slope has faults, but it also shows up frequently on "best neighborhood in the city" or "10 best neighborhoods in the country" kind of lists and I won't hold my breath till Williamsburg shows up on anything like that. Williamsburg has some pretty decent bars and a handful of great restaurants but the scene is exactly as you describe it and it's not fun unless you're 22 and borderline alcoholic.
Jan. 27, 2012, 6:03 pm
Mark says:
"Point is that these other places are doing well because they program what people like."

This statement exposes one of the fundamental problems with the New New York City. If you do not cater to the mainstream, you will not last long. Gone are individual identities. You wonder why Starbucks keeps opening up new locations? Because people want Starbucks.

I can imagine Ivan from ps telling Dizzy Gillespie: "sorry you do not play music that people like", you should go back and play normal jazz."

Assimilate or die indeed. Although it appears that the owner is a douche.
Jan. 27, 2012, 6:46 pm
Spaceman from Park Slope says:
Southpaw used to employ a guy named Todd who also booked Maxwell's in Hoboken. When Southpaw's owners decided they were paying Todd too much, they let him go and the slow decline officially began. Too bad. I saw a few decent shows there. But now I'll just take my kids rock climbing instead.
Jan. 27, 2012, 7:27 pm
Ina from Zhopa says:
Gay
Jan. 27, 2012, 11:52 pm
Clarence Fruster from Park Slope says:
It is clear that The Brooklyn Paper's readership is of a uniquely prejudiced ilk. Stunning that liberal politics could so easily coincide with being openly racist. Southpaw's legacy will survive all of this, as will the Hip Hop many of these commenters have denounced, which I take pride in having booked.

I wonder who of us is courageous enough to speak on The Bowery Presents monopolizing on Inde-Rock & alternative booking making it virtually impossible to satisfy the tastes of the many dissenters below.

Also, as a Brooklynite (Yes I was born here) I must say:
Half of you dudes would never be audacious enough to say things like this to our faces, and thats the beauty of it, your cowardice renders your words meaningless.
Most of you will only be NY'ers in residence, never in spirit, we do not demean via the web, we are above that. Our city has hardened us too much for such weakness.
Jan. 28, 2012, 8:23 pm
Andrea from Park Slope says:
Suggesting the Bell House, Union Hall, Rock Shop, et al, is one thing--suggesting that Southpaw should have followed suit in their booking ambitions is another. Perhaps you should start asking yourselves why you would continue to want the SAME EXACT THING. You've already got that--give something else a shot.
Jan. 28, 2012, 9:19 pm
Tune from Leafy says:
You're all ——s
Jan. 29, 2012, 4:36 am
Chris says:
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/
Jan. 30, 2012, 12:53 pm
pauleyethnic from williamsburg says:
to mikey palms
blessing on your future projects.
i have had many amazing nights.i have seen too many mindblowing shows to mention and have great times in southpaw.mostly ,thanks for the 10 years of culture you have brought to brooklyn at southpaw and will continue to bring at other spots and events.
respect and prosperity to you bro and thanks for the memories,
pauley
Jan. 31, 2012, 6:56 pm
GrimaceNYC from EastVillage->Park Slope says:
I've gone to Southpaw here and there throughout the years and have had some amazing and fun nights there.. The Rub parties, Rich Medina spinning his soulful sets to a eclectic crowd, and seeing homegrown Brooklyn Hip-Hop acts like Black Moon and Big Daddy Kane put on amazing shows for a true mixed Brooklyn crowd. Yes the 'setup' may have been ——ty, but who cares when you're going for the music and vibe.

Bell House and the other venues mentioned do a great job booking great indy-rock bands, but unfortunately we will now be missing out on the ONE venue in the area that booked great Hip-Hop/Soulful/Dance/Funk music acts and DJ's.. Many people that read this perhaps don't care, but that is the major loss to me (and many others that aren't big commenters online). I truely hope that some of the other venues in nearby Gowanus start booking some of these other groups/DJ's that Southpaw put on...

~Grimace
Feb. 2, 2012, 12:30 pm
Monika from BedStuy says:
SOUTHPAW: The booking hasnt been very consistent these last couple of years but it had a great vibe and i always enjoyed myself there. It pre-dates the other venues and if they are better --it is because they learned what works and what doesn't from the pioneer.
That said, they weren't pioneering pioneers and they weren't legendary (CBGB's was legendary-Southpaw was an oasis in that particulatr neck of the woods for maybe 10 years?). All this ssaid, I am super bummed that it is closing. it will be missed.

ParkSlope: i have to agree that park slope has become pretty lame. it is not just that it is kiddie land these days --its that the whole spirit has gone out of the place. there is nothing even vagueing cool about it anymore. There is more diversity on the upper west side than exists anywhere in park slope. Even the restaurants have become generic. Agsin -such a bummer.

THE FUTURE: Dude--come to bed stuy/ south stuy in particular. Its AWESOME here. its edgy and cool. There is a little scene developing and a live music venue would be a game changer. Its where we moved after it was clear what was happening in park slope.

Feb. 4, 2012, 5:42 pm
Monika from BedStuy says:
whoops, should have proofread that post. Sorry for the typos.
Feb. 4, 2012, 5:43 pm
AnnieBhumble from Rugby, East Flatbush says:
As a born and bred Brooklynite the comment from Edward and Umadbro is offensive. Do you guys even know the history of Brooklyn? Blacks have settled here since 1668 and arrived with the Dutch Netherlanders. Up until the 2010 census the black population was the majority and that's being debated as many did not participate for various reasons. The West Indie Parade is still the biggest in the city and State Nevertheless the same brownstones in Parkslope exist in BedStuy, Clinton Hill, Prospect Heights and huge limestones all owned by blacks exist throughout Brooklyn. This has always been a culturally diverse borough that celebrates all music, dance and art. BAM's Dance Africa is seeing more and more white locals attending each year. Stop all the elitism it does not serve the borough well. For the implants show us some respect as we respect and love all types of music. It's amazing that you guys can embrace a white person singing soul and R&B but won't book the originators. Praying that the ratchet response, name calling and crudeness will cease.
Dec. 21, 2013, 8:48 pm

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