Hear, o Israel! Food Co-op boycott moves a tiny step forward

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Let them eat hummus!

A wildly controversial ban on Israeli-made or -grown products over alleged human rights violations in the homeland first proposed two years ago will get an airing at the Park Slope Food Co-op, a plotz-worthy development for pro-Israel members who say the boycott amounts to nothing short of anti-Semitic venom.

Members who collectively call themselves More Hummus Please — a reference to the whipped chickpea spread imported from the Land of Milk and Honey — are trying to convince ban backers to bury the boycott once and for all, before the controversial proposal ever comes to a vote.

“Most people, unfortunately, join things without thinking,” said Harvey Lang, a member of the private Union Street market since 1988. “I’m really afraid that people will join a movement that is evil.”

The boycott was first broached in the 16,000-member market’s newsletter, the Linewaiter’s Gazette, in 2009, setting off an international firestorm of media coverage.

“I don’t know whether or not we carry Israeli products,” said the woman, who identified herself as Hima, “but I propose that we no longer carry them.”

But the wheels of social justice turn very slowly at the Co-op, where proposals don’t become Co-op law until exhaustive debate. And in the case of Hima’s “proposal,” that debate didn’t happen. Until now.

Members supportive of a campaign to boycott, divest and sanction Israel for alleged human rights violations against Palestinians recently submitted the proposal to the Co-op’s Agenda Committee — the first step on the road to a vote at the general meeting, the co-op equivalent of a New England town hall.

A debate could come as early as June or July.

Ban opponents said their goal is to win over members who are usually more interested in pomegranates than politics. As such, a strategy session was organized on Sunday to clarify that goal, and come up with a name for their group — which opponents hope is catchy enough to win over the majority of Co-op members who have no stake in Middle East politics.

“People come to the Co-op to buy food, and they are not always aware of what’s going on when people try to promote a political agenda there,” said member Barbara Mazor, who organized the meeting at Congregation B’nai Jacob on Ninth Street.

“They will say that human rights are being violated in Israel — and we are here to say, no, that’s not happening,” she said.

Boycotts are nothing new at the food Mecca. Members have previously banned products from South Africa during Apartheid; plastic bags; and a Williamsburg kosher food company over a labor dispute.

So, nu, what makes this boycott different from all other boycotts?

“This boycott is about destroying the Jewish state. It is about not being willing to have Jewish sovereignty in the historical homeland of Jews,” said Mazor. “It’s about denying Jews the right to self determinat­ion.”

And Jewish members who oppose it, say they are doing so in part to reverse a collective sense of victimization.

“Jews always feel that when somebody is trying to put us in the gas chamber, that we deserved it, that we should not respond to it. Those are the same people who attack Israel” said Esther Hertzel, a Crown Heights resident and 22-year Co-op member. “When Israelis were being killed by terrorists, then, ‘Fine, that’s what they deserve.’ But if Israel tries to defend itself, then they say, ‘Who gave you that right?’ ”

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Bruce from midwood says:
Once again we see the correlation between warped liberal thinking and antisemitism not to mention their anti American views , not here but in other places and at other times,as well.
May 4, 2011, 9:41 am
Charlie from Fort Greene says:
Odd that you would run a story with so many voices against the boycott and so few in favor. It wouldn't take much journalist gumshoe work too track down some of the many members who've supported the boycott openly in the pages of the Food Coop newsletter.
May 4, 2011, 10:18 am
Rob from Greenpoint says:
These effete Park Slope liberals are so ——ing precious they make my hair stand on end.
May 4, 2011, 10:25 am
bruce from midwood says:
You are soooooo right Rob. For example ,having your domestic help do your required monthly work at the park slope food coop and then complaining about how the poor of the world are mistreated or how evil Israel or America are for mistreating the rest of the world.
May 4, 2011, 11 am
Lawrence Gulotta from Park Slope says:
Boycotts are a very poor idea. Recently, the Palestianian Federation of Labor asked European Labor Unions to end the Boycott of Israeli products. The Palestianian Federation of Labor joined forces with Histadruit-the Israeli Federation of Labor to suspend or end any boycott of Israeli produce.

The same holds true regarding Academic boycotts of Israeli scholars, started by certain UK activists. There is absolutely no good reason to support exclusion of Israeli scholars from participating in International Academic Conferences and such. Academic persuits are international and without borders.

It is foolish and self-centered to suggest a boycott of Israeli made products-a decision that whould hurt Palestianians and Israelis. The Palestianian trade unionists understand this, why don't the callus anti-Israel faction at the Park Slope food co-op understand?
May 4, 2011, 11:01 am
Charlie from Fort Greene says:
The boycott was effective against Apartheid in South Africa and it can be effective against the similar abuses of Palestinians.

For more information go to
May 4, 2011, 11:14 am
g from da hood says:
Why target Israel alone? Ban both Palestinian and Israeli goods and maybe the two will figure out a way to settle their differences. (If you are down with that throw in Syria and Lebanon for antagonizing Israel as well.) Win. Win.
May 4, 2011, 11:55 am
steve from downtown says:
I will be looking for delicious Sabra brand spreads and appetizers at the Co-op. Charlie you are seriously misinformed.
May 4, 2011, 1:03 pm
WhyAreSomePeopleMorons? from Park Slope says:
There is absolutely NO equivalence between Apartheid as it occurred in S. Africa and events in the Middle East.

The Blacks of South Africa were persecuted and oppressed simply and only because they were Black.

The Muslim Arabs of Palestine, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaida, Syria, parts of Lebanon and Iran (though Iran is not an Arab state) have nothing but hatred and killing in their hearts and are indoctrinated at a young age to hate non Muslims and murder Jews or Israelis.

They don't want Israelis to be there, despite their legitimate right to be.

If Israelis need to defend against hateful, murderous enemies - who attack Israelis simply because they are Jewish and they are there - we should not intervene.

It may be sad they they are unable to find a peaceful resolution, but it is NOT Apartheid. There simply is nothing to Boycott.

Even Blacks and Africans are offended at the abuse of the term Apartheid as it cheapens and warps the historical worldview of Israel's laudable human rights record compared with South Africa's in the late 1900s.

see: African American Student Leaders:”Use of word ‘apartheid’ by Students for Justice in Palestine in its characterization of Israel is patently false and deeply offensive”

Case closed. Kill this stupid and embarrassing boycott ploy once and for all. (and expel the member who proposed it)

Someone who has been to South Africa, Palestine, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Israel and Gaza many times. (How many of YOU can say the same?)
May 4, 2011, 1:11 pm
fairandbalanced from Kensington says:
I'm unclear if this is the sloppiest journalism I've ever encountered or just a poorly disguised position paper, but I find it remarkable that the writer was unable to find someone connected to the boycott proposal, in support of the boycott proposal, or even open to the idea of boycotts in the abstract when putting this piece together. I guess I should be impressed that someone's finally found a writing style that makes the FOX news approach seem objective.

Thanks for making me doubt that anything you've written is based in fact or reality.
May 4, 2011, 1:58 pm
fp from park slope says:
Boycott the Food Co-Op
May 4, 2011, 3:27 pm
Myrtle Wyckoff from Ridgewood says:
It's distressing to see the anti-Arab commentary here. What could have been reasoned dialogue about this boycott instead was turned into a hateful diatribe about Arabs. I would listen to voices opposed to the boycott, but I would have liked to have the article contain more supportive voices. There are arguments on both sides regarding boycotts. I would prefer that they keep Israeli products but also look around for products produced by Palestinians and other Arab countries (presumably they have some).

What's not acceptable is anti-Semitism or anti-Arabism. A shonda on those who oppose the boycott with only hatred and bigotry!
May 4, 2011, 3:53 pm
Steven Rosenberg from Park Slope says:
Gee. Fatah-Hamas just condemned Bin Laden's death. Only a complete moral idiot would support a boycott against Israel. You are demonic MORONS if you do.
May 4, 2011, 4:38 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
All this boycott really does is hurt business, and they can always look for others. Many of the countries that have called for bans on Israeli-made products are doing solely just for the claim that Israel oppresses the Palestinians when that was hardly ever found to be true. The so-called claim has never been found to true, and as a native of Israel, I feel offended by this. If anyone is oppressing the Palestinians, it is Hamas, and they keep on teaching them that using terrorist attacks is the only way to go. Before you start making accusations, keep in mind that it was the Palestinians that started the very war back in 1947 by attacking a cease-fire line. Meanwhile, the Jews were more than happy to share the land, but the Palestinians were not. Also, there is no evidence of aparthied in Israel, because I have been there, and I have never seen places that read it was only for Jews or Arabs. One other thing was that many of the counter-terrorist measures that US has done in Afghanistan, came from Israel yet they are condemned for this when other countries are. What's even worse is that no matter how many times I have disproven the anti-Israel claims, many still tend ride those myths as if they still believed they were true.
May 4, 2011, 4:45 pm
Jaki Levy from Prospect Heights says:
While we are on the topic, we should ban all products from America. The US is notorious for violating human rights and bombing countries across the world.

I also vote we ban products from Chile. They sell drugs and do lots of illegal things as well that violate human rights, don't they? What the heck - might as well. Oh - and Mexico too. They do lots of bad things, I'm sure.

And while we're at it, what about France? We should ban French products. Just because.
May 4, 2011, 5:24 pm
kay from brooklyn says:
Yes, please boycott Israeli goods. Please work against inhumane occupation in all forms.
May 4, 2011, 6:17 pm
Moses from Hanging Off a Rusty Beam on the Barclay center says:
WhyAreSomePeopleMorons? from Park Slope says:

" The Muslim Arabs of Palestine, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaida, Syria, parts of Lebanon and Iran (though Iran is not an Arab state) have nothing but hatred and killing in their hearts and are indoctrinated at a young age to hate non Muslims and murder Jews or Israelis. "

If that ain't apartheid-like thinking, than I don't know what is!

People like this are why the world is in the terrible state it is. There should be a boycott against people like this cretin.
May 4, 2011, 7:31 pm
kay from brooklyn says:
Those who claim to have been to Israel and seen no evidence of apartheid totally missed the really big wall, militarized checkpoints, illegal settlements, carved up Palestinian land... etc. The fact is that Israel is running an illegal occupation of foreign lands. All of us should be against this, whatever else we believe. We should also be against the complete lack of openness we allow when it comes to discussing Israel-Palestine issues. Anything even vaguely anti-occupation is accused of being anti-semitic. There's a huge difference between opposing the state of Israel for their actions and doing something actually anti-Jew or anti-semitic. Please, get a clue. Many, many lives are at stake.
May 4, 2011, 8:07 pm
Kyle from Crown Heights says:
It makes me crazy when people think that being opposed to Zionism means that you're an anti-semite. Not all Jews are zionists and not all zionists are Jews. I have watched video of anti-zionist Hassidim in Williamsburg burning the Israeli flag. Are they anti-semites too?
May 4, 2011, 8:13 pm
Juniper from Greenpoint says:
why does this place get so much attention? It is so local and unimportant if you don't live in Park Slope and even if you do. Its not cheap or even nice to shop in. It's values are very twisted. who can take any palace seriously where it takes over 2 years to even decide to decide to have a discussion. That is sad.
May 4, 2011, 8:13 pm
Juniper from Greenpoint says:
Kyle you are so silly. I bet you do not even know why Hassidim is anti Isreal. It is a matter of the messiah but that is another matter. you are an antisemite if you are anti Zionism which in turn is anti Isreal.
May 4, 2011, 8:18 pm
Rebecca from Flatbush says:
While I'm not surprised at the superficial reporting and mocking tone of the article, or at the simple blindness of most of the commenters, it all still makes me sad. I don't know where to begin, so I'll simply point out that the state of Israel does not de facto represent Jews worldwide, and those of us who *are* Jewish should be happy it doesn't. The policies of the state of Israel are causing human rights abuses and violations of international law -- this is simply a fact, and it does not negate the fact that the U.S. and other world governments also at times violate international law (but that's not the topic at hand). There are U.S. Jews who support the BDS movement as a valid strategy to end these abuses in Israel (including the organization Jewish Voice for Peace), and there are even Jewish Israelis who are pro-boycott (see The anti-Semite card is getting pretty overplayed, folks.
May 4, 2011, 9:23 pm
steve from downtown says:
Rebecca, there are American Nazis, British Communists, Canadian Bigots, Israeli Leftists, etc. Do you understand that in a free and democratic society, you can have fringe elements unrepresentive of the far greater popular views and ideology ? I suggest you go to Ramallah, without a head covering and talk about your upbringing in America. Just make sure your last-will- and -testament is in order.
May 4, 2011, 10:52 pm
MB from Cobble Hill says:
G-d bless the Food Co-op, which is actually very much like Israel. Intense debate and democracy are alive in both places. If you think you know the answers, you're probably straying into unthinking propaganda or the slumber of political correctness. To make a meaningful statement you have to wake up, ask yourself hard questions, and do some objective research. More hummus for me, please!
May 4, 2011, 11:49 pm
But you've never been to Israel, have you... from Park Slope says:
Palestinians flock to Israel for good reason. Israel provides the employment opportunites and medical treatments that Hamas and the PA have no interest in providing for their own people. The greatest friend that the Palestinians have is Israel. The Palestinian's own people - the Arab nations - only use them as a scapegoat in order to fulfill their agenda to destroy Israel once and for all. Let's stick to the facts, please, all you boycotters who are helping this parade to destruction along. The United States gives more humanitarian financial aid to the Palestinian people than all the Arab countries COMBINED. And speaking of facts, have any of you naysayers ever actually BEEN to Israel? It is the acme of goodness and kindness that is apparent from the moment your plane lands. The world center of universal goodness, which the Arabs are eager to malign through malicious propaganda. And you are helping them. Another pretty fact - the Mufti of Jerusalem during World War II backed Hitler. Oh, you didn't know that one either? Something to look up.
May 4, 2011, 11:53 pm
Barbara Mazor from Midwood says:
As one of the subjects of this article, I am fascinated by the responses here and the misconceptions people hold about the coop.

The coop has 16,000 members and is far from monolithic. However, this diverse community shares an interest in unusual and healthful foods, and is willing to contribute their labor in order to make it more affordable and obtainable. Among 16,000 people you will find every opinion you can imagine. So, @Bruce and @Rob, the people who have nannies - who are few - are probably not the same ones as those supporting extreme leftist positions - who are also few. The vast majority of us are working stiffs trying to take good care of ourselves and our families and do not deserve your vilification.

Now a small group within the coop is trying to get the coop, as a group, to endorse and impose a position that is extremely antagonistic to a large number of coop members. While I vehemently disagree with their view and find it to be wrong, uninformed and bigoted, I would never say they can't buy soy milk, tofu, and organic kale with me. I resent their trying to turn the coop into a place where I, and many others, would feel uncomfortable shopping.

@Charlie and @fairandbalanced the article was not about whether the boycott is proper or not, but about the formation of a group opposing the boycott. Representing the opposing position is not necessary.

@Myrtle - the word "Arab" appears no where in the article

@Moses - I suggest you learn the difference between "then" and "than." However, despite your linguistic challenges, you are correct, you have no idea what apartheid is.

@Rebecca - since you seem to be the most articulate boycott supporter in the comments, I am curious

1) whether you believe Jews do or do not have a right to self-determination, and why you believe the way you do.

2) if you believe that if Israel were to return to the pre-1967 borders, there would be an end to hostilities, and why you believe that or not.

3) and if Israel were to return to pre-1967 borders, do you believe Jews would be and should be allowed access to their holy sites, such as Rachels Tomb, Joseph's Tomb and the Tomb of the Patriarchs.

Anyone feel free to answer.
May 5, 2011, 12:12 am
neal from prospect heights says:
ban the boycott!!! :)
May 5, 2011, 4:24 am
adamben from bed stuy says:
the funny thing is that a boycott of israeli goods will hurt palistinians the most; when i was there the palistinians did a lot of manual labor associated with the food industry.
May 5, 2011, 7:13 am
Daniel Sieradski from Boerum Hill says:
BDS against all of Israel is collective punishment, as it holds all Israelis collectively responsible for the actions of their governmental and military leaders and the Jewish extremists in Israel and the occupied territories.

It is no different from the government of Israel holding all Palestinians accountable for the actions of the Hamas government in Gaza by, for example, blockading "luxury items" like flour from entering the Gaza strip. If that is unjust collective punishment, then so is BDS.

If you are truly opposed to the occupation and not simply towards the right of Jews to self-determination in their ancestral homeland, then a boycott resolution should be specific to products manufactured in the occupied territories and not more generally against all Israeli products.

Ban West Bank-manufactured goods and send a real, hard-to-argue-with message. Ban all Israeli products and you give the right-wing pro-Israel community all the justification they need to label you anti-Israel and potentially antisemitic.
May 5, 2011, 10:10 am
Boycotts are so dumb from Park Slope says:
Palestinian Labor Unions, TOGETHER WITH the Israeli Labor Unions have JOINTLY asked the world to stop trying to boycott Israel.

Not only because it is morally wrong, but also because it is backwardly counter-productive and hurts Palestinian workers the most.

Google it.

The biased, hateful and stupid member who proposed such a numb-skulled idea should be expelled from the Coop. Keep your small-minded and hateful politics on your maniacal fringe websites, and OUT of our Grocery Store. It's only for FOOD.
May 5, 2011, 12:34 pm
Anthony Vassallo from South Slope says:
I am always entertained by outsiders wanting to tell the Coop how to run its business.

What is not entertaining is this journal's snarky and often racist attitude about things of import to Brooklyn residents. I guess that comes from Gersh's starlit upbringing on the knee of the jingoistic newspaper -- The New York Post. At least as a Coop member, he had the sense not to write this article.

Note to Barbara Mazor: if the advocates of the boycott truly are a minority, what are you worried about? The Coop tolerates dissent, it has a process to air out controversy. It seems the boycott issue has taken 2 years to make it to the public.

If I ascribe to your warped view, I expect to see the flag of the 3rd Reich to be unveiled right next to the Squad One firehouse before the end of the week. Relax. Your hysteria (and that of Esther Herzel) is neither amusing nor valid. I am still laughing over your own expert observation that people employing nannies to take shifts at the Coop cannot be leftist extremists. Oh, really? What is in the water in Midwood?

To the poster (comment right above mine) who claims that the Coop is only about food. . . the whole point of the Coop is to avoid supporting corporate farming, support local farmers, support organic farming, provide healthy food at a decent cost -- all political statements. Please connect the dots before you write anything.

Perhaps you need a pop quiz about the Coop since you claim to be a member and are in favor of throwing someone out for exercising their Constitutional right and Coop right for free speech. Read your membership guide, if you are indeed a member.
May 5, 2011, 2:16 pm
dave from bed stuy says:

Only in New York do you have to listen to this crap.
May 5, 2011, 4:35 pm
dave from bed stuy says:
And frankly, no one in all of the Middle East and North Africa seems to be able to get along with each other, primarily on religious and ethnic grounds, so the world would be better without any of them.
May 5, 2011, 4:42 pm
Ben from Brooklyn says:
Oh religion is so much fun!
May 5, 2011, 4:43 pm
dave from bed stuy says:
Could you imagine shopping with any of these people?????
May 5, 2011, 4:53 pm
bx girl from Crown Heights says:
Maybe the co-op should treat its members like adults and let them decide if they want to personally buy Israeli products or not, instead of boycotting and offending many of their members. Talk about a nanny state.

And yes, Anthony, "the whole point of the Coop is to avoid supporting corporate farming, support local farmers, support organic farming, provide healthy food at a decent cost -- all political statements. " But they were eco-political statements with a specific purpose. The conflicts in the Middle East were not within its scope.
May 5, 2011, 5:18 pm
Harry Haller from East New York says:
I'd like to propose a motion at the next co-op meeting:
Anyone who seeks to inject politics into the purchase of mashed-up chick peas shall have their nuts slapped.
May 5, 2011, 5:55 pm
steve from downtown says:
..slapped, or ground with the chick-peas. Correct, our Co-op should be involved with eco-politics, not Mid-East politics. Now , if you want to ban products, boycot Swedish made meatballs, they treat their cows inhumanely.
May 5, 2011, 6:06 pm
Esther From NYC from Murray Hill says:
Hooray for Barbara. !
May 6, 2011, 5:18 am
Jon from Out of Town says:
Keep in mind the the purpose of this and all similar boycott votes is to place a contraversial political statement (in this case that Israel is an "Apartheid State" worthy of boycott) into the mouth of every man, woman and child in the organization.

With one exception (, every food co-op in the country that's been faced with this choice has rejected boycott as standing against the foundational principles of their shop and the co-op movement as a whole. One hopes that Park Slope can show the same common sense.
May 6, 2011, 3:24 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Barbra, as a native of Israel, I feel sickend to this boycott. As usual, it is based on myths rather than facts. Israel is NOT an aparthied state, and no proof has ever been found of that. In Israel, non-Jews, especially the Arab, have equal rights just like the Jews do. They have the right to vote and even hold seats in the Knesset. Israel is probably the only country in its region where other religions can practice freely without being discriminated against when this is the case everywhere else there. The West Bank and Gaza Strip or not officially part of Israel, and the Palestinians don't even pay taxes to the Israeli government, so you can't say that they are being taxed without representation. It's one thing not to accept Israeli-made products as a business decision, but it's another thing to deny it because of political reasons.
May 6, 2011, 4:46 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Rebecca, nobody ever said that Israel represents all of the Jews around the world. Afterall, it's just one country. As a matter of fact, the Knesset, the Israeli parliament, has members on numerous sides of the spectrum. In other words, you can't say that the entire government is one sided when it's not. Opposition groups have been welcomed. However, those that have called for either the Arab population to be murdered or expelled had their party banned from every running again, and there is quite a list on that, but this is not the case for the Palestinian side, and group such as Hamas, who believes that Israel shouldn't exist at all, is allowed to run for office without ever being removed. It's ironic that Israel can play their part, but the Palestinians can't play theirs'. I can still remember when a nuetral, centrist, coalition government was formed by the Knesset durring the parliamentary elections to agree on a unilateral withdrawl, but at the same time, Hamas dominated the parliamentary elections for Palestine. BTW, all Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip and most of the ones in the West Bank were removed since 2005, but Hamas still made attacks shortly after. Compared to what others think, Israel is a very open society and welcomes all, even those that don't agree with them.
May 6, 2011, 5:03 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Anthony, if you bothered to actually read the article, the boycott isn't about whether this is being corporate or ogranic, it's about what is being done politically. By that I am referring the claim to so-called oppression that they keep believe that Israel is doing to the Palestinians. That is what the boycott was based on, and it had nothing do with how it was made, it was on who made it. If the didn't want to take Israeli-made products because they weren't organic or made by some corporation, I can understand that, but that's not the case here. The politics I am referring to is what is based on human rights, not farming. Believe or not, many countries that originally boycotted Israeli products have actually lifted them not too long ago after seeing that in the long run it hurt them. On a side note, Richard Goldstone, the founder of the Goldstone Report at the UN, just made a recent apology to Israel after being wrong on his own reports, though it's still seen as too little too late to change anything.
May 6, 2011, 5:15 pm
trans alt from bike nation says:
Forget politics, Sabra is awesome. Not giving it up.
May 7, 2011, 12:40 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Just to get this all of my chest, the so-called nation of Palestine never existed at all. In reality, Palestine was ruled by a series of empires until the independence of Israel, so you can't just say that it was an independent nation that they just decided to overthrow. If you have to call it "Occupied Palestine", then this goes all the way back to when the Romans first gave it that name when conquered it, and they kicked out the Jews forcing the Diaspora in 135. When the Roman Empire fell in 476, Palestine didn't become independent, it just became ruled by another empire such as the Byzantines, and others followed that included the Mamlukes, Crusades, Fatamids, Ottomons, and British. As Dennis Miller once said, "It was a Never-Never Land." Where was the outcry for a Palestinan state in the past by the so-called Palestinians when others ruled before the independence of Israel? They didn't even demand a free state when Egypt and Jordan had the West Bank and Gaza Strip let alone made their settlements there, plus about half the world never condemned that as they are when Israel took them. Why is it only when Israel reacts to terrorism they are condemned, but any other country that did similar actions weren't? The UN is in a major double standard here when aiming at Israel.
May 8, 2011, 5:46 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
One other thing, there is also no proof that the Jews when making Israel a nation for forcing the Palestinians and other Arabs to leave. Many of them left on their free will. As a matter of fact, they were left in the dark in the other Arab nations in refugee camps rather than welcomed in. Israel was the first country in the Mid East to have direct communications with them. When they got the West Bank and Gaza Strip after the Six Day War, they actually gave the Palestinians an autonomy that neither Jordan or Egypt gave when they had them. If you ever saw the documentary, The Forgotten Refugees, there were actually more Jews that left for Israel than Palestinians leaving it, plus when the Jews left for Israel, they were forced to leave because of the anti-semetism that was used on them. If the Palestinians deserve a right to return to Israel, then allow for the Jews that lived around the region to return to their lands that kicked them out, but I don't see that happening.
May 8, 2011, 5:52 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Just one more thing, and then I will stop. Israel didn't put up security fences and naval blockades for the fun of it, they were put up in response to terrorism. The security fence along the West Bank was to prevent terrorists from comming into Israel without always having the IDF present at all times, while the naval blockade on the Gaza Strip was to make sure that nobody could give military aide or funds to Hamas especially since they have direct access to the Medditerranean Sea. If you want this to stop, then convince Hamas and all other Palestinian extreme groups to stop attacking Israel. Please don't give me that Hamas is legitimate because they were elected, because in many third world nations, extermist groups and dictators are oftenly elected, plus Hamas has never committed to peace, just use terrorism such as the two intifadas, which is really making attacks.
May 9, 2011, 7:11 pm
mike from flat bush says:
Tal Barzilai. you write alot, do you have aday job? or is this your job?
March 27, 2012, 10:46 am

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