DeBlasio to Grimm: Come clean about 1999 bar fight

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Public Advocate Bill DeBlasio is demanding Rep. Michael Grimm come clean about a 1999 nightclub brawl in which the gun-slinging G-man-turned-Congressman apparently abused his authority, waved a gun around like a madman and spouted racist comments at Caribbean club-goers.

DeBlasio, a Democrat, is challenging Grimm (R–Bay Ridge) to address allegations outlined in a scathing New Yorker article this week included a scene of the undercover FBI agent Grimm exploding and pulling his pistol during a night out on the town with the estranged wife of another man.

“If [the New Yorker’s] charges are true, it’s clear that Congressman Grimm abused his power as a law enforcement official and violated the civil rights of several New Yorkers,” said DeBlasio, who called on the NYPD and the Justice Department to release all documents pertaining to the decade-old incident.

“A matter this serious cannot be brushed under the rug. He owes it to his constituents to push for a full release of all records related to this incident so the truth can come out.”

According to the New Yorker, Grimm was working undercover for the FBI as a stock and currency trader in 1999 when, during his night out at the Caribbean Tropics nightclub in Queens, his date’s husband confronted him.

Gordon Williams, an NYPD officer who was moonlighting as a club bouncer at the time, told the magazine that he broke up the argument and separated Grimm and his companion from the angered spouse.

Grimm was seething as he was led away, telling Williams, “I’ll f—ing make him disappear where nobody will find him,” the magazine quotes Grimm as saying.

Grimm and his date left the nightspot, but returned at 2:30 am, only to be confronted by his date’s husband again, as well as three others, the article states.

This time, the men fought. When the fisticuffs were over, Grimm was flashing his gun, Williams told the New Yorker.

“[Grimm] was carrying on like a madman,” Williams explained. “He’s screaming ‘I’m gonna f—in’ kill him.’ So I said to him “Who are you?’ He put the gun back in his waist and said ‘I’m a f—ing FBI agent. … Nobody’s gonna threaten me.’ ”

Grimm left the club, returning at 4:30 am with another FBI agent and a handful of police officers, Williams told the magazine.

“Everybody get up against the f—ing wall,” Williams remembered Grimm shouting. “The FBI is in control.”

Then, just as the mostly black crowd were lining up, Grimm barked , “All the white people get out of here,” an off-color — and possibly racist — comment Williams told the New Yorker he “would never forget.”

Democrats hoping to unseat the freshman legislator next year have been having a field day with the article as political pundits and bloggers spent the last two days gossiping about it. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee even helped spread the word by emailing the article to media outlets throughout the city.

Yet Grimm says the article is full of lies.

Repeated requests by this paper for an interview with the freshman congressman weren’t answered, but Grimm told the Staten Island Advance that the article was a baseless fiction written by a magazine “on a witch hunt.”

“[The magazine] was working on [the story] for over a year,” Grimm said. “[It] was trying to dig up something that wasn’t there.”

The Desert Storm veteran told the Advance that he did take out his gun that night, but didn’t wave it around like Williams and the New Yorker allege.

“Once the fight was over, the bouncers were coming over but they didn’t look too friendly,” Grimm recalled. “I took the gun out of my ankle holster and put it in my waistband at the same time I took out my badge. All I said to them was, ‘Officer needs assistance, call 911.’ I wasn’t brandishing my weapon [like Williams said].”

Grimm said Williams wouldn’t call 911 after the nightclub fight. He complained about Williams’s behavior to the cop’s NYPD supervisors, shedding some light on Williams’s moonlighting.

Williams was suspended as a result, the New Yorker noted, although it isn’t clear for how long.

Grimm told the Advance that Williams, who retired from the NYPD in 2003, has had a grudge against him since that night.

According to the New Yorker, Williams filed a $1-million slander suit against Grimm following his suspension, but didn’t pursue it once the US Attorney petitioned to have the case moved to federal court, claiming that the congressman was undercover for the FBI at the time of the fight and “acting within the scope of his employment.”

The case was ultimately dismissed.

Grimm also told the Advance that the racist comment Williams claimed to have heard was never uttered.

“It’s absurd,” Grimm explained. “At the point when he claimed I said [those words], I was the only white person there. It doesn’t make sense. I didn’t say anything once the police got there.”

But according to Grimm’s account, he didn’t need to call police at all. Despite being outnumbered four to one, he successfully fought off the nightclub attackers, Grimm told the Advance, adding that when the dust settled, three of his opponents “were on the floor.” The fourth fled, he said.

Grimm responded to DeBlasio by saying that he isn’t going to make the reports about the 1999 club incident public, claiming that the Public Advocate’s request for them was “nothing more than political grandstand­ing.”

“DeBlasio’s cry for the truth is as disengenuous and as baseless as the disgraced police officer who originally made the false allegations and who was formally reprimanded,” Grimm charged. “This incident was fully investigated and I was cleared of all of the ridiculous and absurd allegations. To further entertain this partisan attack on my exemplary career and service to this great nation would be to give [the allegations] credence, of which it deserves none.”

Updated 5:24 pm, July 9, 2018: Adds a final word from the congressman.
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Or from Yellow Hook says:
Dear Conressman Grimm;

Please prove a negative.


April 28, 2011, 8:24 am
SpotlessMind from Bay Ridge says:
Where was this article before this idiot was elected?
April 28, 2011, 8:33 am
harriet from Brooklyn says:
If the charges are baseless, then Grimm shouldn't worry about an inquiry. Unfortunately, Grimm seems to mock other elected officials. He's not very dignified.
April 28, 2011, 8:57 am
jj from brooklyn says:
Ha! I suppose you'll also want to see the paperwork on Marty Golden's police disability (sic)!
April 28, 2011, 9:17 am
jerry from gravesend says:
I guess Mr. DeBlasio will be moving into the District to run against Grimm.
He's real slick.
April 28, 2011, 9:53 am
Mork Morphy from Dyker Heights says:
Grimm isn't worried about any inquiry because two investigations were made of his behavior that night, under the law, and found he did nothing wrong.

Unless things have changed in America, we still have due process. Grimm was judged as an FBI agent according to processes established under the law.

These cynical liberals calling for a reinvestigation is like asking someone found not guilty to stand for a second trial. As far as I remember, we don't do such things in America.
April 28, 2011, 9:58 am
Ken from Greenpoint says:
DeBlasio.. go look for a real job he sounds like another looser like Mark green..... spend your time and money to fix NYC and stop playing games!!!
April 28, 2011, 10:32 am
Leonard from South Slope says:
Where was De Blasio's carefully crafted sense of righteous indignation when his fellow Democrat Charlie Rangel was compiling a list of ethical transgressions as long as the Brooklyn Bridge?

Or does De Blasio only "advocate" when it's convenient?

I don't recall hearing him speak out about Hiram Monseratte, Eliot Spitzer, Alan Hevesi, or more recently, Carl Krueger.

Fair is fair. You either call out politicians in both parties when they do wrong, or you call out none. Anything else suggests that you are a hypocrite.
April 28, 2011, 11:36 am
barb from bay ridge says:
DeBlasio has nothing better to do but to look back and dredge things that happened 11 years ago? hmmm, seems like he has another agenda!!
April 28, 2011, 11:58 am
Robert from Southie says:
Grimm was at the club drinking with his date, not as an FBI agent. He got in a fight with her ex-boyfriend, pulled a gun and then called for the NYPD to bail him out.

Sounds like he misused his law enforcement status that night and again to end the case against him. He was just another drunk fighting over a girl! Apparently, not much of a congressman either.
April 28, 2011, 12:21 pm
Dab from bay ridge says:
Do I detect a history of an anger management problem? Perhaps on both sides? Sounds like there are issues that are driving unprofessional behavior. Does anyone really believe that the husband should NOT have been angry? Sounds like he was the only one that should have been angry. The others should have been more professional.....then and NOW
April 28, 2011, 12:31 pm
Mister Eddie from Mr. Eddie's Street says:
Isn't it delightful to read the comments of all those insipid and puerile liberal activists playing their blog troll games, with their overplayed, emotional and baseless inferences?

Who are you loser going to run? Mark Murphy, the failed actor who hasn't lived in the District for over a decade? Or maybe Bob Diamond, the left wing DNC shill for Obama that also left the district years ago. Let's not forget McMahon, who lost because of his votes on property taxes and would lose again in 2012 for the same reason.

No, in the end you loser liberals will be stuck with another schmuck who can't put two nickels together, and their ass will be flamed by Grimm worse than he did to McMahon.
April 28, 2011, 1:07 pm
Pete from Elmhurst says:
"Grimm and his date left the nightspot, but returned at 2:30 am, only to be confronted by his date’s husband again, as well as three others, the article states."

So you get into it with the girlfriend's Ex, leave, then come back later, for what? Was he expecting group hugs? Sounds like he was looking for trouble after he went to get his gun and badge. Typical.
April 28, 2011, 1:17 pm
JudahSpechal from Bed-Stuy says:
OK, you didn't make a racist statement.
You are not a racist.

But what about returning with another agent & NYPD when you were out on a date?

"According to the New Yorker, Williams filed a $1-million slander suit against Grimm following his suspension, but didn’t pursue it once the US Attorney petitioned to have the case moved to federal court, claiming that the congressman was undercover for the FBI at the time of the fight and “acting within the scope of his employment.”

Clearly, you got beaten up in front of your date. So you ran & got your boys. And they had guns too.

Pretty thuggish, Congressman!
April 28, 2011, 1:19 pm
Enzo from Park Slope says:
Congressman needs assistance, call Anger Management & AA.

The New Yorker is not exactly the kind of magazine which you wrap fish in. It's a pretty sophisticated and tony read. The kind of magazine you read in the doctor's office.

Mr. DeBlasio may be over playing his cards, but hey! Grimm's record is fair game. I respect the fact that Grimm is a military veteran and a former federal employee (FBI). That doesn't mean he walks on water. Grimm should cut out the patriotic grandstanding himself, and maybe answer some questions.

Grimm's story sounds like something Jimmy Breslin used to write about. Late night drinking in Queens' Bars, cops, ex-wives, girl friends, guns, badges.

How many fish can this story wrap-around?

The new Congressman picks the most Democratic County in the United States of America to tell the local senior citizens he wants to "clip the wings" of Medicare, support Republican Ryans' budget bill and god knows what else this Teabagger supports. What do you expect, Mr. Grimm, roses?
April 28, 2011, 3:10 pm
Eddie from Bay Ridge says:
Did Bill DeBlasio return Carl Kruger's money yet?

Thought so.
April 28, 2011, 4:12 pm
Kelly from Bay Ridge says:
Did Bill DeBlasio pay those fines yet he left for all the campaign literature he left on Illegal property?

Some public advocate...
April 28, 2011, 4:13 pm
John from Bay Ridge says:
Williams, the NYPD Officer filed his Slander lawsuit in the proper venue - a NY Court, the Federal Governemnt then claims the FBI Agent Grimm was working in an "undercover capacity" at the time, and therefore the case is transferred to Federal Court where it was dismissed.


If GRIMM was really working undercover at the time, why did he identify himself as an FBI Agent to door security so he could get past the metal detectors with his FBI issued handgun?

If working undercover, why was GRIMM carrying FBI credentials at the time and risk being detected as a Federal Agent?


Grimm was not working, he "off duty and on a date", he got into an altercation with his dates husband and pulled his gun out. As a trained law enforcement professonal, Grimm knew that by removing his firearm from his concealed holster he had to cover his actions.

What was his blood alcohol level at the time? Maybe that is one more reason why no one can see the actual reports. Even Law Enforcement are prohibited from possessing a firearm while drinking alcohol - it not safe.

Why doesn't he just admit he made a n error in jusdgement and move on. Stop lying about it.
April 28, 2011, 5:23 pm
Yankee Fan from Bay Ridge says:
First Marty Golden loses his gun and now Grimm is pulling out guns at the drop of a hat. This is great! I'm gonna go make some popcorn. I have a feeling this is gonna get good!
April 28, 2011, 7:41 pm
Met Fan from Bay Ridge says:
Should we bring up Vinnie Gentile, I mean there is no more chief of staff's he can play with, so who else is left?

Better put butter on that popcorn.
April 28, 2011, 10:19 pm
Mark from Bay Ridge says:
Should Bill DeBlasio really be talking, especially when his own staffer has worked for more corrupt elected's than the Kings County Democratic Party has, well not that money, but he will give him a good run.
April 28, 2011, 10:21 pm
common sense from bay ridge says:
No surprise to hear that the teabagging birther that "represents" our neighborhood is an outright racist thug.
April 28, 2011, 10:32 pm
al pankin from downtown says:
who cares, DeBlassio is nothing but a big do nothing rubber stamp for the unions...and the working family party who spin him like a kids top.
he should go and and get a real job and get off the public dole.
April 28, 2011, 10:42 pm
some old cracker from sunset park says:
Wait a sec? Michael Grimm isn't black?
April 30, 2011, 12:45 pm
I hate NY Republicants from Bay Ridge says:
It doesn't matter. But if you like Grimm killing off your granny then he's your Man.....This nut is a one termer for sure. Those old folks vote and trust me. He's gone trying to take aawy their Medicare!!! Such an idiot!

If he did this or not. Typical of corrupt law enforcement State of Fed!
May 4, 2011, 2:23 am
LoudMouth from Staten Island says:
Grimm unfortunately is a pompous fool. He is out of touch with his constituents.
May 22, 2011, 7:18 pm
Not Mark Murphy from Irvine, CA says:
Mark Murphy is a California carpetbagger who moved here months ago to run for office. He is a failed actor, a failed real estate salesman who now lives with his papa. Pathetic!

Take a look at some highlights from his work as a failed actor!
Feb. 20, 2012, 2:02 pm

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