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It’s not picture day yet, but Community Board 10 wants cameras at Bay Ridge and Dyker Heights schools.

The neighborhood panel called for the city to install speed cameras at six intersections near the neighborhood school — and blasted the Department of Transportation for not including the board in the process of placing the devices.

The state legislature approved a pilot program last month that would let the city select 20 schools across the five boroughs to receive the devices, which snap photos of speeders’ license plates and automatically mail them tickets.

But the city is not saying where it will put the cameras, and has not sought community board input — much to the chagrin of some CB10 members.

“I think it’s wrong,” said Doris Cruz, chairwoman of the board’s Traffic and Transportation Committee. “We should be part of the process. The community board has been asking for them. The community board has been discussing significant speeding issues for some time.”

Cruz’s committee requested that the city place one of the gadgets on 86th Street near the corner of Ridge Boulevard, close to PS 185, Adelphi Academy, and the Dimitrios and Georgia Kaloidis Parochial School.

The city has long recognized 86th Street as one of the more hazardous thoroughfares in the borough, and convinced CB10 to approve a redesign of the corridor last year.

The committee also called for cameras on Fourth Avenue — where the city is pushing another controversial traffic-slowing overhaul — at 72nd, 82nd, and 89th streets to protect the more than half-dozen schools along the route.

The panel also backed putting one of the units outside Christa McCauliffe Intermediate School on 65th Street between 11th and 12th avenues, where educators have long complained of dangerous drivers.

It requested another for William McKinley Junior High School at 73rd Street and Fort Hamilton Parkway.

But CB10 and the schools it represents could be waiting quite a while for the devices.

The Department of Transportation gave us a list of 44 Brooklyn schools it said were candidates for the cameras, based on the high percentage of cars clocked speeding nearby. Just one Bay Ridge school was on the list — the Brooklyn Community High School of Communications on Fourth Avenue. The city said the cameras would rotate locations, and that it would look at other suggestions.

“DOT has received numerous requests from residents, community groups and community boards themselves,” an agency spokesman said.

Reach reporter Will Bredderman at wbredderman@cnglocal.com or by calling (718) 260-4507. Follow him attwitter.com/WillBredderman.
Updated 10:14 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Brian Van from Gramercy says:
Surprised that Bay Ridge isn't refusing these devices.

Maybe this is a ploy to get the city to cough up the location of the cameras so that Bay Ridge drivers know where to "look out"?
Sept. 11, 2013, 8:23 am
TOM MURPHY from Sunset Park says:
Siting of cameras is based on high incidence of speeding within quarter-mile of a school. The list of sites(sans addresses) is on NYC DOT website. The cameras will shift among sites.
The Brooklyn Community HS of Communications is one site, and the only one on 4th Avenue, I believe; although, that artery is often cited as a dangerous speedway. Community Board #7 has asked for speed cameras(more than one) for the Sunset Park portion.
Sept. 11, 2013, 3:47 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Speed cameras are nothing more than a revenue generator rather than helping in safety. If it was really about safety, then enforcement of the laws would have been stepped up, which what Pat Lynch and the rest of the PBA was advocating for. Also, bike zealots are known to break the laws far more than motorists, and they won't have to worry because since bicycles aren't registered so they will never got caught let alone by ticketed for what they do.
Sept. 11, 2013, 5:10 pm
Bronx Guy from Bronx says:
Tal B,

No one wants a $50 ticket. It's true they will be placed randomly, but you'll never know beyond signage. So most people with common sense will slow down to avoid the possibility.

Don't want a ticket? Don't speed!

I can't wait until the city rolls these out everywhere. Some corridors are especially desperate need, like the Avenues in Manhattan.
Sept. 11, 2013, 7 pm
h3xFyL from Brooklyn says:
Didn't DOT put a fake speed camera box on Bay Ridge Parkway near the north east corner of Third Avenue (where the Starbucks sidewalk atrium extension is located?)? Isn't there another fake one on Fourteenth Avenue near Cropsey Avenue? These have been there for years.
Sept. 12, 2013, 5:46 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Sorry Bronx Guy, but I just see this as just another way to squeeze money from the little guy that happens to be the hard working, and I doubt this is about safety at all.
Sept. 12, 2013, 6:23 pm
Old time brooklyn from Slope says:
It is win win. Speeders get tickets and perhaps think twice going forward and nyc getz$
Sept. 12, 2013, 6:42 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:

All you streetsblogger zealouts, how about answering my questions.

1. Why are you so defencive on this?
2. Do you have connections with the DOT?
3. Do you see me or anyone making such personal attacks at you?
4. Is anyone telling you what to like?
5. Should only what you like be allowed to be posted?
6. Why do you need to resort to name calling and other personal attacks?
7. Have you ever tried keeping your ego to yourselfs?
8. Why does it matter where I live when I don't make that issue at you?
9. Does it really take an insider to know what's going on no matter where it is?
10. More importantly, are you on some kind of medication or drugs when you talk like this or this just normal for you?
Sept. 13, 2013, 4:26 pm
Islandgirl from Brooklyn says:
The city is really not worried about "revenue" how many out of state plate are taking over N.Y.? even running taxi, frankly I don't think it's fare to those people who pay high insurance and have to pay inspection fee and registration in New York, that's what mayor De Blasio needs to put in check.
Aug. 12, 2014, 5:47 am
steven from bayridge says:
Time to leave. We cant keep footing the bill for everyone else. Its way to expensive to live here let alone own a car. I just dont get it us drivers bring alot of revenue to the city and state already.
Nov. 3, 2014, 9:38 pm
ellie from Bay Ridge says:
ThE speed cameras are another attempt to fleece the law abiding people. Enforce the laws....that is the answer. I drive on 4th Ave and follow the 25 mile speed limit and cars are zipping by at 40 miles an hour. Stopped for a red light and crazy drivers zip around you and pass the red light. Catch the right people......
May 16, 2015, 6:08 am

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