Human remains inside Prison Ship memorial only hope for ‘national monument’

Throwing them a bone: Human remains inside Prison Ship memorial may be only hope for ‘national monument’

National treasure: The Prison Ship Martyrs Monument in Fort Greene Park, pictured here with America’s most famous federal park ranger, Ranger Smith.
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It’s a grave situation!

The human remains inside the Prison Ship Martyrs’ Monument in Fort Greene Park might be the iconic structure’s only shot a becoming a national monument, according to federal officials.

The 109-year-old memorial — which commemorates the thousands who died in British prison ships in New York Harbor during the Revolutionary War, and still contains some of their bones — was already evaluated as a national historic landmark 30 years ago, but came up short because nothing very important happened there, National Parks Service reps told locals at a meeting on Tuesday.

But, they added, they do sometimes make exceptions for sites that contain dead people if they’re particularly good-looking graves.

“There are cemeteries and grave sites that have met the criteria, but they’re exceptions and they have to be outstanding examples of what in this case might be the architectural components of the site,” said National Parks Service planner Amanda Jones.

The service is nevertheless doing a new study on the memorial’s eligibility as a national monument because Congress ordered one at the behest of Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D–Clinton Hill), and the spokespeople held the meeting on Tuesday to let locals know what it would entail.

A worthy monument must meet four criteria — national significance, suitability, feasibility, and a need for National Parks Service management, they said.

So the fact that federal officials have already decided that the towering tribute at the center of Fort Greene Park is not significant doesn’t bode well — although the previous landmark review only took a quick look at the memorial, while this one will delve deeper, Jones said.

“When it was looked at before, it wasn’t a formal survey,” she said.

Meeting attendees balked at the idea that the memorial might not be considered worthy, with one history buff pointing out that its crypt was designed by renowned landscape architects Frederick Law Olmstead and Calvert Vaux of Prospect Park fame, while the rest was the work of famed Beaux-Arts architect Stanford White, who also designed the Washington Square arch.

“It is probably the one place you’d be able to commemorate the conjunction of the developers and architect, and I think that gives the site an added significan­ce,” he said.

Plus, Fort Greene Park was an actual fort during the war, locals noted — although the investigators can only examine the monument itself, and not the park around it, according to Jones.

National monuments can also be created through a presidential proclamation, and several people asked if it is possible to urge President Trump to single out the memorial as a national monument if the study doesn’t work out.

The reps danced around the question and merely told them that the proclamation process is usually a “grassroots process.”

But residents might soon find themselves writing to the White House, anyway — the parks service has conducted 32 studies into potential national parks at the request of Congress since 2009, and not a single one has resulted in a new designation, according to spokeswoman Ellen Carlson.

The Fort Greene study is expected to take 18 months if all of the criteria is evaluated, and could then sit in Congress for another year or two before lawmakers decide what to do next, according to Jones.

You can follow the study’s progress at

Reach reporter Lauren Gill at or by calling (718) 260–2511. Follow her on Twitter @laurenk_gill
Updated 10:17 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Abe Woodhull from Setauket says:
Very respectful headline and article. Student newspaper maturity level.
Feb. 2, 2017, 11:20 am
stan chaz from Greenpoint says:
"Grave situation" indeed.

These thousands of American revolutionary soldiersn / prisoners of war that are commemorated here died a slow and horrible death in the holds of British prison ships anchored in the nearby harbor.

This remark is typical of the insensitive and childish blurbs & attempts at "humor" that also grace some of your your paper's crime stories
Feb. 2, 2017, 11:41 am
stan chaz from Greenpoint says:
"Throwing them a bone"- you should be ashamed of yourself!
Feb. 2, 2017, 11:48 am
hatrasfevr says:
Just what we need ....... more land, monuments, historical parks, scenic byways, scenic rivers for NPS to administer with no money and a $13B maintenance backlog.
Feb. 2, 2017, 12:49 pm
Mr. Ranger says:
If Abe and Stan were not Revolutionary War veterans themselves, I would suggest that they get some perspective.
Feb. 2, 2017, 1:38 pm
Abe Woodhull from Setauket says:
I suggest Mr. Ranger read some history if he doesn't know my record of service to the nation.
Feb. 2, 2017, 2:13 pm
Mr. Ranger says:
What? I wasn't specific enough? I referred to you as a Revolutionary War veteran. You wanted me to say spy? Or did you want me to mention that you married your cousin? Kinky, broheim!
Feb. 2, 2017, 4:57 pm
Abe Woodhull from Setauket says:
She wasn't my cousin. She was my late brother's fiance.
Feb. 2, 2017, 7:25 pm
ANGRBODA from Bay Ridge says:
The first time the BP posted this story a week ~ a week ago: 'why the hell did they impose some idiotic cartoon character over the photo' -this was never done before.
@ Ranger: looks like the only thing you fk'g learned in college was snark.
Use your internet connection and educate yourself before deciding to verbally defecate.
Look up HMS New Jersey.
Same for the 'hip' editorial staff: ask yourself if the ~ 10K who died like animals in this ship, with their bones washing-up on the shore for years afterwards, warrants such a disrespectful headline or fck'g cartoon.
Clearly there's no connection between the people killed in that War, and your freedom to publish your 'journalism', right?
Feb. 5, 2017, 9:43 am
Abe Woodhull from Setauket says:
Well put Angrboda.
Feb. 5, 2017, 10:43 pm
Mr. Ranger says:
Many years ago, a roommate of mine observed, "Everyone thinks Howard Stern is hilarious until he makes fun of people like them." This is the newspaper that featured a masturbating walrus and works as much wordplay into its stories as it can. That's all well and good until it comes to the current topic; then the ire of the super-patriots knows no bounds. As you guys know probably better than most, the Prison Ship Martyrs have suffered far worse indignities than this story. It's not that you lack perspective; it's that you are only capable of one.
Feb. 6, 2017, 10:33 am
Abe Woodhull from Setauket says:
Only juvenile young men ever found Howard Stern funny.
Feb. 7, 2017, 8:09 am
Mr. Ranger says:
Right. That is why he lasted 20 years on nationally syndicated radio in 60 markets and had, at his highest popularity, 20 million listeners, followed by another two decades on satellite radio. It was because his appeal was limited to juvenile young men.
Feb. 8, 2017, 10:11 am

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