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Raccoons in Brooklyn

Greenwood Heights pushes for policy change as vermin population grows

The Brooklyn Paper

Greenwood Heights residents say the raccoon population in their neighborhood is growing so quickly that the city must alter its vermin policy and begin trapping and removing the trash-pillaging critters.

The number of raccoons has surged near Prospect Park and Green-Wood Cemetery due to a warm spring, according to neighbors who say the masked bandits topple garbage cans, dent property, and break into homes in search of snacks.

But Brooklynites who are angry about the infestation must trap the creatures themselves — or spend hundreds of dollars hiring a private company — because Animal Care & Control, a non-profit working under a city contract, refuses to remove raccoons unless they are deemed dangerous, sick, or hurt.

That’s why concerned Greenwoodsmen have launched a letter-writing campaign urging City Council to change the city’s critter protocol to require the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene to trap raccoons.

“You go outside expecting to see one — and there’s a family of five or six,” said neighbor Aaron Brashear. “They’re beyond a nuisance.”

He said the aggressive urban critters spread trash across entire blocks and leave behind piles of poop that host parasitic roundworms.

Neighbors have tried everything to get rid of the clever creatures: double-bagging garbage cans, buying electric fences, and using expensive pest sprays.

“These suckers are smart — smart to the point where we’ve had to buy all new trash cans with locking lids because they’ve figure out how to use their ‘hands’ to open the lids,” said neighbor Ryan Powers.

Another neighbor, Frances Batista, said the animals wake her up at 3:30 am and once managed to knock over a heavy planter.

“We need some sort of control,” she said.

They hope to see it in the form of a Department of Health and Mental Hygiene task force that would trap and release the raccoons.

It’s not the first time neighbors have sought a raccoon-related policy change. Last summer, state Sen. Tony Avella (D–Queens) introduced legislation requiring the same city agency “to remove any raccoon upon request from a member of the public” — but the bill has sat in limbo for over a year.

A spokeswoman from the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene could not be reached for comment on Thursday or Friday — but an agency source previously told The Brooklyn Paper that if a resident “considers a raccoon on their property to be a nuisance, they should contact a licensed private trapper to remove it,” or call 911 if the animal appears dangerous.

Reach reporter Natalie O'Neill at noneill@cnglocal.com or by calling her at (718) 260-4505.

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Jane from Where you're not says:
Lets exterminate every last bit of wildlife left! We have a right to do so! Our feelings take precedence over some thing with barely a brain! We don't want rabies do we? Do you? What if a precious child gets bitten! Look, it's not about their right to be free, it's about our divine right to watch Girls in peace! I don't hate raccoons, but I care a lot more about my family! Oh, do you wear leather? Ok so then what are you talking about? You know how many times my son likes to go outside and play with raccoon poop? He could eat it and die!! Does the city want to be responsible for that? Wake up Mayor Bloomberg!
July 16, 2012, 9:38 am
tony says:
Kill everything! Destroy every living thing!
July 16, 2012, 9:56 am
o3 from BK says:
racoons have no predators in cities. since garbage is a unending food supply, they are controlled w traps & can be relocated. we now return you to too-far-fm-the-food-chain programming....
July 16, 2012, 10:13 am
Or from Yellow Hook says:
Right Jane!

Let's re-introduce coyotes - that will solve the racoon and goose population, and take care of some of the stray dogs.
July 16, 2012, 10:16 am
Mike from Williamsburg says:
Coyotes are reintroducing themselves.
July 16, 2012, 11:03 am
CCGH from Greenwood heights says:
Thanks to the BP for running this story. For a response to today's article from the CCGH, go here: http://bit.ly/Q2eXiS
July 16, 2012, 11:06 am
Jessica from Brooklyn Heights says:
I am disgusted with the way they want to kill off every last bit of wildlife. They have no where else to go as we keep painting them into a corner.

Get over it people. Leave them be.
July 16, 2012, 11:50 am
Aaron from Greenwood Heights says:
Jessica,

It's not kill off, it's cull the invasive raccoons who have become way to comfy with the human neighbors. They're many-many raccoons in Prospect Park, Green-Wood and other green spaces in the area that do not cause such havoc, damage and disease. I time comes that there's a tipping point, and yes we helped make it, where hard choice need to be made. We just wish the City would have some involvement in the matter and not leave it up to every day taxpayers to become raccoon experts, frustrated ones at that.
July 16, 2012, 12:30 pm
K. from ArKady says:
We have raccoons. They live in one of our Doug Fir trees. Rarely do we see them, although the cat is well aware of their comings and goings. I first suspected their presence when the cat's water dish would be filled with mud in the morning. It took me a few minutes to put together the fact that a raccoon was washing it's food in the dish. It probably came by for the few kibbles remaining in the other bowl, and kept coming for the water (it's a little dry here now). I found the tree looking for traces of scat and tracks at the base. That's about the extent of the damage they do to our place. And you need to kill them all? Jesus, what a bunch of bloodthirsty fools. Can you not abide _any_ living thing other than the talking monkey? Why are you so afraid of wildlife? Believe me, you have far more to fear from each other, given your attitudes towards other living things.

I sit here now, and monarch butterflies flutter by mixing with the hummingbird couples feeding on the fragrant lillies and other summer flowers blooming in great profusion on this cool summer's day here in ArKady ( we've yet to hit 85F ). It's hard to imagine why you'd want to pave over it all for a place to park your cars, but I lived in Brooklyn for some 20 years so I know all too well the degradation of spirit that leads to that awful outlook. So perhaps it's best if you remain terrified and stay put. I'd hate to have you come here and ruin this paradise too.
July 16, 2012, 5:25 pm
Or from Yellow Hook says:
When your cat has to be put down for rabies, you'll understand.
July 16, 2012, 9:13 pm
K. from ArKady says:
Cat doesn't go up in that tree, and we keep him indoors at night because we don't need to "reintroduce" coyotes here. A big pack of them come down the street right around midnight at certain times of the year. First time I heard them, I could swear the local kids were imitating an indian war party. I rather like them, despite the fact that they'd have my cat for breakfast if they possibly could. They bagged a rogue rooster that took up residence around the mailboxes at the head of the road. That poor devil would stand in the middle of the road at daybreak and crow his beak off. Needless to say, he didn't last too long... All that was left was a trail of feathers leading into the blackberry bushes.

But really, we do this thing called vaccination with our pets, have you heard of it?
July 16, 2012, 10:07 pm
K. from ArKady says:
Also, if you really think the coyotes would materially affect the raccoon population, you know very little about raccoons. At the moment, they seem to hold the upper hand in Brooklyn (grin). Unlike the geese, they'll prove a tougher animal to vanquish. I mean, we've got plenty of both here, coyote and raccoon. I doubt there's a lot of interaction.
July 16, 2012, 10:15 pm
Or from Yellow Hook says:
But really, we do this thing called vaccination with our pets, have you heard of it?

Yes. You're fine then.

So is your cat.

Varmints are just misunderstood.
July 16, 2012, 10:25 pm
K. from ArKady says:
You're right. I mean, back in the old nabe, kids would end up shot on my stoop. But jesus man, raccoons!?!?!?! They're gonna GIT YOU OR!!!!!!!!! KILL 'EM ALL!!!!!!
July 17, 2012, 12:31 am
Save, don't destroy says:
The less humans, the better. We're the ones over populating the area and living as unnatural as a creature can live. We talk the green, but don't walk the green - we need to see our earth as something we can live with, including the living things. Here we have one of the most fascinating, intelligent and adorable land mammals, willing to put up with our abnormal lives, and all we can do is think of how to destroy them? Not very creative. How about teaching your children how to coexist with them, where caution and respect should be applied. Then you'll be doing justice to our little masked friends and our children alike. And if you really want to make it safer for your kids, don't drive - it will be safer for them and the raccoon's alike. When I was a kid, I used to leave the food scraps out for the raccoon's - seemed like a lot better way of getting rid of our leftover - and they never went into our garbage pails - perhaps it was common respect.
July 17, 2012, 12:38 am
fatimah from cobble hill says:
Raccoons are not vermin. They are animals. Daniel Boone wore one on his head.
July 17, 2012, 5:23 am
joe from not greenwood hgts says:
There is no suck area in Brooklyn called Greenwood Hgts oh I forgot it's sounds better with a Hgts following it and the new-comers wont know...double the rent fools....
July 17, 2012, 5:44 am
rocky from the treehole says:
We will poop on the graves of self centered humans
July 17, 2012, 8:56 am
JAY from Pslope says:
you want wildlife, then go live upstate or in Wyoming, this is a city and things like racoons are a problem in the city, they are disease vectors and that is fact.
July 17, 2012, 12:52 pm
K. from ArKady says:
The only disease vector you need worry about it yourselves. From 1990-2003, there was 1 case of rabies contracted in NY state, and 0 cases in NYC. Compare this to say, TB, with 680 cases reported in NYC in 2011 alone. It's clear what the disease vector is. The question is, do we gas or trap?
July 17, 2012, 1:23 pm
Bob DePugh from Mi says:
The question is, do we gas or trap?

Deport.

What did you leave out of the report?
July 17, 2012, 2:10 pm
Betty from Brooklyn says:
K. from Arkady- I like You!
I've got a raccoon in my yard from time to time as well- same thing they wash their food in my little fountain.

Other than that - nuthin'! You've got to keep your trash in secure cans, don't leave food out, keep your doors and windows secure as well.

It's urban wildlife, people- where do you expect them to go? There is no land left for THEM.

Co-exist is what I say. learn to live with them.
July 17, 2012, 2:39 pm
Z from Bay Ridge says:
Thank you K and Betty :)
you guys are right on.

Think about it, what is being proposed to be done to the poor racoons is what settlers did to the Indians when they first came to America. Relocate and/or exterminate, because we don't want you here.
July 17, 2012, 4:13 pm
Z from Bay Ridge says:
Thank you K and Betty :)
you guys are right on.

Think about it, what is being proposed to be done to the poor racoons is what settlers did to the Indians when they first came to America. Relocate and/or exterminate, because we don't want you here.
July 17, 2012, 4:13 pm
Z from Bay Ridge says:
Thank you K and Betty :)
you guys are right on.

Think about it, what is being proposed to be done to the poor racoons is what settlers did to the Indians when they first came to America. Relocate and/or exterminate, because we don't want you here.
July 17, 2012, 4:13 pm
Z from Bay Ridge says:
oops! sorry I didn't mean to this to be posted 3 times.
July 17, 2012, 4:14 pm
JAY from PSLOPE says:
no place left for them? That is really funny, how do you figure? There is HUGE amounts of wild land in NY State, send em there, and get em out of the city where they are a problem.
K from Arkay, umm , there have been two confirmed cases of rabies in NYC just this year, both racoons, and 13 cases last year, 9 of which were racoons, in 2010, there were over 100 cases of racoons with rabies in NYC, and the city started taking action which is why the number is lower now, go to NYC.gov to see at http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/cd/cdrab-borough.shtml.
You can't "co-exist" with them in a city, being in such close proximity to people its a real problem, its not safe and any animal control person or wild life expert will tell you so.
In addition your numbers about how many cases were contracted by humans is totally wrong and really mis-leading.
The reason is that if you contract rabies, you will die, mere exposure BEFORE the onset of symptoms, can be treated and thus save your life
For instance there was a case of human death in 1993 and a death in 1995 and that is from the New York State Department of Health.
Having said that the simple fact is that ALOT of people get exposed to rabies but get treated before the onset of symptoms, which saves their life, and why you don't see a high death number, BUT that does not mean that rabies is not a real problem.
In 1993 approximately 1,879 people in the state of CT alone were treated for exposure to rabies.
Oh and the overwhelming biggest carrier of rabies? YEP RACOONS!!
Once symptoms kick in there is NO treatment and you die. Wait too long to get the shots, you are a goner, and oh, those shots are NOT fun.
For humans, postexposure treatment is used to prevent rabies. When someone is suspected of having come into contact with the virus, postexposure prophylaxis should begin as soon as possible following the exposure. If the affected person has not received any type of rabies vaccine prior to this exposure, he or she will be given human rabies immune globulin (HRIG) and a rabies vaccine. HRIG is administered only once, on the first day (day 0) of treatment, with the injections occurring primarily at and around the site of the wound. The vaccine is given in the muscle of the upper arm on days 0, 3, 7, 14, and 28. Currently, two vaccines are available for use, including purified chick embryo cell vaccine (PCEC, e.g., RabAvertTM), and human diploid cell vaccine (HDCV, e.g., Immovax). Each is effective in promoting immunity by inducing an active immune response in the treated individual. For persons who previously received a vaccine, either pre- or postexposure, only two doses of vaccine are administered for postexposure treatment. A typical postexposure treatment can cost at least $1,200,
It is extremely important that individuals exposed to rabies receive treatment immediately because, once outward symptoms of the disease develop in an individual, rabies normally is 100 percent fatal.
Get the racoons out of here.
July 17, 2012, 4:14 pm
Rocky from ArKady says:
Boss sez I need to do some smackdowns back in the old hood. IMA GONNA GET YOU, JAY! GROWLLLLLLLL.
July 17, 2012, 6:16 pm
K. from ArKady says:
Now now, go back to the Fir tree.

OK, you all seem to be suffering, so here's a great secret involving how to repel raccoons from your person. Watch this video, as the magic potion is displayed in action on a test subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13cS7oQwCHc

Works like a charm. Use it and you'll never get bit.
July 17, 2012, 6:23 pm
Aaron from Greenwood Heights says:
Z, really? "what is being proposed to be done to the poor racoons is what settlers did to the Indians when they first came to America"

That is the most asinine statement I have read on this website or even come across in dealing with this ongoing debated for 4 years.

Take a deep breath and think about what you are saying.

We're talking about culling a population of urban raccoons who are causing damage, quality of life issues and spreading decease to local residents (not just rabies...Google "round worm").

To equate that with even the slightest thought of exterminating a species, let alone humans vs. raccoons for that matter, is nuts.

When you have a legitimate pov, I'd love to discuss/debate it.

Jay, thanks for all the info, perhaps more than I need to know, but that seems to be evolving.
July 17, 2012, 6:27 pm
Aaron from Greenwood Heights says:
K, "Works like a charm. Use it and you'll never get bit."

Who the heck was talking about getting bit?

And when I can walk up to one of the more friendly ones and tap it with my shoe, we have more of an issue than biting. Such comfort around humans is not only bad for the folks in the area (as these racoons will not be spooked by average measures of yelling, clapping, water, etc.) it's bad for the raccoons.

Confused.
July 17, 2012, 6:31 pm
Not Goish from Prospect Heights says:
Call the Loyal Order of Raccoons, Bensonhurst chapter. They'll send all the Brooklyn Raccoons up the Hudson for their annual excursion to Raccoon Point. The Raccoon Of The Year will open up the first clam.
July 17, 2012, 6:41 pm
Aaron from Greenwood Heights says:
Not Goish,

Wait, I thought they had a smelt fishing contest chartered for this year?
July 17, 2012, 6:51 pm
K. from ArKady says:
@ Aaron : Well, you don't get rabies by the raccoon sneezing on you. You get it by going up to a rabid frothing one and doing to it whatever complete idiots would do in the face of such a thing, then getting bit. Like walking up to one and tapping it with a shoe ( sorry, I couldn't resist a jab there ). But seriously brother, don't do that. This is exactly why people have problems with these animals. Just let them be. Don't mess with them. And you'll be fine. This applies to all the (ahem) wildlife in NYC, as long time residents will tell you.

@ NotGoish : Straight to the moon on that comment.
July 17, 2012, 6:58 pm
Resident from Greenwood Heights says:
I live in the area. Racoons are out every night and making a mess. Usually I wouldn't mind one or two- but if you don't live here, then you don't really know how out of control they are. Like the article said, it's not one or two, there are packs running wild in the streets. Not normal!
July 17, 2012, 8:35 pm
JAY from PSLOPE says:
K. you are just wrong, racoons that have rabies will come after you, for no reason other than they are basically like zombies once the symptoms set in. You don't have to do anything that bothers them for this to occur.
They come up to you and after you, and that is why your "wont get bit" and other statements are pure bolderdash and why racoons ARE a problem in NYC.
Furthermore, like other people on here said, they cause other problems as well.
July 17, 2012, 11:07 pm
Save, don't destroy says:
Doods, it's far more dangerous to ride your bike in the city and clearly not enough room enough for that either, so what, should we send all the bike riders upstate or to Wyoming with the raccoon's? The real problems is that people don't learn from their mistakes of the past, that annihilation of everything in our way doesn't work. We continue to fail as a species, humans being the only creature that can't seem to co-exist, not even with each other. Why do we instinctively hate all that present a challenge to us? Sadly when we spend our whole life struggling to fit in. Sounds like we're the ones who have failed not only the little raccoon's, but ourselves as well. By all means, report the rare rabid/"zombie" raccoon, as it will help to strengthen the breed and allow us to focus on the wonderful healthy ones making urban life a lot more enjoyable.
July 18, 2012, 12:56 am
Save, don't destroy says:
Rest well my people, as the masked marauders frolic in the night... of a city that never sleeps!

They couldn't have picked a more apropos place to live than here.
July 18, 2012, 1:07 am
K. from ArKady says:
Ha! Wouldn't you know, there was a story on the local TV news about a raccoon. Some guy heard a lot of commotion in his backyard, and stuck in the slats of his cedar fence was a baby raccoon. The parents were pretty concerned and looked none too happy. He called the fire department and they came! Some firemen distracted the parents while another with thick leather gloves cautiously attempted to free the baby. They weren't up to grabbing it, even with the gloves, so they pried the fence slats open and the baby got it's paw unstuck. Off it went back into the trees. Everyone seemed pretty happy in the clip, animals and people.
Maybe your Brooklyn raccoons are rabid zombies that swoop down in the night to eat children, but here they're just animals that occasionally need some help.
July 18, 2012, 1:36 am
Aaron from Greenwood Heights says:
Well, with all the best intentions, and lids on the cans, the bad-boys slammed us again last night on garbage night. Just proves my point...
July 18, 2012, 12:37 pm
JAY from PSLOPE says:
K. you are proving the point that where you live maybe they are not a problem and that is fine, but IN NYC, a big city with lots of people stacked on top of each other, they ARE a problem. Your town is different, and that is one mistake you are making right off the bat to think that things that work where you live will apply in NYC.
Save, you make sweeping generalizations about things totally unconnected to racoons in Brooklyn to support an utterly ridiculous and artificially narrowed argument that is just not based on anything real.
July 18, 2012, 1:50 pm
K. from Arkady says:
Indeed: for starters, I and my neighbors compost. Why fertilize the landfill when I can do it to my vegetable beds? You and your neighbors clearly don't. Hence the midnight raids. You could try separating out the kitchen scraps and just leaving them in a bucket, but I suspect the raccoons have learned to associate those big pails with supper time so that may prove only partly effective. Still, if I stuffed 10 dollar bills in my garbage, I'd be foolish to complain about the people rooting around in my trash pails.
July 18, 2012, 4:47 pm
Aaron from Greenwood Heights says:
K, funny, my wife and I compost, recycle 80% of what we consume, wash out all non-recyclables and most times double back our puny bag-o-garbage. As many of my neighbors do as well who have gardens/rear yards.

So your point is lost on quite a few of us.

But do let me know when you are putting out those 10ers...and your address.
July 18, 2012, 5:15 pm
Aaron from Greenwood Heights says:
Sorry, meant "double bag" our garbage (way to little to put out in a can, then it would be like Yatsee (sp?) to the raccoons.
July 18, 2012, 5:17 pm
BadBoyz from Prospect Park says:
Yo B, we don't care about your food, we're looking for credit card applications and your financial documents.
July 18, 2012, 7:02 pm
Aaron from Greenwood Heights says:
BB, we shred our docs the same as you shred our bags...
July 18, 2012, 7:23 pm
K. from ArKady says:
Now Aaron, I'm sure you are the pinnacle of virtuous moderate liberalry, but the raccoons seem to think otherwise. And who am I to believe? (grin). For what it is worth, we have raccoons, and trash is picked up once _a month_ for us, and they have never bothered the cans. Ever.

That said, securing the cans is easy, if not entirely street legal. A small wooden cage to contain the cans, and a crossbar to hold the lids in place, and they'll be stymied. Just bear in mind that the locking mechanism has to be something real, not just a pin or wire. Raccoons have the intelligence of rhesus monkeys, and not only can solve lock puzzles, but once learned can do so with inversions, etc etc. So they understand the abstract concept, not just the concrete instance.

But let me guess. You've got a titanium/cement composite bunker to store the cans, with a locking mechanism from an old atomic bomb you bought in surplus down on Canal St, and still they get it. Yes?
July 18, 2012, 9:31 pm
Z from Bay Ridge says:
Aaron, I'll agree that my analogy was perhaps too drastic, however that was the first thing that came to mind, based on the arguments presented.
I mean honestly we are saying, we the people have the ability to trap, kill, relocate these creatures because they bother us so we will.
Maybe if you lock up the trash, double bag and use the other ideas that have been presented here and reduce the amount of food available to the racoons, they'd go away on their own since there won't be enough food for them.
July 19, 2012, 10:42 am
Hugo Furst from Bay Ridge says:
"Maybe if you lock up the trash, double bag and use the other ideas that have been presented here and reduce the amount of food available to the racoons, they'd go away on their own since there won't be enough food for them. "

What? You want to starve these creatures? How Cruel is that! Imagine that baby racoon starving!
July 19, 2012, 11:53 am
Z from Bay Ridge says:
Starving baby racoons are a terrible thing
They are animals and they will migrate to find food in other areas.
Of course if these people wanted to support the racoons they would leave out food for the specifically, but somehow i think that ain't happening. :)
Hugo what is your suggestion?
July 19, 2012, 12:06 pm
Aaron from Greenwood Heights says:
Z, head of a rhetorical question? Me thinks Hugo was jesting.

Garbage is not finite, so they will not leave such a nice roosting spot across the street with such a buffet out front on our block. Believe me K, folks have tried far more drastic things than you have mentioned. Thing is, here in Brooklyn, we have things like building codes and zoning resolutions that stipulate what can/cannot be built in front of buildings.

So in 95% of cases, your left with a cordoned off area (by gate or planter) where cans site...if that (love those recent condos). Even the locking cans get opened.

I have had these bad boys flip the latch on my front gate and open it.

So all debating aside, the raccoons are here, not going anywhere and if the cohabitation continues to deteriorate (found scat on my stoop last night, VERY BAD!), they will and must be trapped. I, and my neighbors, would hope the City, to whom we pay taxes for the DOH, DSNY and other agencies, would assist in culling these animals. Same as rats at this point...
July 19, 2012, 3:30 pm
Pietro from P-Slope says:
Jay is right The "Herd"needs to be culled.
Chances are someone will get bit,and then
there will be an outcry, and the city will go
from no reaction to over reaction, but why wait?
July 19, 2012, 9:39 pm
Save, don't destroy says:
Let us benefit from generalizing as it's the basic premise for thinking outside the box and putting things into perspective. These little critters are nothing more than victims of racial profiling, where people create rational to disguise their hatred and perhaps make themselves feel better about themselves, while deep down, they have low self esteem. Help yourself, stand up and be ye different, and you'll be different, not having to make excuses for yourself any longer. "Smokey the bear says, "only you can prevent forest fires", such being an example of everything one can do for themselves which in turn makes things better for everyone. Don't come up with reasons to hate, but rather to help. Only you can prevent hatred. Start with a raccoon, just one, make it your friend, and the rest will come together. You'll see how much better you'll feel about yourself.

Let's do something wonderful, perhaps show the world, how Brooklynites came together, and embraced this native friend who came back home to live.

May the coolest heads prevail.
July 21, 2012, 12:57 am
old time brooklyn from slope says:
lucky charms anti-freeze = rocky you met your match
It works - I use it at my country estate to control the vemin they are.

how about rats - dont they deserve the same rights (no such thing as annimal rights) mazel tov
July 21, 2012, 10:54 am
Save, don't destroy says:
How did all the raccoon haters feel about the Colorado Joker Massacre or 911? Same thing folks, one creates rational to stamp out another. Stop drawing the invisible line as it's just a lie. We are the human animal, and know what fear, pain and loss feels like.

Rights are merely a man made concept, not real, we givith and we takith as it conveniently suits us. But our thinking is all our own and perhaps the only thing we have of value. Let's use that big brain of ours to make this a better place for the short time we and the other animals get to enjoy our lives. Teach our children, set an example.

Note that vermin/varmint is nothing more than a hatred word as it applies to no species in particular but is used to negatively profile any creature that one chooses to define as a hindrance. Some races of humans have been labled as such. Can we stop the hatred already and recognize that all things have a purpose, and all animals purpose is the same, to live, reproduce, die and make the best of it.

Let's hope that one of our kids doesn't mistakenly eat that Lucky Charms anti-freeze mix - a posion that also kills dogs, cats, squirrels, birds, etc. in a horrific way. It would be a hard lesson to learn from short sighted thinking.
July 21, 2012, 6:48 pm
old time brooklyn from slope says:
if it works it work - squirels, skunks etc are same boat - if you kids eat out of bowls in the woods you are better off
July 21, 2012, 7:26 pm
Save, don't destroy says:
...pigeons, rabbits, opposums, canada geese, bears, foxes, coyotes, wolves, owls, deer, sea gulls...kill them all right? How about the homless, they go through the garbage - kill them? Or just really poor folks, they not only go through the garbage but rob our houses, kill them? And what about folks that posion/kill our wild life just to kill them, ...

Really, a person who says that the loss of a kid would be better off! What would we call them, what would we do with them?

At least now we can see the difference between the haters and those who care. Who should we listen to?
July 22, 2012, 12:31 am
old time brooklyn from slope says:
the homeless are a pox - of with there heads :) shalom
July 22, 2012, 12:39 am
old time brooklyn from slope says:
off that is
July 22, 2012, 10:44 am
Save, don't destroy says:
Imagine Brookln before. Before they took the hills away. When the humans were the minoritay. When buildings and highways weren't anywhere. Where creeks and streams ran everywhere.

A tree grows in Brooklyn. Why? Because we let them grow again.

Nature is beautiful, not something to be scared of.

Remove some sky scrapers, remove some the roads, remove some houses and who knows.

May more than the raccoons will come back one day, maybe more of nature will come and stay.
July 24, 2012, 1:13 am

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