July 12, 2010 / Brooklyn news / Meadows of Shame

Feds kill hundreds of Prospect Park geese!

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Federal agents slaughtered more than 250 geese and dozens of their babies in Prospect Park after corralling the adults and their young into a small pen early Thursday morning, boxing them up, and tossing them in a gas chamber.

The horror-movie-style measure was part of the city’s ongoing effort to exterminate the feathered creatures within a seven-mile radius from both LaGuardia and JFK airports — a radius that was expanded last year to include Prospect Park, putting all its birds in the path of a federally mandated massacre.

Carol Bannerman, a Department of Agriculture spokeswoman, confirmed the grim reaping that federal Wildlife Services staff executed on the fateful morning of July 8.

“Free-ranging waterfowl like this can be gently herded, then individually picked out, put into crates, moved into a nearby location and euthanized using carbon dioxide,” Bannerman said.

“Is this a difficult decision? The answer is yes,” she added. “But if you have to make the choice between a plane of people and that same number of birds, it’s easier to see the answer.”

She said that the geese were buried, but would not reveal the location of the feathery mass grave.

“In other states [the goose meat] can be donated to food pantries, but that process hasn’t been set up in New York State,” Bannerman noted.

Among the dead include such avian celebrities as Beaky, the adored and deformed goose that was missing the top part of its beak after surviving an encounter with a fish hook; and Target, the resilient goose who not only survived being shot through with an arrow, but mesmerized the borough for days.

Park-goers were crying fowl over the weekend, when several bird lovers gave The Brooklyn Paper a tour of the crime scene, a mysterious, feather-covered area where the birds had apparently been corralled. Plastic handcuff-like ties were also littering the site.

“It’s like a crime scene that they forgot to clean up,” said Ed Bahlman, a regular park watchdog.

The birds entered the city’s crosshairs after Capt. Sully Sullenberger pulled off the “Miracle on the Hudson” and landed an airplane in the Hudson River after flying into a flock of geese.

This latest episode likely means that the mysterious animal-related violence in Prospect Park has reached its nadir.

First, gory piles of animal entrails were found by the lake. Then, dozens of chicken heads were dumped in the water. As the weather heated up, dead animals began appearing in startling numbers. Around that time, park-goers mourned the death of John Boy, one of the park’s beloved swans.

Updated 5:19 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
And this is bad because...your kid being upset is more important than future passenger deaths in the Hudson?

Get over it. They're Geese.
July 12, 2010, 4:36 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
(And they'll be baaaak....)
July 12, 2010, 4:38 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
(or, maybe it's beeeeeak?)
July 12, 2010, 4:42 pm
Seth from PLG says:
I was very saddened to hear about the capture and killing of nearly 400 geese from Prospect Park on Thursday in cooperation by the USDA and the city of New York.

This action was taken in reaction to Flight 1549 being forced to land in the Hudson 18 months ago after colliding with a flock of geese. It's important to note a few things:

- The geese that downed the flight was a flock of geese migrating from Canada. The remains were tested. It was not a local population.

- The removal of geese from parks such as ours is likely to accomplish little as the USDA doesn't even have the power to go into the Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge right next to JFK and remove the local geese
populations. The Daily News reported this in June.

The destruction of the local geese population is at worst for PR value and at best an unscientifically proven method to increase aviation safety. There is simply no data that limited removing of local
populations of geese will impact the problem. While Canada geese are often demonstrated to be the species in aviation bird strikes there are many other species which cause the same risks. And according to the FAA, more than 70 percent of birds involved in aviation strikes have not been identified by species.

There is simply not enough data to support the actions that have taken place in Prospect Park and other wildlife areas in the city.
July 12, 2010, 4:45 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
So, Seth from PLG, where, precisely do Canada Geese found in Prospect Park come from? Are you upset about the Canada Geese being singled out a la species-ism? Get A.G. Eric Holder on this pronto!
July 12, 2010, 5:05 pm
Seth from PLG says:
Stephen, I'm not sure I understand your question.

The Canada geese which collided with Flight 1549 were migratory and would have returned north after the winter season. The Canada geese in Prospect Park are not migratory. They live in the New York and other nearby environs all year round.

I don't know where the local populations originate. They might be descendants of decoy populations. When you see new populations returning to places like Prospect Park, it won't be from Canada - it will be other Canada geese that live in New York and nearby.
July 12, 2010, 5:42 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
Seth from PLG, what do you mean not migatory? They may not "summer" in Canada, but they fly; fly in groups; and fly high enough to affect jet aviation. Why isn't that sufficient?
July 12, 2010, 5:45 pm
chris s. from LA says:
steve! buddy, i thought you were still insulting me over at that other article about the protest. but instead you're insulting all the people on this article instead. man, where do you find the time to go to every article and insult all the people? it must be tiring, but AWESOME to be you!!
July 12, 2010, 7 pm
chris s. from LA says:
@steve: yeah, isn't this article crazy?! have you used the word "depraved" yet to describe people who don't agree with you on this issue? that's a zinger!
July 12, 2010, 7:07 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
I am sick of people who care more, or as much about animals as people. SICK OF THE MORAL DEPRAVITY.
July 12, 2010, 7:08 pm
Scott from Staten Island says:
Repeal NAFTA!
July 12, 2010, 8:03 pm
mark from bensonhurst says:
People care more about animals because there more worthy. they dont lie cheat or kill except for food We should at least be a noble as animals and eat what we kill (vermin aside). What a waste
July 12, 2010, 8:08 pm
Dave from Clinton Hill says:
This will do nothing to affect the perceived problem and again shows us not having respect for the earth we inhabit and for those that share it with us.
July 12, 2010, 8:21 pm
fernand from upper east side/harlem says:
I was shocked when I turned on the news on channel 11 today and found out that all the geese on prospect park were genocided! This legal and evil act may start a trend to those people who hate birds already. Maybe a kid may start killing a little bird because of this news. "But, dad if they did, why can't I?"
If those people who killed the geese have the money to buy traps, pay for the man power, have the intelligence to find babies birds and their parents, and other expensive equipment they can have the balls and breasts to pay to relocate these birds or sterilize some of them to reduce their numbers.
Many people get killed, maimed, seriously injured by dogs and other animals and I don't hear about a mob that expertly hunt them down and kill them. I understand that the ones who murdered these birds did their immoral acts were concerned about birds ramming their bodies to a planes jet engines. They really have no excuse for what they did! Lazy and barbaric! Pilots are trained to see (they have eyes, they are not flying blind, instruments, training, and radios,etc) to maneuver their planes away so that the birds won't hit them. The skully situation does not happen every where, all the time, every second during every flight. Because, if that were true, no one would be flying...because fear of the demon birds, oooo.
Seriously, what are the animal activists are going to do about this and where were they when this happened overnight? It seems the ones in power who ordered this slaughter are afraid of something. What are they afraid of? Are all the pigeons and squirrels in this city will be next? If that happens, will small groups of people be next after the squirrels and pigeons are extinct? Really,this matter should have better resolved
more civilized!
July 12, 2010, 10:03 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
Finally, the Obama Administration does something I don't object to! One thing in 18.25 months! Please Eric Holder, stay out of this one!
July 12, 2010, 10:11 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
Mark from Bensonhurst. Gratuitous killing or harm to animals is sinful. But not killing animals when they endanger people is even worse.

I hope your take on the value of animals never becomes more than a fringe view. animals < human beings.
July 12, 2010, 10:13 pm
johanna from Park Slope says:
Moral depravity to be sensitive to the murder of innocent creatures? I think somehow that has got to be the most illogical, if nothing else, statement that has been written here. Having compassion for animals does not PRECLUDE compassion for humans, in fact, studies show the exact opposite.

There was no CONSENSUS here. There were no democratic processes in place that effected this slaughter. Thousands of families loved and enjoyed going to the park to be a part of nature. These geese were a gift to us.

There were studies that proved these geese were not responsible for the problems with airplanes. These geese fly low, do not get in that air space - studies had been done that proved the case.

APHIS -- or "wildlife services" or the USDA, is the arm of the govt that goes into the beautiful wilderness around NY State and generates reports which justify the slaughter of thousands of starlings, gulls, crows and other wild birds who dare to live anywhere near any agricultural farm.

This USDA is another word for animal terrorism organization. No trial, no assessment, no compassion. Just slaughter. It is sickening.
July 12, 2010, 10:26 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
I've heard that in Israel, the Canada Geese keep their feet healthy with Ahava products ;-)
July 12, 2010, 10:29 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
There was no CONSENSUS here. There were no democratic processes in place that effected this slaughter.

Actually, the geese voted, but their vote was overridden. I approve of this, fascistic practice; again, the only Obama Administration that I can so far support.
July 12, 2010, 10:33 pm
Joe from Brezzy Point says:
Are the Bluefish safe ?
July 12, 2010, 10:49 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
I think it's the redfish who should be worried, if you know what I mean, and I think you do (IYKWIMAITYD)...
July 12, 2010, 10:54 pm
Very sad the geese and all the wildlife in the park is loved and respected. Raccoons, rabbits, oppossums, migrating birds , and people live in the park I wonder which species is next.
July 13, 2010, 9:42 am
mm from PA says:
It is always good to know what wonderful problem solvers we have in this country -

It’s not about loving geese more than people just the question is this even the full solution to the problem which I doubt.

If this is the logic they feel they will improve air safety I hardly feel safe.

And really what is to prove this was done humanely I seriously have my doubts
July 13, 2010, 11:44 am
Any Mouse from Any Where says:
It's not the killing of the geese I object to as much as the missed opportunity to redistribute them as food. Like school cafeterias throwing away food our government seems to do a lousy job at redistributing it to those in need. So much waste!

Sadly, our government seems to do an excellent job at redistributing our tax dollars, the blood-thirsty socialists.
July 13, 2010, 12:52 pm
bones from flatbush says:
prospect park/ park slope has a large vegan population. suggesting the beloved geese land in the local school cafateria would upset many people.
July 13, 2010, 2:47 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
"prospect park/ park slope has a large vegan population. suggesting the beloved geese land in the local school cafateria would upset many people."

Prospect park/park slope has a large vegan population of clueless human beings with screwed-up narcissistic, child-like priorities suggesting beloved geese landing in local school cafeterias would upset many people.

Fixed it for you (FIFY)

Not school cafeterias but homeless shelters, etc

The thing is, I'm not sure how wholesome urban geese would be as food--an interesting question, actually.
July 13, 2010, 3:01 pm
AJ from Brentwood says:
Good, those nasty flying rats are gross and aggressive. How do I sign up to have them come over to my neighborhood and do the same?
July 14, 2010, 10:10 am
Homeless Vick from RED HOOK says:
the biggest danger to people are other people AND BABIES! Have your ever been on a flight with a crying baby? I would eat a baby.
July 14, 2010, 1:24 pm
Johanna from Park Slope says:
I don't know Steven Rosenberg and I don't want to know him. but for anyone else who is seriously outraged by his hateful and human-centric arrogance, I offer this quote from Nobel Prize winner, Albert Schweitzer,

"Until man learns to make peace with all of God's creatures, he will never have peace himself."

Abraham Lincoln: "I am in favor of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being."

Apparently empathy and humane action is a learned skill - not inherent in all human beings. Worth learning, though.

Johanna Clearfield,
Director of Urban Wildlife Coalition - NYC
July 15, 2010, 1:43 pm
Victoria from Crown Heights says:
Some say the geese in Prospect Park had nothing to do with airplanes:
July 15, 2010, 6:01 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
Johanna from Park Slope, humans are infiniely more important than animals. You have no sense of morality, and I suspect, common sense.
July 17, 2010, 12:33 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
(sometimes "making peace with animals" means killing them. Humanely, but nonetheless still killing them--DEAL WITH IT.)
July 17, 2010, 12:34 pm
Rob from Greenpoint says:
So, Auschwitz comes to Prospect Park.
July 19, 2010, 9:32 am
Seriously Rob? from Brooklyn says:
Comparing the killing of birds to the slaughter of humans? You're a moron.
July 21, 2010, 3:20 pm
Rob from Greenpoint says:
Why not compare killing birds to slaughter of humans?
Both are God's creations.
Both were rounded up and gassed by people who
thought they had no right to live.
And what makes humans so superior to animals anyway?
Animals don't have the huge propensity for evil that we do.
July 22, 2010, 1:46 pm
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July 27, 2010, 12:14 pm
Elisa from Astoria says:
@steven Rosenberg : you are worst than the scum of the earth. No one cares what you think as you are, in fact talking absolute —— !
July 11, 2012, 9:59 am
Elisa from Astoria says:
Crap !
July 11, 2012, 10 am
Joey D from NY says:
This is to Steven Rosenberg's comment "I am sick of people who care more, or as much about animals as people" I am one of those people and I'd easily get rid of you to save 250 Geese! You morally corrupted empty minded MAGGOT!
I mean the IRONY! really, the irony to simply kill an animal DESIGNED by NATURE to fly because it gets in the way of an animal that can't fly!
June 16, 2016, 5:54 pm
Debbie Magnin from Canada says:
so Steven Rosenberg since you think your so high and mighty, lets crate you up and send you off to a gas chamber. Those birds are worth more then your life will ever be worth. your plane is in their natural domain go fly elsewhere and leave the animals alone.
June 16, 2016, 7:11 pm
Debbie Magnin from Canada says:
I can see why America is so corrupt after reading some of these comments, you have no consideration about anyone or anything else because your heads are shoved too far up your arse.
June 16, 2016, 7:15 pm
Holly from ohio says:
Thank you for sticking up for animals who do not have a voice. There lot of things wrong in the world and this is one of the many. We,as humans, can learn to live with animals humanely instead of ruining their habitat and killing them. Where are animals supposed to go ?
June 24, 2016, 3:51 pm

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