On the night train! Bedford L station as busy at 1 am as it is at rush hour

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Call it the hipster rush hour.

The Bedford Avenue L train station is just as jam-packed with night owls at 1 am as it with the office crowd during the dreaded weekday morning commute, a new study proves.

Carson Qing, a graduate student at New York University’s Rudin Center for Transportation Policy and Management, downloaded Metropolitan Transportation Authority data and determined that just as many people pass through the turnstiles at the bustling Williamsburg station at 1 am every day of the week and all day on Saturday as they do during the “traditional” rush hours, between 8 am and noon and 4 pm and 8 pm on weekdays.

Qing admits the late-night crush needs more research, but he believes the MTA should alter service on the L line — which has seen its ridership double since 2005 — to accommodate the throngs of straphangers if the trend continues.

“They should not treat travel demands on all lines the same,” said Qing. “The L has very unique travel patterns that should be taken into account.”

Straphanger Sir Kay — who lives off the Bedford Avenue stop, where weekend ridership has increased eight-fold since 2005 — agrees. Key gets off work at midnight and said he is often subjected to overcrowded trains in the wee hours.

“If I miss the train, it’s another 15 minutes standing on the platform with a couple hundred other people,” said the 27-year-old.

Trains run at 20-minute intervals on the L train at night, allowing for workers to perform necessary maintenance, according to the MTA.

Agency spokesman Kevin Ortiz said transit experts must conduct more studies before determining if changes are warranted — but he said it’s clear ridership on the L is going to continue to increase.

“Our ops planning department has and will continue to study ridership patterns, but it’s no secret the L is seeing higher ridership — that’s why we added trains in June,” said Ortiz, whose agency recently started running an additional 98 weekly round-trips on the L train, including 16 new jaunts each weekday, 11 out-and-backs on Saturdays, and seven journeys on Sundays.

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Updated 9:30 am, February 20, 2013
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Reasonable discourse

manposeur from brokelyn says:
If Greenpoint Landing gets built they will need more trains on both G & L. Or perhaps if the MTA can muster a few billion, consdier building another line in the area.
Feb. 20, 2013, 9:10 am
diehipster from Hanging Haydens says:
Of course its packed at 1 am with hipsters! Nobody "really" works. They don't have to wake up early. Nowhere to be. Rent, party supplies, food all paid for via the Bank of Wisconsin. Bike riding at 1pm. Sitting in coffee shops at 3pm. But then when night comes they go out exploring Nieuw Breukelen and the Village - like yah. Eating grass fed meatballs; having small-batch mast brother chocolate infused whiskey; sustainable cupcakes; locally chilled PBR etc.

What would be hysterical is to pack an entire train with Ethans, Logans, kyles, xanders, hailys, mollys, and Tobys and shut the doors and express it to canarsie at 2am and let them out - Welcome to Brooklyn!!!!
Feb. 20, 2013, 9:56 am
Johnny Hammersticks from Brooklyn says:
They want extra trains for the hipsters? Sure, have the city spend hundreds of thousands of dollars a year so a bunch of losers who migrated from the Midwest can go drink all night. Maybe these ——ing drains on society should focus on something helpful to the public, like improving their personal hygiene. Instead of the city providing extra trains, they should provide the schmucks some Irish Spring.
Feb. 20, 2013, 10:30 am
Q from Bay Ridge says:

Toughen up. Dont like it? Then take a bus or a cab. Track work NEEDS to be done to maintain the tracks. But as always, instead of dealing with the fact that their commute home at 1am is gonna suck, as it does for ALL of NYC and the surrounding burroughs, why not cry about it, like they do everything else.

Guess what, people? Life isn't always fair. There are 9,000, 000 people in this city, and, believe it or not, not everyone can be catered to. Dont like it? Tough. Thats life. Adapt.
Feb. 20, 2013, 10:52 am
Joe from PH says:
The people you are denouncing are residents of our city just like you and me. You are no better because you sit in a cubicle for 8 hours a day. You are no better because you think Canarsie is cool and Williamsburg is bad. You are no better than anyone just because you think you are. These folks dine in restaurants, buy groceries and drink at bars which all help to support our economy. If you truly think that there are enough Wisconsin parents paying 800k for 1 bedroom apartments, you're clueless. Brooklyn is filled with 2.5 million people from all over, doing all sorts of amazing things and creating a vibrancy that I haven't seen in Brooklyn in decades. For the first time in a long time, people want to come visit us and sometimes even want to stay and make a life here. And for that, you criticize, act childish and make waaaah wahhhh sounds as if you're some 12 year old girl. It's pretty sad how backwards some Brooklyn folks are. Like backwater backwards from the days of Archie Bunker.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:03 am
ty from pps says:
It seems pretty clear that diehipster, Johnny Hammersticks and Q has a very abusive upbringing. It's sad that they have to lash out at others rather than deal with their own issues. Perhaps they'll find help one day.

Quote from diehipster: "The truth is, I simply can’t take these people anymore – to the point that I don’t even want to write about them on a regular basis. It’s too depressing, nauseating, and aggravating."

So, constantly commenting on every single story that vaguely has the whiff of 'hipster' is not writing about them on a regular basis?! Do you also think about hipsters when you masturbate?
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:04 am
Johnny Hammersticks from Brooklyn says:
Well said Q. Unfortunately all these losers have that liberal mentality where everything needs to be handed to them, all the while they contribute nothing back to society except a stupid roof top Kale garden. And the only time they see running water is when they water the damn thing.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:05 am
Johnny Hammersticks from Brooklyn says:
Lets get one thing straight Joe. Buying Venti Mocha Latte Deuchecinnos for $7 at Starbucks isn't helping the local economy. Neither is buying fruit from a non-profit food co-op. Try shopping at a mom and pop grocery, the same people who built these neighborhoods you're helping ruin. Hipsters are the ones ruining the economy. You're the one causing prices in certain neighborhoods to skyrocket, forcing long time residents and business to get priced out. People are losing more than they're gaining now.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:14 am
ty from pps says:
Hmmm, Johnny.... "all the while they contribute nothing back to society"

I wonder what you contribute to society that is so damn wonderful? Why do I have a feeling the answer is nothing special.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:16 am
Q from Bay Ridge says:
These replies have little to do with the orinal artical, or the first 3 replies. The article focuses on, what I consider, further proof of a cry baby generation. I find it comical. There are no abusive upbringings, only Brooklyn upbringings. Used to mean, if you were from NYC, you could deal with anything. Now, it seems to mean, you cant deal with anything without crying. Grow up, man up, toughen up, and deal with it.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:16 am
ty from pps says:
Wow, Johnny... you're a douchebag AND ignorant. What a great combination.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:17 am
ty from pps says:
Q -- That's awesome. I'm glad to hear everyone where you live is Brooklyn tough. The MTA can stop worrying about improving service in the N, R and D lines. You're tough. Deal with it.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:27 am
Johnny Hammersticks from Brooklyn says:
Ty, I can promise you one thing, and that is that I have gone above and beyond for society. My life has been dedicate to this society. And that's what is so infuriating, that there's a portion of our society that feels the need to be coddled, ignorant to all the real world issues surrounding them.

You have men and women living in tents in 120 degree weather fighting in Afghanistan for the right for you to dress like an —— and be a vegan, and for my right to make fun of you for it. But you all want to complain about waiting fr a train for 20 minutes. Get a grip on reality. Please.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:27 am
Q from Bay Ridge says:
N, R, and D service coulndt get much worse. Yeah, I deal with it.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:31 am
ty from pps says:
Oh, Johnny, give me an 'effing break. And I'm so very sure your life has been dedicated to this society... your comments really reflect a true love for your fellow man.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:33 am
Johnny Hammersticks from Brooklyn says:
There's people that still don't have homes since the hurricane. BUT......

Waaaaaaaaaah. I waited for the train last night....waaaaaaaaaah. I have real world problems... WAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

Grow up, take a shower and get a job, tools.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:36 am
Q from Bay Ridge says:
Yea Johnny, stop being a meanie! HAHAHAHA
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:37 am
Q from Bay Ridge says:
To quote Tina Tuner, what's love got to do with it?
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:43 am
ty from pps says:
Funny, Johnny, that you bring up the hurricane... Can't help notice how many of your cursed hipsters were on the front lines of the relief effort after Sandy. When I dropped off food at the distribution center in Red Hook, that place was absolutely overrun with hipsters volunteering. Aaaaack! What horrible vermin, right?

And you're right. Folks who are dealing with storm damage, waiting for scummy insurance companies is definitely a reason for the rest of the city to stop. Why are they collecting garbage in Tribeca when there are people without (their own) homes since the hurricane!

Hey, Johnny. There are people without homes -- period. How many of the folks displaced by Sandy are actually homeless -- without shelter? Get a grip.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:43 am
Johnny Hammersticks from Brooklyn says:
The fact that you consider those pricks from Occupy Wall Street helping at the hurricane as service is a joke. It's also an embarrassment to the word service. Occupy Wall Street is everything that is wrong with society, and the fact that they organized down in red hook but ignored all the other areas of the city is a true testament to what they're all about. Just help out each other, leave everyone else out. It was also a ploy for good publicity because no one takes them seriously as a movement. Too bad the hurricane didn't sweep them out to sea. Occupy=Embarrassment.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:50 am
ty from pps says:
Right. I see. And the thousands of families fed weeks until power was restored is meaningless. I see.

I don't recall anything about Occupy Wall Street, but I do recall a mountain of hot and cold food and a line of families wrapping around the block. All being fed by friendly, hard-working volunteers.
Feb. 20, 2013, 12:02 pm
diehipster from R E A L Brooklyn says:

I seriously picture you sitting there with your thick frames, MacBook, beansprout and tofu sandwich with oxygen flavored artisanal mayo and an entire broomstick shoved up your ass. You are wound so tightly like a little b*itch. You know those dirty looks real Brooklynites give you? Yeah those; may they continue for the rest of your Brooklyn play date you effin nasally interloping maggot. Incredible how you sit there all day answering every hipster put-down or real Brooklynite opinion - every last one. Remember, you are hated.
Feb. 20, 2013, 12:05 pm
ty from pps says:
"the fact that they organized down in red hook but ignored all the other areas of the city is a true testament to what they're all about. Just help out each other, leave everyone else out."

What does that even mean?!
Feb. 20, 2013, 12:05 pm
ty from pps says:
diehipster -- I'm not even a hipster. But don't let that stop you. I know how deeply committed you are to spewing hatred about everyone that isn't exactly like you -- but you have your fans of fellow knuckle draggers.

I just find your "kind" to be the scum of the earth and the reason why Brooklyn is still behind the curve compared to most other western cities of this size.
Feb. 20, 2013, 12:09 pm
ty from pps says:
And, diehipster -- Why don't you just start up your dumb blog again. It seems you haven't gotten it out of your system yet.

Again, Quote from diehipster: "The truth is, I simply can’t take these people anymore – to the point that I don’t even want to write about them on a regular basis. It’s too depressing, nauseating, and aggravating."

You must be so nauseated.
Feb. 20, 2013, 12:14 pm
Q from Bay Ridge says:

What westen cities are close to the size of Brooklyn. Brooklyn falls behind LA and Chicago for largest population, and it doesn't stand as its own city. It is a borough of NYC. There is no curve to be behind.
Feb. 20, 2013, 12:21 pm
"Interloper" from Kent Ave says:
diehipster's got his panties in a bunch because somebody spilled fair trade coffee on his favorite pair of overalls this morning. It happened when he was walking out of his sub-level apartment under his grandma's place. He was going to re-apply to a new opening for a mail sorter position at the post office. His last job as a sanitation worker didn't exactly pan out.
Feb. 20, 2013, 12:43 pm
hey from - says:
there is no crying here, just a display of the facts. any transportation provider tries to provide services where people are riding, and this highlights that the MTA has yet to consider what actual travel patterns are like on the L. everyone calm down.
Feb. 20, 2013, 1:08 pm
AZ from Midtown says:
What a surprise, the Bedford station is hopping at 1am because of the over-saturation of trustafarians. Must be hard to wait another twenty minutes for a train after yet another weeknight out on Daddy's dime. Deal with it. The MTA has plenty of problems to address, and Williamsburg isn't the center of the city, despite what some of its more self-absorbed residents may believe.
Feb. 20, 2013, 1:11 pm
Transplant from Here to stay says:
Biggest troll on here is the BK Paper itself. What do hipsters have to do with any of this? Oh, it's the L train, so it has to be that. What a rag. Is really worth the traffic from the bitter crowd that lives off their bogus disability claims? I guess if you look at the banner ads it all makes sense. Can we look forward to more ads from Heaven by Russo? It looks like a place you may run into VH1's Mob Wives.
Feb. 20, 2013, 1:43 pm
Mike from Williamsburg says:
It's absolutely astounding that "increased ridership might be a reason to increase the number of trains" is controversial. smh
Feb. 20, 2013, 2:01 pm
Chris from Bushwick says:
Have to agree with Transplant here. The study was released two weeks ago, and Brooklyn Paper just wrote about it now? Guess there wasn't enough news this week to slip in a jab at the overused, ill-defined "hipster" stereotype otherwise.
Feb. 20, 2013, 2:06 pm
Raine from Oregon says:
Ive been thinking of moving my craft business to Brooklyn - I hear it's a vibrant location where up and coming artists can thrive and feel a real communal vibe. I just don't know if it's worth it - waiting long for a train to come and potentially running into one of those icky locals. But please, if anyone can gather about 1000 of those Metrocard thingies and send them to me, I will make a sculpture with them in honor of Williamsburg creativity and pioneer for a better Brooklyn - even if I never move there to make things better.
Feb. 20, 2013, 2:15 pm
Q from Bay Ridge says:
Dont like crowds? Take a cab. Dont like missing a train? Buy a watch and know the schedule.
Feb. 20, 2013, 2:19 pm
Joe from PH says:
Now that Diehipster, Johnny and Q have been typing away furiously for the past 6 hours about their hatred of hipsters, we know who the real douchebags are here sitting at their computers all day with nothing better to do.

Feb. 20, 2013, 3:13 pm
lisa from ss says:
not only do those 3 (ignorant) stooges post on this thread all day, but any thread that mentions the word hipsters gets them riled up for hours on end, posting the sane inane bantor. don't feed the trolls and maybe they'll go away. the old brooklyn farts will die off soon and we'll be left with a much more peaceful brooklyn full of people who have graduated high school, can speak in full sentences and don't use the N word like it's an everyday activity.
Feb. 20, 2013, 3:27 pm
Q from Bay Ridge says:
Gotta love union work and smartphones. Makes commenting real easy! Hahaha
Feb. 20, 2013, 3:38 pm
Richard Grayson from Williamsburg says:
All that should be considered in transit changes is the number of people using various stations and lines, just the number. Everything else is irrelevant, of interest only to bigots.
Feb. 20, 2013, 3:44 pm
Ray from WT says:
Union workers are blowhards. It all makes sense now. They belittle the 20 something trying to make it in a new city, but their bloated paychecks paid for by taxpayers who ACTUALLY work hard for a living are okay as long as they have time to sit and —— and whine all day long.

Union worker whining > hipster whining.
Feb. 20, 2013, 3:44 pm
Q from Bay Ridge says:
Look at you, stereotyping like a champ. I'm proud of you.
Feb. 20, 2013, 3:45 pm
Zane from Lower East New York, Brooklyn says:
Ive waited like, like a looooong time, about 14 months for trains to take me to my up and coming nabe. I'm all for cleverly excavating indigenous people at all costs. This nabe needs more art and also more art.
Feb. 20, 2013, 3:50 pm
Q from Bay Ridge says:
Ahhh Ray. Nothing more evil than the blue collar worker who gets paid a living wage. Harldy call getting paid according to cost of living "bloated". Want job security? Want medical coverage? Want a pay scale in line with how much it costs to live? Want fair treatment from your employer. Then go union! You don't know what you're missing! I may never be rich, but I will never be poor
Feb. 20, 2013, 4:03 pm
Your Router from says:
I hate you. All of you.
Feb. 20, 2013, 4:11 pm
Johnny Hammersticks from Brooklyn says:
Yea. Unions suck, right?

Unions are what built this country. Unions are what got people fair pay and health benefits. I'll continue to work hard, you all continue to be starving artists, working your one day a month to be a member at a food co-op, and waiting for Obama care to kick in. Losers. All this coming from people who haven't worked a day in their lives.

And Lisa, I had something really nasty to say to you, but I've been talked out of saying it. Either way, keep enjoying living your life as a fat, virgin kuntrag.
Feb. 20, 2013, 4:15 pm
Northside Ned from GPT says:
These bloated townie slob "natives" need to get it over with already and move to Florida. Beat it you useless pigs.
Feb. 20, 2013, 4:21 pm
Q from Bay Ridge says:
Lmfao your name is Ned
Feb. 20, 2013, 4:23 pm
Johnny Hammersticks from Brooklyn says:
Lets play a game of jeopardy:

Alex: Remeber to answer in the form of a question. Good luck, Johnny, the board is yours.

Johnny: I'll take Hipsters suck for 1000.

Alex: The answer is: An American hipster name given to people who's greatest sexual experience was walking in on their mom in the shower....

Johnny: What is Ned?

Alex: Correct.
Feb. 20, 2013, 4:28 pm
Northside Ned from GPT says:
Florida= America's trash can

So you townies can pack up your 42 inch waist jeans, Sunday gravy, stained wifebeaters, and all three generations of your family living in your rent controlled apartment, and get to steppin.
Feb. 20, 2013, 4:35 pm
Q from Bay Ridge says:
Ahhh Ned. Without your hated "townies", there wouldn't be anyone to build or maintain the condos you sublet and squeeze 30 other mutants into? Who is going to fix your plumbing after you clog your toilets from the drugs you had to flush? Who will put out the fires started after falling asleep with your American Spirit still burning? Who will arrest the criminal who stole your iProduct? Who will clean your streets to take away the mountains of garbage your "self-sustaining" lifestyle? Who will keep your electric running? Phones connected? Water cleaned? Who will deliver your locally grown and harvested products from the farm to you co-op?

Bloated, townie, union workers. Thats who.

Now get a job.
Feb. 20, 2013, 4:40 pm
Johnny Hammersticks from Brooklyn says:
I'm 32 years old with a 33 inch waist. I don't eat gravy on only Sundays, I don't like the way wife beaters make my nipples chafe so I don't wear them. I only have 1 generation living in my 3 bedroom house.

And what any of that has to do with Florida, I will never understand.

Now Ned, be a good boy and go back to getting sodomized by your step father.
Feb. 20, 2013, 4:46 pm
Northside Ned from GPT says:
You have a point. Uneducated townie union slobs can stay in South Brooklyn and Staten Island. But try to make yourself scarce. You're eyesores, and lower property values.
Feb. 20, 2013, 4:46 pm
Johnny Hammersticks from Brooklyn says:
I lower property values? You'd get laughed out of any real estate agent in my neighborhood. You couldn't touch a house in southern Brooklyn. You're living in a railroad apartment with 6 other inbred pricks with terrible fashion sense.
Feb. 20, 2013, 4:53 pm
Ian from southbrooklynsucks says:
South brooklyn is garbage.

Born and raised there and the men are PIGS. Racist, jackass pigs with little education.

You are witnessing them in all their glory here on this board.

Happily in a more civilized area of Brooklyn now enjoying my million dollar condo (paid for by my own hard work) tattoos, food co-op and all!
Feb. 20, 2013, 5:02 pm
lez from behonest says:
should have known, the unions get off work at 5pm. they're done for now till they get home to sit in front of the tv for the rest of the night, one hand on their cheap heineken, the other down their pants.
Feb. 20, 2013, 5:34 pm
Q from Bay Ridge says:
Yup. We even get to do crazy things, like take care of our families, keep them healthy, and pay our bills! We truly are awful.
Feb. 20, 2013, 5:48 pm
JAY from NYC says:
wow its a whole bunch of people talking like Tal the bigot!!! Just replace the word hipster or union etc with black, indian, gay, dyke, paki, or what ever other hate word you use, and its all the same thing.
There are a lot of Jews who live in williamsburg, so maybe its because of them that more trains are needs, so please, start bashing jews then and see how long it take for you a-hats to get sued, and deservedly so.
There are a lot of blacks who live there as well, maybe they are using the train more, wanna start throwing around the N word on here you keyboard cowards?
The message board has become are bad as the Craigslist rant section, and you posters need to stop and take a look at yourself you are shameful, shameful shameful.
And Shame on the Brooklyn paper for promoting this kind of crap, you are in violation of your own message boards stated policy.
Feb. 20, 2013, 6:33 pm
John Wasserman from Windsor Terrace says:
Pardon the interruption, but is someone able to recommend a place to get an above average steak and cheese in the Prospect Heights area? You seem to all be very well informed, and I wouldn't ask otherwise. Thank you in advance.
Feb. 20, 2013, 7:03 pm
Caleb from Billyburg says:
What would Lena Dunham do?
Feb. 20, 2013, 7:58 pm
ty from pps says:
Q -- funny comment... "Who is going to fix your plumbing after you clog your toilets" I've known many many plumbers who are douchebag, ignorant townies like you. You can be a plumber or have any job and not be a closed-minded, juvenile idiot like you, Q. But maybe you'll figure that out when you get a little older.
Feb. 20, 2013, 8:35 pm
ty from pps says:
Edit: I've known many many plumbers who are NOT douchebag, ignorant townies like you. (whoops)
Feb. 20, 2013, 10:20 pm
Honnah from Bushwick says:
What would Heeb magazine tell me to do?
Feb. 20, 2013, 10:24 pm
Jim from Cobble Hill says:
People out spending money is good, no matter who they are. The fact is that since the days of Robert Moses our City has been slowly strangled by unsustainable highways and shrinking subways. Even Mayor Moneybags has to realize that the lifeblood of Manhattan depends on the ability of us peasants to get there from our B&T hovels.

Extending the G train into Manhattan crosstown on 23rd street in the same way the L traverses 14th street would be a great way to fix things (or a great start at least) but until we start executing crooked politicians and the buttlicker appointees, that's never going to happen.
Feb. 20, 2013, 11:29 pm
Homey from Crooklyn says:
Heh heh, whenever Danielle puts the hipster word into one of her stories, it's time to rumble.
Now THAT'S entertainment...
Feb. 21, 2013, 10:10 am
John Wasserman from Windsor Terrace says:
Although nobody had any suggestions for me (that's okay) I did manage to find a decent streak and cheese sandwhich last night. Pardon the interuption.
Feb. 21, 2013, 1:56 pm

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