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A 6-year-old Park Slope girl is facing a $300 fine from the city for doing what city kids have been doing for decades: drawing a pretty picture with common sidewalk chalk.

Obviously not all of Natalie Shea’s 10th Street neighbors thought her blue chalk splotch was her best work — a neighbor called 311 to report the “graffiti,” and the Department of Sanitation quickly sent a standard letter to Natalie’s mom, Jen Pepperman.

Can somebody stop these bureaucrats before they Kafka again?

“PLEASE REMOVE THE GRAFFITI FROM YOUR PROPERTY,” the Sanitation Department warning letter read. “FAILURE TO COMPLY … MAY RESULT IN ENFORCEMENT ACTION AGAINST YOU.”

Since when is a kid’s chalk drawing “graffiti”? Since the City Council passed local law 111 in 2005, which defined “graffiti” as “any letter, word, name, number, symbol, slogan, message, drawing, picture, writing … that is drawn, painted, chiseled, scratched, or etched on a commercial building or residential building.”

In other words, Natalie Shea is not an artistic little girl, but a graffiti scofflaw?

No. The law goes on to say that the scribbles can only be called “graffiti” if they are “not consented to by the owner of the commercial building or residential building.” But how could the 311 caller possibly be expected to know if Natalie had her mom’s consent to use chalk on her own front stoop?

“He could have just asked!” Pepperman said. “This whole thing is ridiculous. Admittedly, this drawing was not her best work — she usually sticks to cheerful scenes, not abstracts, frankly — but to send a warning letter like that is outrageous.”

Pepperman ticked off any number of daily insults to common decency on her block, including (but not limited to) dog poop, garbage from ill-kept homes, and noise from car alarms. But Sanitation didn’t get a 311 call about those indignities. It got a call about a 6-year-old’s drawing.

“The report came in as ‘graffiti,’ and, as you know, the city is trying to crack down on graffiti on private property,” said agency spokeswoman Cathy Dawkins.

“It’s a standard warning letter,” added Dawkins. “The property owner has 45 days to remove it or ask the city to remove it. We’ll inspect after that, and if the graffiti is still there, the property owner has another 60 days before we’ll write a summons.”

For sidewalk chalk that would dissolve at the first rain? Dawkins said the law is on her agency’s side.

“The instrument used — whether it’s paint or chalk — does not matter,” she said.

But if Dawkins is right, than the city has just criminalized hopscotch or drawing arrows to point neighbors towards a stoop sale down the block — as long as a neighbor calls 311 to complain.

In reality, chalkers have little reason to start using invisible ink. The city’s pre-eminent sidewalk chalk illustrator, Ellis Gallagher, says he’s outlining street furniture and other objects for years and never been arrested.

“Cops stop me all the time when they see me drawing on the sidewalk, but once they see it’s just chalk, they always let me go,” said Gallagher, a Carroll Gardens resident (see his work at www.myspace.com/ellis_gee).

Gallagher believes that, despite local law 111, drawing in chalk is not illegal. But a call to the NYPD revealed that there’s a lot of gray area. (UPDATE: Gallagher arrested for chalk drawing. [nydailynews.com])

“According the New York penal law, graffiti is the etching, painting, covering, drawing or otherwise placing of a mark upon public or private property with intent to damage such property,” said an NYPD spokesman.

When pressed to define “intent” or, for that matter, “damage,” the spokesman added: “If it can be washed away, it’s not graffiti, clearly, but it still could be criminal mischief. If I cover your car with mustard, that’s not graffiti, but it’s also not legal.”

Pepperman is holding firm that her daughter is a pretty artist and not a petty criminal.

And for his part, Natalie’s father, George Shea, hoped that his daughter wouldn’t learn the wrong lesson from her “graffiti” crime wave.

“I do love that kid,” Shea said, “but I wish she would stop capping my tags.”

Gersh Kuntzman is the Editor of The Brooklyn Paper. E-mail Gersh at gkuntzman@cnglocal.com
Updated 4:33 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Phillip Sulllins says:
I have read few things so sad.
Oct. 11, 2007, 11:08 pm
Mr Anaheim says:
Nothing makes a neighborhood look cheaper then graffiti of any kind three cheers for the city.
Oct. 11, 2007, 11:10 pm
Eddie says:
Seriously....Forrest Gump thinks this is stupid
Oct. 11, 2007, 11:11 pm
moron joe says:
i hate new york.

you all live in filth and think it is cool.

what a pathetic existence.

Oct. 11, 2007, 11:59 pm
jimmy bob says:
last time i checked the supreme court ruled chalk isn't graffiti.
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:02 am
M Bakkin says:
What is wrong with anyone who would complain about a child using chalk on a sidewalk??

Maybe the complaintant would rather have the young artist TAG a bridge or the side of a building with paint.

I am sick and tired of you left wing ——s wasting our time on things that we all grew up with and survived.
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:10 am
Jackson says:
What makes you think that the complainant was left wing? Its the right wingers who are on the 'we know best for you' kick, not the left wingers.

Someone having fun in the neighbourhood? Must be time to get that stopped!!! Im surprised a swat team didn't show up...
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:18 am
M Bakkin says:
What no comments? You all had alot to say earlier this evening. Let's hear some sort of response from you euphorians.
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:26 am
M Bakkin says:
Why was my second comment not posted? Did I offend someone?
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:43 am
Brak says:
Honestly, what's needed here is a solution.

The solution is. The neighbor needs to have the rest of the people on the block go and "inform" them of what is and is not appropriate behavior in a civil society. The upshot being is that if you aren't civil to your neighbors and their kids, you get treated uncivilly... and calling in a complaint for a 6 year old scribbling on the sidewalk is NOT ACCEPTABLE. Lots of things happen to people that aren't civil to their neighbors. Bad things.

In addition, the neighbors and all interested people in the city should go down and demand to speak to Cathy Dawkins' superior and demand that she be suspended pending review.

A bureaucrat should enforce the law, yes, but they should have enough Ef-ing common sense to know when to look at the situation, laugh at the stupidity of the complaint, and tear the notice up WHILE ISSUING AN APOLOGY to the parents for wasting their time.
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:58 am
Parp says:
Natalie's dad, funny guy.

%u201CI do love that kid,%u201D Shea said, %u201Cbut I wish she would stop capping my tags.%u201D
Oct. 12, 2007, 1:35 am
eek says:
"pedobear" that's just wrong wrong wrong!
Oct. 12, 2007, 2:21 am
Brad says:
What I bet really happened is that her parents have a spat going with someone else on the block, and the other party is just using the letter of the law to harass them.

Its pretty common, my neighbor got fined for having two garage sales in one year because some "property value nazi" felt that garage sales reduce home values. We;v also had neighbors fined for putting CB/HAM radio antennas, and DISH/DTV receivers because its considered a property modification that requires a zoning review.

Every neighborhood usually has some bitter old coot(s) who run around filing criminal and civil complaints, it just seems to be something that old people like to do.
Oct. 12, 2007, 4:02 am
Brad says:
Brak... A bureaucrat NEVER admits a mistake. They are not accountable like normal people because they have a union.
Oct. 12, 2007, 4:12 am
Whiner says:
the funniest thing about this is that it happened in PARK SLOPE %u2014 a neighborhood plagued not too long ago with REAL vandalism on the sidewalks of 7th avenue (people PAINTING poitical slogans!) and where people don't seem to think there's anything wrong with the taggers who plaster lampposts and newsboxes with crappy flyers (including flyers for "stoop sales" and the like that stay up for weeks after the event %u2014 until they're covered up with some other crap).

chalk on a walkway ON THE GIRL'S PROPERTY INSIDE HER FENCE %u2014 how can ANYONE seriously think there's ANYTHING wrong with that! even on the public sidewalk %u2014 GET A LIFE!

some people just have too much time on their hands. maybe they should join the co-op and kill some of that time waiting on line and thinking about whether suppression of a 6 year old's creativity in wash-away chalk is politically correct.

ahhhhhhh!
Oct. 12, 2007, 6:35 am
Man in Maine says:
Are you F#@king kidding me?!
Oct. 12, 2007, 7:57 am
FlashF says:
It is stuff like that that makes me OH SO GLAD I don't live anywhere near New York. I would not even go within 50 miles of that God-awful city.

BTW the words "Bureaucrat" and "common sense" cannot be used together in the same sentence.
Oct. 12, 2007, 8:02 am
The Kast says:
That has got to be the biggest load of dung that I have ever heard. I think that the person that called 311 should be tied to a post with a sign above there head that says, "I AM A NARK. PLEASE SPIT ON ME."
Oct. 12, 2007, 8:24 am
Joe says:
This has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of. However, it sounds typical of the big brother style intrusive nanny state that those in the northeastern states seem to want to have based on who they keep electing.

I for one am glad that I live nowhere near New York, we have something called common sense here.
Oct. 12, 2007, 9:24 am
Whatthe****? says:
Who in their right mind would report something like that? Much less why would the city enforce something like that on a little girl. So anyway you slice it that low life degenerate that reported them and "Pedobear" for saying what he did are both an utterly worthless puss oozing sore on the inner thigh of the community and should go to he**.
Oct. 12, 2007, 9:35 am
Spencer says:
Throw the book at her!
She should rot in Juvie!
Oct. 12, 2007, 9:46 am
blahr says:
Left Wing = Liberty
Right Wing = Fascism
Oct. 12, 2007, 10:01 am
Hiram Q. Pustule says:
Hey, that looks like fun, blahr. Let me try:

Left Wing = Nanny state
Right Wing = Property Ownership Rights

Hmmm.... think I'm going to have to work on my trite clich
Oct. 12, 2007, 10:47 am
Hiram Q. Pustule says:
Hey, that looks like fun, blahr. Let me try:

Left Wing = Nanny state
Right Wing = Property Ownership Rights

Hmmm.... think I'm going to have to work on my trite clich
Oct. 12, 2007, 10:47 am
Joe Jackson says:
Only in New York would someone do this...

--->Joe
Oct. 12, 2007, 10:49 am
Joe Jackson says:
Only in New York would someone do this...

--->Joe
Oct. 12, 2007, 10:49 am
Peter says:
I am absolutely outraged. This is craziness. What kind of idiots are running this town?
Oct. 12, 2007, 10:56 am
Bruce says:

Police State at its best. This is just ignorant and the Sanitation Department should be condemned for even thinking about taking action against something like this. WTF?
Oct. 12, 2007, 11:04 am
shanovia says:
that is so gay how yall peoeple going to give her a 300 doller fine that wouldent be me strieght like that!!!!!!!
Oct. 12, 2007, 11:21 am
5L4M says:
Dugg!

http://www.digg.com/offbeat_news/Six_Year_Old_Girl_Facing_300_Fine_for_Chalk_Drawing_on_Sidewalk
Oct. 12, 2007, 11:25 am
jotovia says:
wat they need is an soulution because this is so gay u now they shouldnt give that little gurl a fine shae didnt mow wat had happend she was just being herself it proberly was boring were she be at we write on the side walk and we dont get in troble and we live in west palm beach yall people need to be free come to westpalm anfd u would be free stright up.
Oct. 12, 2007, 11:28 am
nig says:
this is why america sucks
Oct. 12, 2007, 11:40 am
Dan says:
I hope that whoever called the cops on a 6 year old girl goes to hell, soon.
Oct. 12, 2007, 11:42 am
Dan says:
How are you fools going to turn this into a left wing/right wing thing? Granted, whoever called the cops on a little girl must be a commie, but you all MUST abandon this false left/right paradigm. The only difference beetween Democrats and Republicans at this point is what they want to piss away your money on... With one exception..

Ron Paul for President in 2008!!!
Oct. 12, 2007, 11:44 am
Casper says:
I'm really not surprised at all, with all the douchebags moving into Brooklyn. But then again, its Park Slope.
Oct. 12, 2007, 11:46 am
nyH8r says:
This is why New York is a bucket of poo. Because morons are allowed to pass laws. Idiots.. maintain your government or they'll "maintain" you.

Dude, she's six. LHTFA.
Oct. 12, 2007, 11:50 am
Dr. FBI_Guy says:

Cathy Dawkins should be fired, period.

What do you call government people not exercising common sense? I call them idiots, and should not be in anywhere near an office of the government.

Why have people now lowered our standards since the idiot got into office? Don't copy failure, and Cathy is doing just that, being an idiot.

Dr F
Oct. 12, 2007, 11:54 am
JOHN DOE says:
—— the idiots that are doing this stupid ass —— she is only six!!!!!!! you cheeky BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:02 pm
SICK OF SILLY LAWS says:
MY GOD, IS THERE NOTHING THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO DO BUT BOTHER CHILDREN AT PLAY???HOW COULD ANYONE SEE THIS AS A CRIME??SHES 6 FOR GOD SAKE!!!!!!
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:04 pm
Dumpling Factory 2.0 says:
There was a case in NYC of a protester attaching cans of spray chalk to his bike and wiring up electronics to print messages on the sidewalk around the time of the republican national convention. I'm not sure which law was cited for his arrest though.

So is chalk allowed on the sidewalk or not? Is the building owner's permission needed when in front of a building? Does the message matter? Can enforcement take place without a complaint, and who is allowed to complain? It seems odd that one artist in the article continues to chalk without a problem while others are having issues.

http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/04/kinberg_0410
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:07 pm
Matt says:
That is obserd, Its just sidewalk chalk.
a 6 year old give does not know all the laws and for sidewalk chalk drawing to be against thet law and called graffiti is just crazy.
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:11 pm
kimk20554 says:
I don't know if it's justified or not but their neighbor really does NOT like them, does he/she?

This really is much ado about nothing though. The city got a call and sent a form letter. If these people weren't so anxious to get their name in the news they would merely have phoned the agency and calmly explained that the reported graffiti was their child's chalk drawings on their own property.
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:31 pm
kimk20554 says:
Left wing, right wing, commie?!?! Are you people nuts? This is a neighborhood squabble. We don't know if the reporting neighbor hates kids or if this family constantly disturbs the neighborhood and someone used this as an excuse to harrass them. I suppose if I read through all the posts someone would be making it about race.
I'm all for intelligent political debate but this isn't the forum for it and I haven't seen an intelligent political comment yet.
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:39 pm
cdtands says:
the person who filed the complaint should be charged with filing a false report. Simple common sense would tell you that a child's sidewalk chalk drawing is not graffiti. Natalie isn't the one who needs to learn a lesson.
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:46 pm
jiveleaf says:
What is the world coming to? A 6 year old can't draw on the sidewalk with chalk anymore? I have 3 young boys that love to color on the sidewalk. I would be voicing my opinions about this one!
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:50 pm
Greg says:
I guess it's too much to encourage our children when they play nice, aren't looking for trouble, but just are being a little girl. Instead, someone should come out inspect the graffiti, deem whether it is harmful or offensive, if not tell the nosey neighbor to get a life. Wow, I'm glad I don't live there, I couldn't handle living next door to a sidewalk Nazi.
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:51 pm
Jason says:
write the commisioner here

http://www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/maildos.html
Oct. 12, 2007, 12:56 pm
AMERICAN VETERAN says:
Do you NYers feel safer now?
Is the neighbor related to the pig who sued the family because she slipped on water?

Will McConnell attack this little girl like he & his kind attacked little Graeme?

I'm an old guy in his late 60's and, if someone drew on my sidewalk like this, I'd probably ask them if they had any extra chalk so I could join them.

What punks they are for picking on a little girl.
Oct. 12, 2007, 1:03 pm
Demopubicansarescum says:
Left Wing = A lot More Taxes, Less Freedom
Right Wing = Almost as much taxes as above and Less Freedom

All the problem in the US are caused by democrats and republicans. The Dems and GOP have ruined this country, and they should all been taken out and horsewhipped and then be tarred and feathered.

What the dif? I can pay 30% of what I make to the govt to live in GOP police state, or pay 32% in a democratic police state.

When ever I see a car with a GOP or Dem bumper sticker... I key it.


Oct. 12, 2007, 1:16 pm
DNA says:
I hate that kid's neighbor, don't you?
Oct. 12, 2007, 1:22 pm
Dixon says:
I'm just glad that the girl is getting an early start with her art. I live in Brooklyn and, while there are many great pieces of graffiti art, there are just too many no tallent taggers in the neighborhood. I like that her father is supportive and I hope she continues to grow her tallents and soon starts contributing to the streat art world.
Oct. 12, 2007, 1:22 pm
Paul from California says:
You all think Californians are absurd (actually that only applies to the emmagrants from other places like oh ...New York and such).
However this is the most despotic thing I've heard of.
If this is just a sign of things to come, you'd better hide your jacks and jump ropes too!
Don't you politician have real things to worry about besides covering your backsides?
Natalie Shea can come and do her chalk drawings on our side walks anytime she pleases. YOU GO GIRL!

Mr. and Mrs. Paul
California (4th generation)

Oct. 12, 2007, 1:37 pm
michael says:
This "article" could have been summed up in about two paragraphs. And the only thing more retarded than the picture of the child holding the warning letter from the Sanitation Department is the person who called 311 in the first place to complain about a 6 year-old's retarded chalkstick sidewalk etchings.
Oct. 12, 2007, 1:49 pm
Trish says:
If the neighbor ever reads these comments...seriously your the type of person they have a spot in **** reserved for.
Oct. 12, 2007, 2:17 pm
pwnd3r says:
Why are we seeing this more and more. People have forgotten how to be people but more less mindless robots controlled by repetition and ignorance. This should have been thrown out as soon as it was known that it was a six year old with chalk. Why would ANYONE complain about chalk on a sidewalk. I could see an issue if the graffiti were offensive. Coming from a six year old... I doubt it. People have forgotten how to make their own decisions. People get so offended over stuff that doesn't even effect them. To the woman that called 311... think to yourself... why? How did a little girl of the age of six playing with chalk effect your life? Do you get off on making people miserable?
Oct. 12, 2007, 2:27 pm
Pitiful says:
...waste of money.
This is where good hard earned money is going to... bickering over stupid stuff like this.
Oct. 12, 2007, 2:44 pm
The Prophet says:
so the next step would be mass raids on every elementary school in the city, arresting every kid on the playground, and sending em all to juvy.

lol

no wonder people grow up and join gangs if this is how they are treated
Oct. 12, 2007, 3:05 pm
Steven says:
Pretty much sums up what America has become. Hungry for money.
Oct. 12, 2007, 3:27 pm
Tom Smith says:
Throw the book at her.
Oct. 12, 2007, 3:36 pm
Don says:
Just apppaled!!!

What a waste of taxpayer's money.
Oct. 12, 2007, 3:54 pm
The Prophet says:
my turn!
Left Wing = Satan
Right Wing = Lucifer

Same Sh!t Differnt pile

Oct. 12, 2007, 4:08 pm
Laura says:
Absolutely absurd...
Oct. 12, 2007, 4:09 pm
Harris says:
This is crazy...its chalk everybody uses it but this unlucky girl got fined...and from what i just read i think shes used it on her front stoop....Her mom probably said she could use the chalk and thats the stupidest thing i have ever heard the guy who called 311 is crazy!
Oct. 12, 2007, 4:17 pm
Sarinatan says:
Man! If a little boy can ruin a beautiful work of a Monk's sand art with less then a slap on the wrist, then this girl shouldn't be on the spot like this!
Oct. 12, 2007, 4:32 pm
tiny terror says:
These comments are great. As if they were written by a bunch of 6 year olds.
Oct. 12, 2007, 4:45 pm
who ——ing cares says:
leave the ——ing girl alone
Oct. 12, 2007, 5:05 pm
roberto says:
i keep thinking that this way of seeing life is stupid... stupid laws for stupid p eople.... they should do more in the education department to help develop young kids in the states about COMMON SENSE cause...they did it all wrong with this generation of old people...and are ruin the new ones...so letsget started on this generation ... va?
Oct. 12, 2007, 5:30 pm
Big Joe says:
What does "capping my tags" mean?
Oct. 12, 2007, 6:25 pm
Out West says:
Sounds like a very dictitorial move to me. I'll bet the grouch who called this in is a Giuliani supporter. Maybe she should have written 9/11 over and over. Then she wouldn't have gotten the hassel.
Oct. 12, 2007, 6:43 pm
American Veteran says:
Hey, Out West.
I'll bet joolianni's support stinks like his hand.
Oct. 12, 2007, 7:17 pm
Lydia says:
Okay, I can see the reason for trying to stop graffiti but, going after a six-year-old girl for chalk drawing is taking it way to far. Chalk will
come off. I think officals should be working on trying to stop the gang graffiti rather that punishing a little girl for drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.
Oct. 12, 2007, 7:40 pm
christo says:
Does anyone have the exact address of where B.S. his went down? I say we have a hundred of us go down there and chalk up the whole effing neighborhood and see the complainant stroke out and get carried out on a stretcher. Then, voila' no more problems with 6 y.o.'s doing their job in life: playing.
Oct. 12, 2007, 7:57 pm
freud says:
I like the "sad face" that Ms. Shea has while holding the letter from Sanitation.
PHOTOGRAPHER: "How sad were you when you found out you couldn't draw on the sidewalk anymore? Show me with a sad face."
NATALIE: "Like this?"
PHOTOGRAPHER: "No, that's a little too much like your puppy died. Try more like you're not going to be able to watch Sponge Bob this afternoon."
NATALIE: "How about this?"
PHOTOGRAPHER: Perfect!"

Seriously though, the guy (assuming it was) really needs to talk to his doc about upping his daily xanax allotment, this behavior deserves a one way ticket to Bellevue
Oct. 12, 2007, 8:07 pm
Dana says:
Somebody doesn't have enough to do...
Leave the little sweetie alone!!
Oct. 12, 2007, 9:20 pm
Denise says:
OMG! Don't people have better things to do than terrorize a 6 year old armed with chalk!!!
Oct. 12, 2007, 9:38 pm
Geminate says:
Here's the deal, if it is your sidewalk, you own it outright, then chalk draw all over it as much as you please. If it is public property then it is unlawful to draw all over it and expect everyone to accept what you did. There should be an acceptable public place for chalk drawing, like in a playground or park. But kids just can't be allowed to draw all over public property, since that belongs to everyone and should be kept formal. Multiply this child by thousands and you can see the problem very clearly - the city would look like hell and there would be many angry and unhappy victims of this so-called art. Art is never supposed to victimize people or destroy a habitat - that is what graffiti is and that is what graffiti does.
Oct. 12, 2007, 10:14 pm
Midwest says:
Here's the deal, it's chalk and she's SIX. I highly doubt she was drawing anything supremely offensive. And if so, the girl should be informed of it and then try water, it usually works wonders on chalk. Now if this "offense" is repeated, then it becomes a different situation
Oct. 12, 2007, 10:37 pm
Jeff K says:
that is ridiculous, outrageous, enraging
Oct. 12, 2007, 10:54 pm
Jeff K says:
whoever agrees with the city needs to think before they speak. What kind of a*******s are you to get mad over a six-year-old girl drawing with chalk. Are you really that deranged to think she intended to mark her territory or deface property. Go and have a kid of your own or even sit back and think about your own childhood. I think this is a perfect example of how left wing elites are ruining our society with their legislative bullcrap. Just to let you know I am sixteen and i drew on my driveway when i was a kid and it was encouraged. Whoever agrees with the city probably thinks i'm some stupid teenager. Well proving you wrong again.
Oct. 12, 2007, 11:01 pm
Leyla says:
Alright everyone draw away then. This is BS it is not spray paint. Chalk can wash off. The city need to lighten up some and cut some slack.
Oct. 12, 2007, 11:25 pm
Pat Kelly says:
That will teach her. Throw the book at her, maybe the parents should do some jail time too, for condoning it.
Oct. 12, 2007, 11:51 pm
Swede says:
Looks like the neighbourhood has too many oldfashioned people who has forgotten what it is like to be young.
Oct. 13, 2007, 12:22 am
Pat says:
Ms. Cathy Dawkins needs to be given an IQ Test.

Dumb-——s like that, who can make a simple judgment call because they have their nose stuck in the book binding, really have no business "serving the people".





Oct. 13, 2007, 12:47 am
Pat says:
Ms. Cathy Dawkins needs to be given an IQ Test.

Dumb-——s like that, who can't make a simple judgment call because they have their nose stuck in the book binding, really have no business "serving the people".





Oct. 13, 2007, 12:50 am
dd7 says:
Ridiculous! It's great to see a kid playing in the old-fashioned way. What a waste of public resources.
Oct. 13, 2007, 3:55 am
Adam says:
this is stupid, that girl should be punished! lol only joking, its stupid how governments spend their money wastefully. Different country, same stupid behaviours.
Oct. 13, 2007, 8 am
Charles says:
define "building". the law is too vague. case dismissed.
Oct. 13, 2007, 8:41 am
dan the man says:
taser the juvenile delinquent. or maybe the mother for not supervising. her child. or maybe they just wanted to get on the news.
Oct. 13, 2007, 9:19 am
Ron Jordan says:
It's time to return to when kids can be kids and adults to act like "adults". Go after the meth dealers, car-jackers, rapists and thieves and leave the innocent children alone. The mindset of this country has become so twisted that we've forgotten the basic values that this country was founded upon. If this 10th Sreet "neighbor" has nothing better to do than act as the local neighborhood cop overlooking a six year old "criminal" then it's time to put the "neighbor" behind bars for clogging the judical system!
Oct. 13, 2007, 10:01 am
disgustedinNO says:
That is absolutely ridiculous. Don't they have anything better to do?
Oct. 13, 2007, 10:30 am
4alarm says:
This is stupid - stupid - stupid.
Oct. 13, 2007, 10:37 am
Timitu says:
That is sad. Poor girl. I am a professional street painter myself, and my area is covered in street paintings. It washes off, and is a world wide accepted forum of art. And you have start somewhere. I hope Natalie keeps drawing with her sidewalk chalks, cause what she is doing is NOT wrong. Maybe someday she will be going to Italy and win the Masters title and laugh back on the stupid neighbors and City that tried to crush her.
Oct. 13, 2007, 1:28 pm
Kevin Backmann says:
While I no longer live in Brooklyn, I did spend the first 26 years of my life there (1950-1976), and if chalking a side walk had been classified as a crime I, and most of my friends would still be doing time. Franz Kafka would be mightily impressed.

In Dallas, where I now reside, they're considering outlawing drooping pants that expose underwear. Where is this madness going to end?

Chalk = Graffiti
Drooping pants = Misdemeanor

Oh, oh, I think the thought police are kicking in my door. Excuse me but I’ve gotta' go now…
Oct. 13, 2007, 2:18 pm
Paulos says:
It's pretty much the same in the UK. Authorities having little in the way of common sense or discretion when it comes to policies. Take the case of a little child being given a littering fine for accidentally dropping a couple of chips (crisps in the UK) or someone being fined for dropping dog hair while they were grooming their dog.

They tend to pick the easy targets to fill their quotas. You can bet they wouldn't touch a gang of youths chucking cans about. It seems law abiding citizens are being punished while real criminals are untouchable.
Oct. 13, 2007, 3:26 pm
Sue Tucker says:
My daughter, Natalie Russo is 25 years old. When she was 5 years old, I was told by her Kindergarten teacher at St. Catherines of Sienna in Clayton, N.J. that she was a budding artist. Guess what? After School of Visual Arts in Manhatten and Mass Art in Mass., she is an ARTIST!!

Back off on Natalie Shea!!!
Oct. 13, 2007, 3:34 pm
Mother of 3 in Fl says:
Come on. Give me a break. It's only chalk. And if the neighbor had such a problem then why didn't he nicely go over to the mother and ask her to clean it up. i could understand if it is spray paint or something that is permanent; but chalk goes away when it rains. I think this neighbor needs to get a life and leave the poor little girl alone.
Oct. 13, 2007, 6:53 pm
Eliena Andrews says:
Sorry ;author, but how can you use word vandalism for this article. I think its not releavant word for this story.

Eliena
http://www.happy-funtime.blogspot.com
Oct. 13, 2007, 8:36 pm
April says:
This is just outrageous! What kind of a free country is it when a little girl can't chalk on her stoop or sidewalk? I don't even want to say what I think should happen to the person who caused her family all the aggravation by making that call-there might be a law against it! Was that person on another planet at 9/11? Or are they just the pettiest person in the world?? Well they should be seriously ashamed of them selves...and more. And I hope Natalie keeps right on drawing and doesn't let this inhibit her creativity-My own kids had so much sidewalk chalk, they could've covered the whole block!
Oct. 13, 2007, 8:58 pm
Solanum Tuberosum says:
What I really don't get is how you guys turn this into a left-wing/rightwing, east-coast/west-coast, nazi, 'New York Sucks' debate! I mean, what the heck? Sure New York isn't the cleanest place in the world, but neither is California, or Boston, or Texas, or Idaho, or anywhere, for that matter. This is about idiotic B'zugda Hiaras (means garden ornament in Gnomish, nothing vulgar) suing little 6-year-old girls over some dang chalk! How is chalk graffiti? It's entirely washable, and a bucket of water gets rid of the whole dang thing! Enough with how New York sucks, and this right-wing/left-wing thing, this is outrageous, plain and simple!
Oct. 13, 2007, 9:10 pm
WTF? says:
Oh didn't you know? Fascism in America is alive and thriving... Hopefully I won't be making my next comment from a NYC jail cell.
Oct. 13, 2007, 10:26 pm
Napa Boi says:
You gotta be kidding...I am going to pretend this whole story is fake. I just cannot believe that our culture is now stopping kids from playing with chalk on the sidewalks. People need to get a life and let other people (like kids) live theirs!
Oct. 14, 2007, 2:29 am
BluExtacy says:
this is rediculus... my kid draws with chalk all the time!!
Oct. 14, 2007, 1:05 pm
Mark in Houston says:
Local Law 111 sounds (on the face of it) very un-constitutional and fascista. What's being done about this uncivil law that does nothing except curtail freedom of speech?
Oct. 14, 2007, 1:46 pm
Amber says:
I think that Natalie has a right to draw on the sidewalk/steps. It's just chalk! And I think that neighbor had no right to call 311, especially if the drawing was not on his property. Even if it was, I don't think Natalie had any intention of hurting anyone.
Oct. 14, 2007, 2:22 pm
gilbert nash says:
Graffiti was defined by the government as any letter or drawing on a BUILDING, not the sidewalk.
Oct. 14, 2007, 5:19 pm
Sharon says:
Really everyone. Calm down. The only person who has made any real sense is kimk20554. Thanks for telling it the way it really is. And by the way, can we all stop labeling each other and assuming that old Brooklynites are better than new Brooklynites. Really now. I've lived in Brooklyn my whole life and there are plenty of both oldtimers and newtimers that I can do without. Let's stop romanticizing the past and demonizing the present.
Oct. 14, 2007, 8:37 pm
Bill V says:
What's truly ridiculous is the fact that less than 25% of these comments actually have a 6th grade level of grammar and spelling. You people should spend less time reading news articles and judging people you don't know and more time going back to school instead of staying ignorant and becoming part of the problem.
Oct. 14, 2007, 10:46 pm
Hillbilly says:
I find it totally ridiculous that someone would call the police over the chalk drawings of a child. The person that complained needs to be horse whipped in a big way. Graffiti destroys property and is done in a malicious manner. This is a beautiful little child drawing on a sidewalk with chalk. It blows away. Rain finishes it off. I wish adults that need to get a life would leave this child alone.
Oct. 14, 2007, 11:40 pm
a says:
queerbait yankees and their crying
Oct. 15, 2007, 2:13 am
Dave Smith says:
Another case of the Government not acknowledging that they were wrong no matter how ridiculous it is. It's tells a lot about the integrity of the Government official when they do or do not admit to making a mistake. The ones who will not admit it but hide behind the letter of the law or any other excuse should be run out of office because they are a potential threat to a free society.

Oct. 15, 2007, 5:37 am
SandyCarlson says:
I'm with you, dad. This is so stupid you have to make jokes about it. This has happened in Connecticut, too. Cranky people with like to worry about the wrong things have a real knack for memorizing rule books.
Oct. 15, 2007, 12:02 pm
Josh says:
So I'm guessing, roller blading, bike riding, hop scotch, jump rope, hula hoop, running etc, etc.. anything that might cause someone to become "displeased" will be illegal? ——n' A KIDS! DONT EVER HAVE ANY FUN! STAY INSIDE ON THE INTERNET WHERE 40 YEAR OLD MEN CAN HIT ON YOU ON MYSPACE!!
Oct. 15, 2007, 9:54 pm
Max says:
Something tells me Bloomberg is going to call these jokers Pepperman and Dawkins and give'em an earful. No way is any action going to be taken.
Oct. 16, 2007, 1:15 am
Steve B says:
New Yorkers are absolutely worthless individuals. Why don't you focus on the unimportant minutia a little more? If you can't discern a child's chalk drawings from 'malicious' graffiti, you deserve to be put to sleep.
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:21 am
Dude Oner says:
She's capping your tags?!? She's going hard then.
She appears to have more talent then Cap when he was 17. Slip her a oil stick so she can really get up. UPSET THE SET UP.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:07 am
don juan de park slope says:
Speaking of park slope, are there any women hornier than the park slope mommy? A whole neighborhood full of prowling cougars. Two spot veterans, all of them.
Oct. 16, 2007, 1:26 pm
julie says:
you know, it's about time someone started punishing these over privileged, over protected little kids from Park Slope. It's also time to reconsider what the blog and local paper arena has come to when this crap gets printed and spurs discussions like this. mind-numbing
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:02 pm
xander says:
311 systems simply encourage an informant culture among citizens while automating burreaucracy (sp?). People like to complain and the city has to let them.

The kid did NOT get a ticket and would not have upon inspection, rather she was sent a boilerplate standard letter in response to a citizen complaint.

People love to complain and assume the city does nothing but this is actually an example of effective enforcement of municipal law.

Now whether or not the law actually reduces graffiti, generates revenue, or accomplishes anything other than wasting municipal resources...THATS a good question. Thanks again City Council!
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:12 pm
hahaha says:
Ridiculous! People are getting more and more STUPID! Kids can't even be kids anymore.
A world full of a$$holes and ——e$.
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:46 pm
Ron LoLordo says:
Another reason not to live in New York - the other being the Yankees.
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:46 pm
cim says:
the neighbour needs to loosen up, jerk !
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:51 pm
Lara Kawchinski says:
This absolutely is graffiti and should be dealt with appropriately by the authorities no matter the age of the offender. Children like her need to learn a lesson about common decency and not mar our sidewalks with unsightly drawings and childs games. This is no different than not cleaning up after one's dog! Homeland security and the police are busy enough dealing with terrorist threats WITHOUT having to deal with out of control teens!
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:52 pm
John says:
This is the way the world ends/Not with a bang but a whimper.
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:53 pm
Steve says:
What complete and utter nonsense. The fact that it made the paper is amazing. I think the person who dialed 311 is an absolute slime ball. May someone spray paint his house so that he can enjoy the true definition of "grafitti." :-)
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:53 pm
Narkotik says:
She got pwnt.
/end story
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:55 pm
not funny says:
yip!THROW HER OUT OF TOWN! just kidding. she should be sent money , let,s help her out!
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:55 pm
Chuckee Chesse says:
This is a BIG BAD CITY taking away what used to be fun and washes away... I am just amazed that what used to be accepted as fun is now a crime. If it were atttacking remarks, racial slurs, slandering others than that could be a different.
I guess no rains or snow falls in New York city
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:56 pm
flossmore says:
Just another fine example of the "know it alls" trying to run our lives! There are bad people out there who want to kill someone. Why......why would you pick on an innocent young girl using some totally safe and water soluble sidewalk chalk? Go crack a felon and leave us normal people alone.
Idiots!
Oct. 16, 2007, 2:59 pm
Laura says:
What a soap opera!
Oct. 16, 2007, 3 pm
JIM ROBINSON says:
CONNONSENSE IS GONE GET USED TO IT!
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:01 pm
Mike says:
I guess since all of the cities other problems are resolved they have the time to summons a six year old girl. Good job! (not)
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:02 pm
Red State resident. says:
Sorry comrades, peoples republic of New York will not tolerate expression other than the pre-approved politically correct state dogma. Please submit any other material before Politburo member Bloomberg for the party stamp of approval. Please return to your Blue state activities of fostering class equality.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:03 pm
Lawmakers Need jobs says:
Dumb. No common sense. More loss of freedom. Stupid cops with no common sense. Idiot lawmakers making idiotic laws to justify their existence. No view of the big picture. Money making schemes for poorly run local governments. Power trips for stupid nits. Another declaration of dependence on rigid law to make up for the death of common courtesy.

Oct. 16, 2007, 3:05 pm
flossmore says:
Oh....and one more thing !! Don't ever.......ever......ever ever even THINK, of saying the word "god"....Good God they'd lock your butt away in a Somali prison!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:05 pm
bigsmokecigar says:
Government gone insane.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:14 pm
M Quick says:
I'll GLADLY pay that $300 fine for Natalie and her family!

Isn't this country getting alittle TOO sensitive! GROW UP PEOPLE!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:22 pm
Chris-Naples,Fl says:
In the city of Naples, code enforcement shut down a little girls lemonade stand. NO PERMIT.
Kids can't have any fun anymore. There are plenty of sidewalks in Naples. Come on down.
We the people of Naples, had the mayor saying he was sorry. Stay sweet,Natalie.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:28 pm
Nancy says:
Give me a Break. This is pure Stupidity at work. So lets see - no more Hopscoth, no more 4th square - The whole Crayola company better shut down - because next thing you know someone's going to sue them because they didn't put a warning on the Chalk box - that using this could cause a Fine with the City officials........
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:29 pm
lisa says:
WHAT A WORLD WE LIVE IN WHERE 6 YEAR OLD INNOCENT KIDS WHO JUST WANT TO PLAY ARE NOW BEING TARGETING BY IDIOT GOVERNMENTS AND NEIGHBORS. WHY DON'T THEY DEAL WITH ACTUAL CRIME MAYBE OR IS THAT TOO HARD FOR THEM???
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:30 pm
Jim Cheyenne WY says:
It appears that Kathy Dawkins NEEDS to get a life, Leave the Kid Alone, I am sure that you can find somthing in the Sanitation department that would need yopur sub-standard intellect.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:30 pm
Borat says:
I must know one thing. Do local party officials in NYC have no thing better to do? Why garbage police have to harrass cute little girl by making her artistic crook with chalk? If this is case, then all chalk pictures drawn on school blackboards all over NYC are graffiti. After all, who give permission to draw on wall surface of public building? Does any person have it in writing from school board peoples?
Little Natalie, you draw. Borat come and look at your wonderful artwork.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:34 pm
peter says:
THE STUPID COPS SHOULD GET A LIFE, WOW,BIG CRIME HERE!!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:36 pm
dumb says:
wow. a story gets linked by drudge and all the idiots come out to call new yorkers commies. brilliant.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:39 pm
MATT GANIS says:
WOW..I GREW UP IN MANHATTAN BEACH AND WE CHALKED UP ALL THE STREETS WITH BASES TO PLAY PUNCHBALL AND STICKBALL. AND ALL THE SIDEWALKS WERE ADORNED WITH ALL KINDS OF CHALKING. I AM 57 YEARS OLD..AND AM AMAZED AT THE INTOLERANCE. I AM GLAD I NOW LIVE IN ARIZONA,WHERE CHALK ON THE STREET IS STILL NOT CONSIDERING A MISDEAMONOR. IN FACT, I AM SO ANGRY..GO RED SOX!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:39 pm
William says:
Just unbelievable.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:41 pm
Grape says:
signs of the times; the j-offs have taken over everything. What if I wanted to have a Stickball game using a wall(remember that); and chalked a strike zone
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:41 pm
Grape says:
signs of the times; the idiots have taken over everything. What if I wanted to have a Stickball game using a wall(remember that); and chalked a strike zone
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:41 pm
jack g says:
“I do love that kid,” Shea said, “but I wish she would stop capping my tags.”

funny line
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:42 pm
Macon says:
Whoever called 311 over this is a sad, sad person.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:43 pm
PropHet says:
I think a ton of people should go to the neighborhood with chalk and make pretty drawings. See that neighbors face when everyone is doing it. It washes away with a little water. So ban together and start drawing.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:45 pm
badizzle says:
I bet you a thousand palestinians it was an old jewish —— that called in that complaint.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:48 pm
Scott says:
I guess when the cops come across a murder scene in NYC they won't be doing any chalk outlines around the bodies anymore then?
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:50 pm
Clark Fultz says:
"Aw - Ain't it grand!" New York's finest out catching desparate criminals! Have to hand it to NYC - controlling these notorious, six year old crime-crazed chalk artists certainly makes for safer, more sanitary sidewalks. Why, I feel safer already, just knowing I won't have chalk on the botton of my shoes. Now if they could only spend a little more time on those street muggers and drive-by shooters. Since that neighbor appears to have time on his hands, perhaps he could help out here too and really do something useful.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:52 pm
Rufus Fender says:
It's about time these little chalk criminals are brought to justice. She will know better after she serves 25 to life -- you have to ask, why does this little girl hate freedom?
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:53 pm
omg says:
Are you kidding me?
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:53 pm
Mel says:
Unreal.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:54 pm
mark says:
f'ng unbelievable...police state is here...the constitution is dead
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:55 pm
Billy says:
Absolutley outrageous!!!!!!!
This is the type of PC conservative BS that is ruining this country. Our liberties are constantly being taken away one by one and this case just proves that before we know it we will be policed on every aspects of our lives. Let kids be kids they are already growing up to quick as it is due to advertisements, media and television. I personally think that little girls artwork is fantastic and she can come to my Fort Greene stoop and draw anytime.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:56 pm
Office Muldoon says:
Those copos could be out busting a pot smoker or inspecting donuts for sprinkle fraud!
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:57 pm
ari says:
this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. She's 6 -- and drawing with chalk that will wash off when it rains. How can we stifle kids' creativity? What's next -- shutting down the schools because a kid accidentally drew on the table during art class?
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:58 pm
Chuckie says:
Get a life, leave the kids alone....would you rather they start stealing, or shooting up people....This country and its over regulation has got to STOP!

Geezeee.....you'd think we were ina communist country.



Oct. 16, 2007, 3:59 pm
John in San Diego says:
The little —— is acting. The photo of her drawing on a sidewalk has her looking like a happy little girl (albeit with a mischevious grin); and the photo of her with the letter has her frowning. It's obvious her mother told her to act that way. Disgusting.
Oct. 16, 2007, 3:59 pm
Carolina says:
You see, a neighbor who does this sort of crap in South Carolina would have this girl's dad show up on their doorstep with a 12 guage shotgun or a ball bat. That neighbor would not want to live there for much longer!!

Yankee= take your personal rights away
Southerner=I'll do what the he-- I want!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 4 pm
maggie says:
what kind of society are we turning into.... this is getting to be soooo ridiculous.....

fines, lawsuits - warning --frivolous infractions and I use that word loosely.

enough already..


Goodness!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:01 pm
Doug Barber says:
Ahh, the wonders of "anonymous complaints." Whoever called this in would have been unlikely to do so had they known that their name would be made public along with their complaint. Whatever became of the right to confront your accuser?
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:02 pm
DR says:
The Department of Sanitation has also acknowledged that they never inspected the alleged "graffiti" incident, and just sent a standard warning letter without knowing whether the allegations even held any weight - which they obviously didn't!
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:02 pm
Vincent VanGaag says:
I feel that the person reporting this little girl should have their mouth washed out with chalk
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:05 pm
billy g says:
wow what a great country, what happen to us? I suppose she should have been inside playing x-box and eating chips..
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:08 pm
Sheriff Rodenberg says:
I'm the elected Sheriff of Clermont County OH and have served for 10 years, being re-elected twice. Your story illustrates a disturbing trend in our society today. Criminalize everything to the point that in many places we are living in a virtual police state. God please save us from the stupidity of bureaucrats!

P.S. "Skateboarding is NOT a crime!"
P.S.S. Natlie's sidewalk art rocks!
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:09 pm
kathy says:
Absurd
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:10 pm
Dan says:
what are you gonna do? find a space where no one will bother you. Rules are rules. Its not big brother, its nosey neighbor.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:10 pm
LeePIII says:
There is seemingly no end to the booger-eating morons infesting bureaucracies around the country. This is simply a further example.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:11 pm
I can read says:
Can the author read? This is what was written:

"No. The law goes on to say that the scribbles can only be called “graffiti” if they are “not consented to by the owner of the commercial building or residential building.” But how could the 311 caller possibly be expected to know if Natalie had her mom’s consent to use chalk on her own front stoop?"

Where do you go from "commercial building or residential building" both of which are PRIVATE PROPERTY to the stoop, which is not private property but public property? Her mom's consent is irrelevant. Now we could pass a general kids can scrawl on public property (like the stoop) but we haven't. Follow.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:12 pm
John says:
The city is getting to be a Concentration Camp with Taxes!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:13 pm
jeannean says:
What's next? Banning tag and dodge ball...citing children for selling lemonade without a permit?? Oh wait a minute tehy did that already!!!
Beyond stupid!
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:13 pm
John says:
The city is getting to be a Concentration Camp with Taxes!!! Glad to be in Texas>
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:13 pm
Greg says:
The nuts are running the asylum. Give me a break. Brooklyn has gone over the edge from common sense to insulting stupidity.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:18 pm
Ltpar says:
It's nice to see that New York doesn't have enough real problems to fix that they have time for harassing a child.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:25 pm
Ltpar says:
It's nice to see that New York doesn't have enough real problems to fix, that they have time for harassing a child.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:26 pm
illady says:
What a bunch of loonies, from the person who called to complain to the police department to the council members. Have you all gone insane? Evidently, yes.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:27 pm
Facetime says:
Which of your slimy photogs got a 6 year old girl to pose with her skirt hiked up like that? You liberal losers in NY, did you have to exploit a little girl for your worthless rag
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:27 pm
Wayne says:
This country is out of control. This is what we pay taxes for so our elected officals ( and our police force ) can come up with these stupid rules. Did these people ever have a childhood?
The worst part is that we have to pay these people to come up with these stuipd rules.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:30 pm
Steve I says:
Petty bureaucrat making themselves needed.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:33 pm
Hank says:
Food Police, Smoke Police, now Chalk Police. Common New york City get a grip. This just makes your city look that more stupid to the rest of the country. Well, sorry San Fransicko is still in the lead.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:34 pm
Eric says:
Citing this little girl goes completely against the "Spirit of the law." This was not meant for little girls drawing flowers and rainbows and —— on the sidewalk in chalk. It's funny how nobody ever calls when crackheads and whores are out on the corner.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:35 pm
The Truth Hurts says:
Can't we get the name of the moron who called in based on the Freedom of Information Act?
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:36 pm
George says:
This is ridiculous. Kids are not allowed to do chalk drawings? What's next - not allowing to fly kites?

Yet another example of blindly following protocol without using one's head. Similar reasoning is used to search 80-year-old wheelchair-bound ladies for explosives at airports.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:37 pm
Hector says:
Charger her...we are a nation of laws
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:39 pm
Hector says:
Charge her...we are a nation of laws
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:39 pm
Eileen says:
I believe the key word is "with intent to damage property" ...where is there intent here.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:40 pm
eileen says:
I believe the key phrase "with intent to damage said property"....where is that intent here?
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:42 pm
Beesh says:
Graffiti is "...drawn, painted, chiseled, scratched, or etched ON (emphasis is mine) a commercial building or residential building.” A stoop is not ON a building, but part of the access walkway.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:42 pm
thinkaboutit says:
Shame on you, neighbor, for demonstrating to a six-year-old how to be a moron. You don't even have to backbone to talk to her mother face-to-face before filing a complaint? What a waste of police resources. And we wonder why some kids grow up to become callous and worse.

May Natalie gather from this 1) how not to treat people 2) and how to cultivate patience when people are hurtful. Bless you, kid.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:45 pm
Alyce Decker says:
How absurd can the City of New York get?
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:47 pm
Good says:
I don't give a damn if you're six or sixty, the law still applies to you. The public sidewalk isn't your god damn easel. If you want to draw, by a pad of paper and go inside. I'm so frigging tired of idiots acting like something is okay just because it's done by a kid.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:49 pm
Josh says:
The piece of —— who called 311 should be exterminated, or turned into food if possible. NEXT!
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:49 pm
Leonard Miller says:
Yeah! But, does the local governemt report illegal aliens to ICE, or just houind little girls? Our local governments, at whatever level are totally out of control.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:52 pm
baltoga says:
Another reason not to elect Clinton!
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:53 pm
Scott in Wisconsin says:
Move to Wisconsin. We may not have the awesome restaurants you do in NY, but we are family friendly!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:53 pm
Meh says:
Maybe I don't want my neighborhood riddled with idiotic drawings by kids, no matter how temporary they are. Let your kid go in your house and screw around with your walls. Or give them a pad of paper to draw on. There is no reason for them to be devaluing my property by making my neighborhood look like a ——ing kindergarten.

This is the problem with you ——ing breeders. You squirt out your god damn kids, let them do whatever the —— they please and the rest of us have to deal with it. They're your mistakes --- YOU DEAL WITH IT.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:54 pm
Steve says:
I find it totally rediculous that they would criminalize innocent chalk drawings by kids. I remember as a kid, we all use to have fun making drawings with chalk. We don't want kids getting into mischief but how can we do that if we tell the kids you can't do something innocent as a drawing made of chalk?
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:56 pm
Danny says:
And we wonder why some neighbors just snap and shoot their fellow man... maybe it's because they just couldn't put up with the stupidity that is allowed around here. I PRAY TO GOD that all the neighbors call in to report this moron is he spits on the sidewalk, jaywalks, or does any similar thing.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:59 pm
Ben says:
Meh, you are a pathetic soul who needs to wake up from your pathetic existence. Chalks WASHES AWAY!!!!!! Too bad your hate doesn't.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:59 pm
John says:
The text size for this website is way too small.
Oct. 16, 2007, 4:59 pm
Bob says:
Ah - the big city cess pools.
What's happened to common sense in this country?

The little girl was playing.
Whomever called to complain needs to get a life.
And so do the people who acted upon the complaint.


Bob
Colorado
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:02 pm
HireMe to fix your web pages says:
Noone can see the Reader Feedback - there's an error on your web page for the "New Face of Vandalism?" story, when 'View discussion' is pressed nothing happens.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:02 pm
ToniK says:
I would urge anyone involved in law enforcement to check out Facetime. Anyone that has such problems that they think an innocent hot of a 6 year old in a sexual way is one sick and perverted individual and may or may not have acted on their urges.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:03 pm
ingramdr says:
Just another bunch of liberal politicains complaining much about nothing. Instead of catching hard core criminals, they go after little girls. Way to go New York. No wonder I don't live there........
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:04 pm
sarah says:
This is so retarded everybody has drew on a sidewalk this isnt new and those neighbors r retarded 4 doing that like they didnt do it when they were little they need to grow up
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:05 pm
sarah says:
This is so retarded everybody has drew on a sidewalk this isnt new and those neighbors r retarded 4 doing that like they didnt do it when they were little they need to grow up and besides when u draw on the sidewalk with chalk that isnt called grafiiti
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:06 pm
Brian says:
What are we telling out kids these days? Children still young enough to have their innocence intact? I will answer.

Homosexual sex is good, and so you must respect all homosexuals, bisexuals, transexuals, and any other "transgender" person for who they are.

Innocent chalk drawings on the sidewalk are bad. Especially if it disparages another religious, ethnic or lifestyle group in any way. Please refer to penal code xxxx for details, kids.

Playing is okay, just no scorekeeping because that is bad for people's self-esteem. And no playing unless you invite all Muslims and all those with alternate lifestyles.

Unbelievable. Why did yesterday's hippies do this to us?
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:07 pm
Steve McNeill says:
Get a life Brooklyn, leave the little girl alone. Go out and catch a rapist or a child molester.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:08 pm
Steve says:
Geez, all you New Yawkers are all bonkers.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:09 pm
Jack Mehoffer says:
Little harlot.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:11 pm
Jack Mehoffer says:
Brian, what about homosexual Muslim chalk painters?
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:12 pm
Jim says:
When is this kind of nonsense going to stop. How much longer do we as citizens have to be regulated to this degree. I understand the intent of the law, but come on. I wonder whether or not we are a democracy anymore or are going more towards a parlimentary system, or worse, communistic state.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:12 pm
karl marx says:
velcome to amereka
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:13 pm
Jim B says:
Heard later that day in the same neighborhood...

"OK BUDDY - DROP THE CANE AND TELL THE DOG TO FREEZE!"
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:16 pm
conservatives are the only hope for america says:
I am so glad i don not live in the filth centered liberal communist scum pit that is not only NYC but all of the east coast. Nothing good comes from the east coast and it would be better for the United States to allow liberal communist states like Vermont and New York to leave the Union. Barak Obama is the Antichrist
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:18 pm
George says:
In this day and age, people in positions of authority seem to be lacking common sense and good judgement. It just not Brooklyn, it's everywhere there is excessive government.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:19 pm
Todd says:
the solution to this is simple - the police and city agencies need to disregard any and all 311 complaints that are anonymous.

This should be in the city code.

If nosy neighbors can't stand up to the plate and make their identities known, their opinion is irrelevant.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:19 pm
John Tidball says:
They are obviously out of their minds. Someone needs to take their toys away.
Stupid government **sholes!
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:22 pm
Ace says:
Keystone cop type of agency who cited her.

Hooray for those other cops who let her go!

Nanny state. Can't suck your thumb without the communist leftists tossing you in jail.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:23 pm
Deanna says:
What a petty neighhbor. The neighbor should be fined for being stupid. What a world we live in when a little kid can't do sidewalk chalk. Ugh! Down with the nosey, lousy neighbor.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:27 pm
Daisy says:
The revenge of the bureaucrats is in full force. This is in the same league as the possible murder of Mrs. Gotbaum - arrested for being angry for God's sake!!! Something's got to give. Who's watching the cops?
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:31 pm
Chris L says:
What kind of no life loser would even consider calling 311 to report such a thing!! You have got to be kidding me!!! I have read and heard of some really dumb things to get upset about, but sidewalk chalk drawings!!!!!? Get a life loser and to the public official who actually tried to justify sending the letter to cease and desist is a common every day bueracratic moron that makes our government branches (local state or federal) the inept organizations they are. Get a clue people!!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:39 pm
Abe says:
Yes, go after little girls drawing in chalk on sidewalks. It is much easier than trying to stop the epidemic of black crime.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:40 pm
JIM BEAVERS says:
"But if Dawkins is right, ...than... the city has just criminalized hopscotch or drawing arrows to point neighbors towards a stoop sale down the block — as long as a neighbor calls 311 to complain."


It's then not than. Shame on you.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:41 pm
Dan/NC says:
“any letter, word, name, number, symbol, slogan, message, drawing, picture, writing … that is drawn, painted, chiseled, scratched, or etched on a commercial building or residential building.”

since when is a sidewalk considered a "building"?

it sounds like some city employees have no constructive work to keep them busy - fire them and reduce taxes
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:46 pm
Mike says:
I think you meant to use the word "then" there, Mr. Beavers.

Anyway, the dad's quote at the end is friggin classic.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:46 pm
Joe Papp says:
Do like Iran. Hang her!
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:51 pm
Common Sense says:
Do not the traffic control officers mark tires of vehicles so that they can tell if they have been moved or not. If so isn't that use of chalk in violation of the city's law against the intent to mark public or private property with intent to do damage to such property. Have they researched what chalk will do to the rubber on tires? Yes it can be washed away or wear off from driving but they are doing the same thing this little six year old is doing. Marking a surface. Someone in the Government there needs to get a life and understand children more. My Gosh, they will rather give out condoms and birth control to kids than to allow them to be just that KIDS. Especially KIDS with imaginations and talent. What are we doing to our CHILDREN making them drug induced, mind numb robots that have no personality, no feelings towards their fellow neighbors. This is really sad.
Oct. 16, 2007, 5:56 pm
libsukbad says:
Another great example of liberalism run amok, anyone who ever votes democrat should hang their heads in shame, keep your elitist crap on the coast we don't want it. Neo-stalins suck.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:04 pm
Nick says:
Ridiculous. What's next, citing children with disorderly conduct for playing too loud? What a fine state NY is in....
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:04 pm
Kevin Bannister says:
No way, this has to be a joke right? If I was the mayor I would immediately fire everyone involved since they've proven they are too stupid to be city employees.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:05 pm
godzilla07 says:
I thought that graffiti had to cause permanent damage and can't be easily removed. Chalk doesn't fall into either category. Doesn't the NYPD have crimminals to arrest?
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:06 pm
M B says:
Simply ridiculous.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:08 pm
Solid Citizen says:
Another example of the Bloomberg inspired tyranny
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:08 pm
william sadler says:
this is the new america democrats want, where people snitch out little girls, where we are told what to drive, what to eat, what to think, the new nazi party is the party of death, the democrat party, which is led by and infested with traitors, felons, perverts and misfits
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:09 pm
Larry Kalteich says:
Does Julie Rosenberg live near the "Wicked Witch of the East"? That's about the only neighbor I can think of that her art would bother!
Neighbors should "raise up" against the person that made the call. Slightest irregularity or potential issue and I would report them until they "got the message"!
I hear about people like this and it make me angry beyond belief! Kids have it tough enough in today's world and the Julie Rosenberg's of any neighborhood should be encouraged to continue their creative activities.
Let's channel our energy toward things in our neighborhoods that "really matter!"
To the complaintant; Whoever you are, "Get a Real Life and stop the pettiness!"
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:09 pm
Paul J. says:
This is simply another example of the major flaw in zero tolerance application of law. Instead of applying common sense to a situation, they apply the full letter of the law. So instead of dealing with real graphitti that requires public funds to remove, they fine a child for a drawing that will wash away in the next rain. Instead of searching for the root causes of school violence, they expell children for making drawings or writing stories that express their anger or frustration.

Zero tolerance is the coward's way out of actually dealing sensibly or responsibly with situations.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:10 pm
Donaldson says:
I am waiting now for the video of when the cops show up, taser the girl and her mom, drag them into the squad car and put the chalk in little plastic bags marked evidence.

Should be a good one.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:11 pm
audrey says:
assinine and petty-Get a life in another country.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:11 pm
MFF0072 says:
The first thing that struck me when I saw the articel and picture was the provocative way she was photographed. How could any editor let that kind of picture be published? All the pedophiles thank him very much. Shame on him for letting this be the photo to explain the story!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:13 pm
xasxs says:
This is what happens when you dont talk to your neigbours and feel no sense of community in a the histility of an inner city. This wouls not happen in Kansas.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:18 pm
Smilinjack says:
What is the world coming to? This is asinine!! I grew up in Brooklyn, we chalked all the time. Holy cow!! I used to be proud to call NY "home" but, now I'm happy as hell I'm out of that loony bin!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:19 pm
chalk says:
Donaldson: and if she died during the process, they would have to chalk mark the area of the body and ticket themselves, then the whole insane process would begin again. If it rained then there would not be an issue !
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:21 pm
ashley says:
This is the most ridiculous thing I have heard in quite some time. Where are kids in the city supposed to get creative with chalk? It will wash off when it rains, no harm done. People need to worry about much bigger issues than chalk on a sidewalk or porch. When are people going to chill out or —— about something that matters?
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:21 pm
AndrejM says:
Truly the end of Innocence is being brought in on sidewalk chalk graffiti charges by an anonymous caller. Can't really blame the sanitation department if all they were given as a description was "graffiti" however it would seem that some sort of investigation should take place prior to the issuing of such a fine. And in this case upon learning that the graffiti in question was in fact
flowers comprised of multicolored chalk, one would assume that the sanitation department would chalk ( pun intended) this up to grumpy old man "get off my lawn" type of neighborhood drama. This is quite a mark ( puns are fun) on the city of new York if this goes through.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:22 pm
Scott Moore says:
How about I have my 5 year old nephew spray paint your house Orange? Sidewalk chalk is defacing property and I wish they finally put an end to it
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:23 pm
Danimal says:
You are all overreacting. It's some grouchy old guy who complained. We should all laugh it off rather than make this another left wing right wing shouting match. You guys are getting out of hand with that anyway. Argue, about the war.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:25 pm
Orwell says:
The Police-State is well on its way! Just last week, (drudgereport) a man was sent to prison for 30 years for stealing a doughnut, yes, a doughnut.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:25 pm
Shinea says:
If this had been a 15 year old, black boy would you be defending his ability to freely express himself so rabidly? I don't think so. There is a good reason for zero tolerance, it is so racist will not get to decide who is allowed to break the law.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:25 pm
Jay says:
When are the people of New York gonna quit electing idiots.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:26 pm
Michael Kirkby says:
Man, I thought it was bad enough with the torte lawyers and all their silly cases. For goodness sake she's six years old and it's chalk. I hate grafitti too but this is entirely anal retentive. What does that say about the neighbor when there are usually more serious complaints to compain about?
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:28 pm
John says:
Absolutely ridiculous
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:29 pm
libfroun94 says:
okay, first of all, FRONT DOOR STEP, as in PERSONAL PROPERTY...
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:29 pm
A Mom of 4 kids.... says:
This is ridiculous!!! Let the little girl be a little girl!!! This is NOT a political thing!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:30 pm
Joshua says:
In a world where Al Gore gets a Nobel Peace Prize for an alarmist movie with dubious scientific "fact", why not prosecute this little girl to the fullest extent of the law. Both things make the same amount of sense.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:31 pm
LabTroll says:
She committed a crime, pure and simple. She should be punished, and a $300 hit on her parents will perhaps ensure that the little vandal gets punished.
Of course the parents are making excuses, instead of encouraging the brat to obey the law.
I'll wager that if the little vandal had done this to the Brooklyn Paper's building, they'd be crying for her and her parents to serve time in jail, which they should.
No tolerance for crime!
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:32 pm
A Mom.. says:
Let the little girl be a Little girl!!!! This is ridiculous!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:32 pm
Christine says:
Let the little girl be a Little girl!!!! This is ridiculous!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:33 pm
Jeff (Los Angeles) says:
Apparently 311 is the tool upon which the prudes will take over the world.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:34 pm
Shangul says:
wHICH CITY IS THIS? i DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THIS CITY EVER IN MY LIFE... YAAAAAAAAAAAAG, TERRRRRRRRRRRRR, BBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH, AH AH AH , OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUG, OG OG OG OG OG GO GO GO GO OG OG OG, EH EH EH, RELEASING.....
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Thanks, I have emptied it all on the city hall.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:34 pm
Jeff (Los Angeles) says:
311 is apparently the tool with which the prudes will take over the world.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:34 pm
McGehee says:
Only in Nanny Bloomberg's New York.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:36 pm
shangul says:
I do TERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR on that city's City Hall and staff. Who are these dickheads? How could you accuse a child? Is not that Child Abuse? I pity you morons!!! I really do ):
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:39 pm
Bob says:
She'd been asked not to do it before and decided to ignore the requests. If she insists on marking something up, I'm sure her parent wouldn't mind if she posted her artwork on the living room walls...or Christine's perhaps.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:40 pm
Robert Sciolino says:
Classic example of what happens when we cede baisc common sense to government. People think everytime there is a problem that a new law must be created. They never stop to think that with every new law a lttle more of our basic freedoms crumbles away. If this though of mine seems far fetched then what do you call issuing a citation to a six-year-old girl from drawing on a sidewalk? All this does is prove the theory that we are not as free a people as we were thrity years ago.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:40 pm
Robert Sciolino says:
Classic example of what happens when we cede basic common sense to government. People think everytime there is a problem that a new law must be created. They never stop to think that with every new law a lttle more of our basic freedoms crumbles away. If this though of mine seems far fetched then what do you call issuing a citation to a six-year-old girl from drawing on a sidewalk? All this does is prove the theory that we are not as free a people as we were thrity years ago.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:40 pm
hektor says:
Drawing on sidewalks is what everyone did as kids.
The little girl shouldn't be punished for something child-like.
We should be glad that in these time there are still some kids that remain kids.
Most kids her age are growing up way too fast.

Also when we would draw on sidewalks, all it took was some water to make it fade away.

NOTHING PERMANENT, NO DAMAGE!
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:42 pm
Shangul says:
Good thing they didn't relate that to a 9/1l or classify it under terror attack. Shame on you NYC with your idiotic city by-laws...SHAME....
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:43 pm
Hektoreo says:
Drawing on sidewalks is what everyone did as kids.
The little girl shouldn't be punished for something child-like.
We should be glad that in these time there are still some kids that remain kids.
Most kids her age are growing up way too fast.

Also when we would draw on sidewalks, all it took was some water to make it fade away.

NOTHING PERMANENT, NO DAMAGE!
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:43 pm
Jeff says:
disgusting.
311 is a real problem. It's too easy for miserable, pathetic losers to call and anonymously complain about whatever pops into their head.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:44 pm
jake says:
Do the people who turned in the young girl realize they need to seek professional counseling?
"only in New York!"
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:45 pm
Shangul says:
I would like to FAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRT On the face of alll city halls members who support the fine... I also encourage drawing on all city buildings....
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:46 pm
Christine ..mom of four says:
This is ridiculous!!!! She's 6 years old!!!
Are you kidding me???
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:46 pm
Alexis says:
How can the Sanitation Department issue a summons in the first place? Their job is to collect rubbish and sweep the streets. Is there a Sanitation Police? If they make arrests, do they take the person into custody by locking them in a garbage can, and take it to the city dump perhaps on Riker's Island?

For crying out loud, leave the little child alone! Be happy that she is creative and any chaulk can be washed away by a hose or the rain.
It's not permanent like painted graffiti or scratching windows of subway trains.

Busy body bureaucrats...Clean up your own mess, tend to your job, and leave the rest of the citzenry alone!
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:47 pm
David says:
Man!!! I am just glad we live in a free country.
If not I would think we were living in Mayberry
and Barny was sheriff.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:47 pm
Shangul says:
Jake what you say makes total sense
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:47 pm
Jeff says:
disgusting.
311 is a real problem. It's too easy for miserable, pathetic losers to call and anonymously complain
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:47 pm
Jake says:
Thanks Shangul. Jeff what is your problem?
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:49 pm
David says:
According to local law 111 which you quoted as saying, Council passed local law 111 in 2005, which defined “graffiti” as “any letter, word, name, number, symbol, slogan, message, drawing, picture, writing … that is drawn, painted, chiseled, scratched, or etched on a commercial building or residential building.”

When has a sidewalk become a building?
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:51 pm
Aisha Mom of 9 (One is on the way...) says:
This is absurd. Blease, don't do this to a little girl. Why do you do this? she is a girl. like my little girl. don't do this. this is not good for child psychology. she will grow up with a grouch.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:53 pm
Rich in Nebraska says:
I can only wish that chalk sales go through the roof. Obviously the Department of Sanitation needs to be taught a lesson in common sense. Chalk will disappear after the first rain or a bucket of water. I can't believe that a city flunky has the balls to cite that family. I always said that the safest place to hide is deep within a big governmental bureaucracy.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:53 pm
Manhattaknight says:
Yeah, New York does suck. I don't know why I live here when I could be in the suburbs with access to a Wal*Mart every three miles. You just can't find deals like TGI Fridays "Three Courses for $12.99" around here! We must be real idiots for cramming every race, religion and creed into a few square miles and making it work. Shoot, if you can't find it in a strip mall it ain't worth lookin at!

Of course this situation is idiotic. But where do you get off thinking this a New York thing? The amount of compromise and civility that is exhibited during every morning commute in this city is more than your sheltered, sanitized, picket-fenced existence requires in a lifetime.

Get a grip - after you hit that drive-thru, of course!
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:55 pm
Jow blow says:
All the people who are with me on this, Lets go to city hall and —— on the building pavement.
Oct. 16, 2007, 6:58 pm
Yephora says:
Normal children are paying for the misbehaviors of the lower class. It's a shame.
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:04 pm
Hambone GPT BKNY says:

How ridiculous!!!

Best quotes EVER by the parents though.

Hilarious! Laugh out loud funny.

Oct. 16, 2007, 7:05 pm
Jeff says:
The neighbor who reported the little girl for playing on the street did not use good judment. She is a little girl who is having fun by writing on the street with a chalk board and playing a game. She is no gang member or adult person graffiting the streets. Does this person, who reported her, know anything about being a kid and drawing squares on the sidewalk to play the game of hopscotch. I tell that neighbor to get a life and let a kid play.
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:05 pm
John says:
Its all about money. Noting about keeping the streets clean. Mr. Bloomber will ticket you for everything you do. But the street are no more cleaner than under the previous mayor.
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:09 pm
Ah, I see the Nazis have taken over NYC... says:
Some one should put Cathy Dawkins in jail for stupidity on the public's money. What a jerk.
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:17 pm
howl says:
Funny, what is our world coming to? I guess it's also against the law for a kid to have a lemonade stand?




Oct. 16, 2007, 7:27 pm
Joseph says:
Simply because they can. Because we let them. :(
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:29 pm
Trike says:
When we get to the point of arguing about a kid's chalk drawing, with all the other problems around us taking over, it illustrates just how utterly stupid we have become. We need to get a grip on reality, and stop bouncing around like a pinball in a PC designed game! Crime, wasted tax money spent by liberal politicians, PC stupidity, and too many willing to actually listen to the sort of mind that makes a kid's sidewalk picture a crime, tells me its time we grow a pair and get to work rebuilding this country, or lose it to such stupidity. If we can't, we can get used to calling each other 'COMRADE' because thats where we will end up!
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:32 pm
Manhattaknight says:
I think the spelling and grammar is the scariest thing about this thread.
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:38 pm
Bruce says:
Government is so ignorant. I'm glad they didn't stop Dick Van Dyke or we would have never had Mary Poppins!
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:45 pm
Taylor says:
Poor kid.

If she was drawing dirty pictures or something...then I could see how someone would take offense, but regular doodles by a child done in CHALK? Come on!
Any NORMAL and LOGICAL person who looked out their window and saw these scribbles would immediately KNOW that they are chalk drawings. I think the complaining neighbor should have to pay the $300 fine for wasting the police's time with this crap!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:46 pm
Dee says:
LEave the children alone IDIOT. Children have the right to express themselves. What ever happen to owning your own property. I guess everyone likes to have others tell you what to do.

Natalies mom and dad should contact the Childrens rights organization. Isnt this also a violation of her CIvil rights... Discrimination against AGE.....and against her first Admendment right Freedom to express oneself...

Or is it because she can not donate millions to these politicans who create these Idiotic laws.
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:48 pm
Patrick Curry says:
What idiots inhabit the bureauracracy of the City of New York? Citing a kid for drawing with chalk on the sidewalk? What's next, banning hopscotch? Stickball? A game of catch? The City of New York should apologize to this little girl and her family. What the bureaucrats did in citing this activity is SS-style petty harassment. Hang your head in shame, New York, until this stupidity is erased from your records.
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:49 pm
Terry says:
I bet there wouldn't be an issue if she chalked out "Vote for Hillary".
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:51 pm
F Stockton, Pittsburgh says:
A nation run by idiots doesn't have much of a future. Goodnight, America.
Oct. 16, 2007, 7:56 pm
Fred in Chicago says:
What's wrong with this country? Let kids be kids! It may be illegal but what idiot wrote the law? New York...you are all crazy! Guess that's why you have Ms —— for a senator.
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:02 pm
Sad says:
Seems our society has lost its ability to apply judgement. Not just here, but every where! Outlawing tag in Colorado. Indicting teenagers as felons for putting dry-ice in plastic bottles in their backyard. Let's remember Bruce Nifong spent a night in jail for nearly destroying the lives of innocent players. If you or I had done something similar, but not as part of the state, Lord help us. Sadly, I believe most DAs and their staffs are closer to Nifong, than up holders of justice. Anyone remember Richard Jewell - who paid? Who was fired? Who went to jail for making an obviously false accusation?
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:06 pm
ed says:
I wish that is all our community had to worry about is a child drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:08 pm
Joe Clark says:
Every day, bureacrats prove that They are the
greatest threat to AMERICA!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:10 pm
James Mattingly says:
I'm very happy for the good people of Brooklyn. It's obvious to me that your local government employee's are truly earning every cent they are paid. Your law enforcement officials have done an excellent job of cleaning up the streets as evidenced by the seriousness of the criminal acts they are pursuing. And your elected representatives and councilmen are proving that their excellent leadership ability. I think they deserve a raise. Please support your next tax increase so that the rest of America can enjoy the humor.
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:10 pm
ed kaser says:
I wish that is all our community had to worry about is a child drawing on the sidewalk with chalk.
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:11 pm
Dave says:
The truth is that common sense (especially in NYC) is not as common as it once was!
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:12 pm
jwmboyd@blomand.net says:
Little girl's sidewalk drawing:
Another example of how our governments are run by damned fools (not profanity, but accurate description). JWB
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:13 pm
Charles Dickens says:
The LAW is an ASS
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:20 pm
former NYer now in Maine says:
People in Brooklyn neighborhoods are such busy bodies. They lean out of their windows and yell at the kids for having fun. Maybe the young lady should have been inside watching TV and getting fat like the fat ***** in Brooklyn. My sidewalk right now is covered with chalk drawing from kids having fun. They'll most likely be gone tomorrow washed away by rain.
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:21 pm
bob says:
Go afterr the idiot who complained and send the person to a communist state where the person belongs.
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:22 pm
Dr Doom says:
Were I the girl's father I would consider beating the stuffing out of the neighbor that complained. In the dark. Wearing a mask. With no witnesses. Time to teach these authoritarian law and order rightwingers that they can't get away with their crap.
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:22 pm
michael says:
Where's my chalk, i'm going outside right now to write something.
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:23 pm
Bob says:
Go afterr the idiot who complained and send the person to a communist state where the person belongs.
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:23 pm
alsharpton says:
Iz outraged!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:24 pm
Tony says:
If you get mugged, DO NOT have the nerve to bleed on the sidewalk or you'll be cited for graffiti!
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:26 pm
Susie Lawson says:
Let the children be children you idiots
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:32 pm
Sharon says:
I would think that New York has better things to do than harrass 6 year olds drawing stick pictures-----like maybe stopping the Clinton machine from all the evil they actually do---
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:33 pm
dennis says:
they should find all involved and fire them immediately...
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:33 pm
Sharon says:
I would think that New York has better things to do than harrass 6 year olds drawing stick pictures-----leave the child alone
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:35 pm
Tony says:
No words can describe how stupid this is.
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:37 pm
Bombshelter.org says:
"To create a work of art that the critic cannot even begin to talk about ought to be the artist's chief concern."
-- John Ashbery

"Life is like stepping into a boat which is about to sail out to sea and sink."
-- Suzuki Roshi

Taste our Starbursts Earthling!
Goto http://CosmoCorps.org
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:39 pm
Glen Livingston says:
I am certainly glad the I love in freedom loving Portland Oregon. I applaud those who are outraged by the City Fathers in New York City becoming insensed about the obscene graffiti drawings of a six year old girl. No wonder people are energizing to vote against ex-Mayor Rudy and his freedom depriving followers who are so pro-gopvt. as opposed to standing up for freedom loving people and creative free artists like the six year old.
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:45 pm
Ann says:
Leave the poor child alone, let her draw!
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:46 pm
Ann says:
Leave the poor child alone, let her draw!
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:48 pm
tommys says:
change the law to allow chalk.have everyone call
elected city council members.thanks
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:48 pm
Di says:
That's what happens when liberals are in charge, It becomes a crime to be a kid. No drawing on sidewalks, no transfats, no dodgeball, no xmas carols yadda yadda yadda
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:49 pm
mark says:
You've got to be kidding
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:56 pm
lambear says:
This is so ridiculous. Why not spend energy on more important issues like feeding the homeless.
Oct. 16, 2007, 8:59 pm
Mike says:
This Six year old may be part of a terrorist cell

Homeland security has to be call in as well as CIA FBI

Where was she on 9/11 We have to ask Alex Jones




Oct. 16, 2007, 9:03 pm
Bruce says:
American politics - local, state and federal - caters to those crazed and shameless individuals in need of attention. Any one of us could complain about or sue another for passing gas in the other's presence; if you can smell the foul air, the molecular stench has landed on your skin, hair, and clothing ..... requiring you to bath and pay cleaning bills. Laughable, but true. Our elected officials and law enforcement need to get back to the basics and stop wasting our tax monies on the few creeps crawling our streets.
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:03 pm
Dad says:
Someone should teach her to close her legs! Or wear appropriate clothes. But then again, this is what I expect from liberal society.
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:04 pm
Fran K says:
This clearly demonstrates the need for a reduction in the size and scope of government at every level.

People insulate themselves behind layers of paper work and an inflated sense of self importance. They remain detached from reality.

It is the responsibility of every citizen at the local levels to overcome this political creep... (read crap). Stop talking about it and get busy reclaiming your government.

Peace.
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:11 pm
Anne Scanlon says:
When will America WAKE UP...it is ok for this child to learn about perverted sex in school ie: homosexual agenda...but she is forbidden to play on the street in front of her own home
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:15 pm
sean says:
This is what happens when we give all are decisions that need to be made to the bureaucrats. Is hopscotch now considered a form of “graffiti”?
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:15 pm
Liz says:
This is absolutely ridiculous..
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:26 pm
Silent Majority says:
Are you Feakin kidding us??????????? Please say you’re kidding right???? What’s next ticketing a little innocent girl, or boy for that matter for not doing their chores on time???? That’s it…… Let’s all give up. Throw in the towel. We are now ready and fully prepared for ripping up our once valued Constitution and God given rights to live free without prejudice in this once great country, and bow to the New World………… God Bless America.
P.S. After this can we go and fine Christ and the pope himself for letting this girl commit such a horridness crime?
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:28 pm
The Silent Majority says:
Are you Feakin kidding us??????????? Please say you’re kidding right???? What’s next ticketing a little innocent girl, or boy for that matter for not doing their chores on time???? That’s it…… Let’s all give up. Throw in the towel. We are now ready and fully prepared for ripping up our once valued Constitution and God given rights to live free without prejudice in this once great country, and bow to the New World………… God Bless America.
P.S. After this can we go and fine Christ and the pope himself for letting this girl commit such a horridness crime?
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:30 pm
Joe Iacovino says:
This is no longer America... be it by Burka or Cross... may Freedom Rest In Peace
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:30 pm
kick juliani says:
It's Juliani's fault!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:34 pm
Daisy says:
"Dad says:
Someone should teach her to close her legs! Or wear appropriate clothes. But then again, this is what I expect from liberal society."

And Daisy says, Dad, you are one sick sicko. Get some help, quick. BTW, before your decide this warning is from a dangerous Liberal - I'm Conservative and you, sir, are not well.
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:35 pm
Ron Pual.... says:
Hahahah yes indeed,>
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:35 pm
Ron Paul... says:
Hahahaha yes indeed BLAME JULIANI!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:37 pm
avenging bastard says:
if anybody can find out who called the cops on the little girl and post their name, i will make sure they mind their own business from now on.
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:38 pm
Ron Paul... says:
Hahahaha yes indeed BLAME JULIANI!!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:38 pm
Ron Paul... says:
avenging bastard Mind your business man!!! It's Juliani's Fault
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:39 pm
Daisy says:
conservatives are the only hope for america says:
" I am so glad i don not live in the filth centered liberal communist scum pit that is not only NYC but all of the east coast. Nothing good comes from the east coast and it would be better for the United States to allow liberal communist states like Vermont and New York to leave the Union. Barak Obama is the Antichrist"

Hey, I'm glad you don't live here too! You don't happen to come from Phoenix by any chance? Just wondering.
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:40 pm
Ron Paul... says:
Hihaaaaa
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:40 pm
Ron Paul... says:
Hihaaaaa hooooooooha
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:40 pm
Ron Paul... says:
Daisy stop it! Thank you.
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:41 pm
Juliani says:
Good job New York. Hey nobody post after this...Im watching you!!!
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:44 pm
suvi says:
I say we all go out and draw on the sidewalk this weekend. We could use a lot more "graffiti" around here.
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:49 pm
Juliani says:
Suvi, didn't you read my post? why did you post? be quite.
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:50 pm
TC says:
gatta luv common sense...
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:51 pm
David says:
Dumn freaking Neighbor that reported a inncent child to the Local Authorities.

Kids well be kids, chalk well wash away easily. These crazy locals seem to forget how they were when they were kids.

Oct. 16, 2007, 9:52 pm
Daisy says:
The neighbor sounds obnoxious and worth ignoring. Why on earth did the police decide to pay attention to this b-tch and ticket a 6 year old for any reason whatsoever?-!! They are going into elementary schools now and arresting kids. It's disgusting. I'm glad this child's parents are handling it all so well .. less traumatic for the girl. What about the parents of the Kindergarten child handcuffed and arrested because she was acting out at school - how are they supposed to console her?
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:53 pm
Artemus says:
Maybe she was playing with chalk because playing tag and dodgeball has been criminalized at her school
Oct. 16, 2007, 9:55 pm
Truth no longer matters says:
Once a society makes truth a moving target, we forfeit the ability to tell the difference between John Wayne Gacy and Mother Theresa. Continuing, society knows no difference between cutting down a tree and killing other humans. We can't tell the difference between Hitler and the U.S. President.

This story typifies this sad direction away from truth, which requires context. A 6yo girl is innocent, but not in the eyes of everyone, as it should be.

Truth is, she's being an innocent 6yo girl. Truth is, the person who called 311 is just looking for a fight.

Oct. 16, 2007, 9:57 pm
bill says:
who would want to live in NY anyway, its as bad as San fransissyco
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:02 pm
Canaduuuuuu says:
_ _ _ _Everybody Come to Canada... _ _ _ _
=-=-=-=-=Land of the Brave-=-=-=-=
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:13 pm
Canaduuuuuu says:
_ _ _ _Everybody Come to Canada... _ _ _ _
=-=-=-=-=Land of the Brave-=-=-=-=
-=-=-=-==-We wont bother you with that sort of tings=-=-=
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:13 pm
Andrew says:
This is just outstanding.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:19 pm
Pat says:
The good news is she has 45 days to remove it.That means she has 44 days to add more drawings!
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:25 pm
ecd says:
these folks in NYC elected Hillary as they're Senator. They deserve all the governmental crap they get. If they can screw something like this ip, imagine what government sponsored healthcare will be like.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:27 pm
Jack Schitt says:
This is even worse than the cop who arrested a lady for swearing about an overflowing toilet in the privacy of her own home. And when he hollered at her from outside, on the sidewalk in front of children, he said "Shut the f*** up!"

Different rules for cops and bureaucrats you understand.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:29 pm
Tom Turner says:
Here's an example of a government that's completely out of control. What a bunch of whackos -- what a silly city. What an embarrassment to our species. I thought nothing could surprise me any more. Wow was I wrong. That poor little girl. Shame on New York for letting this atrocity take place. Everyone involved should loose his/her job.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:34 pm
David F says:
Wow. I was speechless reading this. This a bunch of bureaucratic nonsense. Really nothing more can be said.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:40 pm
Tyler says:
Laws in this country are just nuts. Chalk on sidewalk = fine and punishment for kids now? What has this country come to...to happy to have a clean sidewalk you can't even let a kid have fun with something that easily can go away.

Wow...talk about freedom and pursuit of happiness down the toilet. Thanks rich bureaucrats in gov't making our lives even more tainted by your hands, which you should stay out of!
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:44 pm
Dave says:
Yeah - good for New York. Kids belong indoors playing video games or watching TV. Lets be quick to suppress any creativity we might find.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:46 pm
Yo Yo Yo says:
Three cheers for NYC, its fine watchful citizens, its crackerjack law enforcement, and its benevolent bureaucrats. Today, sidewalk-chalk "vandals," tomorrow, colicky babies who disturb the peace, and for next week, little old ladies on walkers impeding the flow of pedestrian traffic.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:47 pm
Ed Koser - KS says:
Your government is nuts.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:47 pm
Debbie Williams says:
Oh, good grief. Have we nothing better to worry about in this country?

And what does "capping my tags" mean?

Egad.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:48 pm
john964 says:
Ah the stupitity of officus twit beuracrats, so refeshing to see them going after real hard core crime, lets give the kid a few years up state after arresting her using a SWAT team.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:48 pm
roboneko says:
never mind the murderers, rapists, and drug dealers and muggers, NYPD just HAS to save us from those dangerous little 6 year olds and their chalk....God forbid she might draw a smiley face. Oh the terror of it all.

BAD COP! NO DONUT!

Oct. 16, 2007, 10:48 pm
Thomas says:
Obviously the NYPD and the local pols are a bunch of stupid mother——ers.
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:57 pm
Hugo Hackenbush says:
Welcome one and all to the modern police state known as The United States Of America!
Oct. 16, 2007, 10:58 pm
MICHAEL says:
JUST LIKE THE LITTLE CHILD THAT WAS SUSPENDED FOR BRINGING A GUN TO SCHOOL.HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN LIFE.I MEAN IT WAS A EXTREMELY DANGEROUS 2IN G.I.JOE WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION.BOOK EM DANNO?????????????????
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:05 pm
Mary says:
I can't believe it. That is why no one should live in a city...everyone policing everything. Kids need freedom to express and play and explore...not regulations to keep them from enjoying life. I know, just stick Natalie in front of a TV then she will be a zombie...or worse, practice what she sees on TV!! Don't those neighbors have anything better to do?????
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:09 pm
alex campagna says:
give me a breakkkkkkk. how about going and busting up some serious gangs in our cities, instead of picking on little girls?
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:13 pm
Buz says:
Book her Danno
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:17 pm
Michele says:
Why do we want to rob our kids of the joy that we had as kids! Good for us, but not for them?
What has changed? I wonder?
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:20 pm
Andy R says:
..."a call to the NYPD revealed that there’s a lot of gray area."

Gray area in the law is a good thing - it allows intelligent people to make intelligent decisions about how to deal with individual situations.
Unfortunately, the missing link here is intelligence among those empowered to enforce the law.
The solution of course will not be to chastise the mindless bureaucrat who is "doing what it says in the book", but more likely to make the stooge's job easier by formally criminalizing the six-year-old's behavior. That way there is no "grey area" and the lack of "grey matter" among the civil servants in charge of eliminating graffiti can be compensated for in a manner most convenient to the authorities.

I recommend a mass display of civil disobedience via sidewalk chalk if this result comes about.
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:23 pm
JH says:
Focus on bigger crimes and stop bothering little kids. Remember the little kid's lemonade stand that got shut down by the cops? Neighbors need to learn to talk to each other and not rely on the cops to deliver such petty messages.
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:26 pm
Alikospah says:
What is it with letting kids deface the world we have to live in? Chalk or not, I'm not inspired by scrawling distorted images kids draw on everything. When I was a child, my parents provided crayons and paper. Is that too much to ask of the "Sesame" generation? As long as Mom isn't being bothered, the rest of the world has to put up with these brats. "Seen and not heard" doesn't go far enough, do we have to see them and their scrawlings too?
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:35 pm
David Shovan says:
Now, does anyone doubt that liberalism is a mental disorder? It is a slow road to despotism.
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:39 pm
Reason says:
Give me a break. Whoever called 311 should be shot, disemboweled and quartered for being such an ——. These kids live in a concrete box let them have a little fun, it's not hurting anyone.
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:40 pm
kate spiga says:
the parents/grandparents of that kid should purchase a board for her to do all the drawing that she wishes to do. Leave the sidewalk clean of graffiti.
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:41 pm
David Shovan says:
Is there any doubt that liberalism is a mental disorder. Liberalism is a slow road to despotism.
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:43 pm
Brad M says:
I cant believe this girl is in the news. Chalk on the sidewalk is part of the American culture. Have we become a society afraid of Chalk? She didn't use spray paint for Gods sake. I am a Conservative who lives in a red state and I have no problem with kids using Chalk to design pictures on side walks. Shame on NYC for fining this family/girl.
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:45 pm
Michael S says:
Let this be a lesson to all you gangbangers and terrorists..the NYPD doesn't take any crap.I for one, will sleep a lot better tonight knowing New York City's finest are protecting all of us from hardened criminals like this little girl.

Shame on you NYPD. In this day, you have NOTHING BETTER to do? Somewhere tonight theres a NYC cop who knows he really made a difference today.
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:45 pm
Mike says:
Where is Rudy to protect the children of NYC? The United States of Police. Right wing, Republican results of our society. As for George Bush... Hop - scotch to the Heage... The world courts shall judge you. You can read the writing on the walls (or in this case the streets).
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:55 pm
TS Hayes says:
Capping my tags...!!!

Hilarious. The father gets it. The cops, eh, not so much.
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:58 pm
john smith says:
Cute kid. minor infraction the police over react to...... Ok. What's the real agenda here of which the child is caught up ln.
What's a Liberial to do? On that one question hangs the answer to this.
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:58 pm
exmarine says:

Just another reminder of why I have the following bumper sticker on my truck.

"We Don't care how you do it up North"

A Proud Southerner
Oct. 16, 2007, 11:59 pm
David Boothby says:
I can't believe what I just read.6 year old Natalie has a criminal record for drawing on the sidewalk? Has Law Enforcement nothing better to do, And that "neighbor" who called 311, hey let us know who you are--be proud of your phone call.
Let's get little Natalie on the Today show, Good Morning America, David Letterman, etc etc. and let her show our esteemed authorities, those crime fighters, her dastardly evil "graffiti". Keep drawing girl.
Your friend in Los Angeles Calif, David Boothby
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:09 am
davidalanboothby@earthlink.net says:
I can't believe what I just read.6 year old Natalie has a criminal record for drawing on the sidewalk? Has Law Enforcement nothing better to do, And that "neighbor" who called 311, hey let us know who you are--be proud of your phone call.
Let's get little Natalie on the Today show, Good Morning America, David Letterman, etc etc. and let her show our esteemed authorities, those crime fighters, her dastardly evil "graffiti". Keep drawing girl.
Your friend in Los Angeles Calif, David Boothby
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:10 am
bossjim says:
Chalk.... hmm...
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:15 am
Carl says:
And meanwhile New York is considering giving drivers licenses to illegal "immigrants"
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:17 am
jp says:
Here's the department of sanitation of NYC:
crmmail@crm.nyc.gov
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:17 am
jp says:
Here's the department of sanitation of NYC email:
crmmail@crm.nyc.gov
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:17 am
Brad M says:
I think we need to find out what Hillary Clinton thinks of this crime. Does she support the NYC fine?
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:18 am
David Boothby says:
Hey let's put little Natalie on National TV and let the world see her "graffiti" and have some fun with the Brooklyn authorities at the same time. And " friendly neighbor " who called 311 0n Natalie, come out of the shadows and reveal who you are.......be proud of what you've done.

Sincerely, a California friend of Natalie's, David Boothby
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:21 am
Joseph W. Schultz says:
Welcome to America 2007.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:25 am
rowdy says:
6 months ago i started to keep bookmarks for absurd news stories. absurd, as in, the law is absurd. laws which allow neighborhood busy bodies to mess with other peoples lives are not only condoned but appear all over the country. what happened to the concept of civil rights? locally it is against the city code to have grass more than 6 inches tall. so we are paying someone 30 to 40 thousand a year to measure my grass. has this country gone insane? things like this have nothing to do with "this post 9/11 world". this is the result of human idiocy,and it has been going on for years. locally we passed a 1% tax to hire more code enforcement officers to measure my grass. insanity is now the rule.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:28 am
Joe from Lynnwood WA says:
We sure have lost a lot of freedom in the good old USA. This is not the same country that I grew up in when I was a kid in Brooklyn, NY. We used to draw in the street all the time with colored chalk.

Who do you blame? The voters. We need to stop voting for these marxist tyrants and liberal social engineers who are waging war against our freedoms and even our kids.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:29 am
John says:
LIBERALS RUN AMUCK IN NEW YORK!!!!
WHEN ARE THE PEOPLE OF NEW YORK GOING TO REALIZE THAT VOTING DEMOCRATICALLY LEADS TO LESS FREEDOM.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:31 am
peaches1 says:
Don't you think this is a bit heavy handed?
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:33 am
kcolddog says:
I can't believe that a City's inspection department could take this complaint seriously. To interpret the law and calling this sidewalk chalk display graffiti is ridiculous.

I hope her mother fights this. Thanks.

kcolddog
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:36 am
jimboss says:
chalk... hm....
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:45 am
Pepperman says:
“I do love that kid,” Shea said, “but I wish she would stop capping my tags.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:45 am
Sideways says:
Why is it that the political messages on the board have no basis in reality? A political spectrum works like this...at the far left you have total governmental control, such as North Korea. Also on the far left you have communism, and just to the right of that you have facism. Much further to the right of facism is democracy.

At the far right you will find anarchy. To the left of anarchy you will find libertarinism. Still further to the left you find constitutional republics. The US constitutional republic is close to the center, with most democrats being dead center, and most republicans being a little more to the right.

Let's run it down:
Communism->Facism--->Democracy->Const. Republics-->Libertarianism-->Anarchy

The moral of this story is...the more control that a society gives to the government in any area is a move to the left. The term "right-wing" was invented by the Soviet communists to describe Hitler. And to them, it was true. Hitler was right of their thinking. That being said, the neo-cons might be facist, but don't call them right-wing unless you are a communist. The true right-wing knows that the neo-con movement was started by socialist leaning dems. Some food for thought.

Disclaimer: I am a Libertarian, so I think pretty much all of you are whacked-out lefties.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:52 am
good ole southern boy says:
what kind of a bunch of clowns would threaten a child for drawing on a sidewalk with chalk. sounds like they either need to find them a real job or have one massive layoff. sounds like they have way to much time on their hands.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:56 am
good ole southern boy says:
what kind of a bunch of clowns would threaten a child for drawing on a sidewalk with chalk. sounds like they either need to find them a real job or have one massive layoff. sounds like they have way to much time on their hands.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:56 am
A New Yorker says:
Welcome to Bloomberg's town...

It's Bloomberg's NY now, if it moves they'll tax it, if they can't they'll fine it!
Oct. 17, 2007, 1 am
Richard4106 says:
Just One Note:

http://www.pencilstubs.org/default.asp?IID=86&NID=2495

This guy should be in prison by now, or is it just those with large sponsors that can break the law!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:02 am
frank says:
what idiot no life self hating neighbor would call authorities on a child using chalk on a side walk some people just hate the world so they feel they need to pick on children just for being a child whats next calling 311 on children for playing kickball
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:14 am
Phil says:
Wonderful News! If this is now what passes for crime, and is given attention by the autorities, residents can stop locking their doors, leave their keys in their cars and never again feel obliged to lock-up a bike. Crime well and truly has been eliminated from Brooklyn! Are there plans to disband the police force and close the jails? They clearly are no longer needed.
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:19 am
Tom Cox says:
What a bunch of senseless morons. Let the girl draw. Just ask yourself..."What would I have done as a kid?". Besides, its 'Chalk' people. It washes away.
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:21 am
Roxan says:
This is just plain silly.
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:24 am
******** says:
There are some folks that have no life, and would not be happy unless they are harrassing everyone else.
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:27 am
Lynn from Georgia says:
What is wrong with you people (Brooklynites)? If a kid writing on the sidewalk with chalk is at the forefront of your thoughts you have a problem! I guess that's why you would vote for a "Hillary".
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:27 am
dave says:
Black water is coming to your neighborhood soon they don't ask, they shoot!
unfortunately America has changed ,it is now a fascist place today.
We are left alone ,our neighbors are strangers,who spy on each other.
Freedom is dead in America,if your kids have a healthy outdoor activity they will be spied on and preyed on .This is not the America I remember.

Oct. 17, 2007, 1:36 am
Katie says:
It's nice to know this is what grouchy neighgers and cops are spending their time on. I'm sure there is nothing better they could all be doing. Hopefully this neighbor gets a job. Maybe donating time at a local charity is an option.
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:39 am
Bushman says:
Im sure, its people like the complainer who killed the USA, may this country rest in peace.
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:40 am
Right of Sideways says:
to Sidways...

You wacked out lefty! I'm an anarchist!
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:49 am
Keith says:
Another shining example of what happens when there are too many bureaucrats and policeman enforcing silly laws. There was another story today about a woman being arrested for cursing her toilet. It seems that she was having trouble getting it to flush and yelled in frustration. Unfortunately for her, a policeman heard it and used it as an excuse to arrest her and book her on disorderly conduct charges. (Google it) This must be the Fourth Reich
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:51 am
Keith says:
Another shining example of what happens when there are too many bureaucrats and policeman enforcing silly laws. There was another story today about a woman being arrested for cursing her toilet. It seems that she was having trouble getting it to flush and yelled in frustration. Unfortunately for her, a policeman heard it and used it as an excuse to arrest her and book her on disorderly conduct charges. (Google it) This must be the fourth Reich
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:52 am
randy says:
now that is what i call a police state and you voted them in now enjoy lot's of love randy
Oct. 17, 2007, 2:09 am
Crav says:
I hate NYC too. It was cool 40 years ago, but now it's like an aging corrupt whore on her last leg. The reason NYC was cool 40 years ago was because of the people. Those people have been replaced by pretenders to the throne. The buildings are there with the lights on, but no one is home.
Oct. 17, 2007, 2:13 am
John Hughes says:
This Tom Foolery can be avoided with a simple addition of "and is not permanent" in between the words "etched on" and "commercial building". That way hop scotch is still legal and spray painting "Nigel loves Patricia" on an underpass isn't.
Oct. 17, 2007, 2:23 am
Devin says:
This is ridiculous. A classic example of liberalism at its best/worst (whats the difference). Lets take this little girls chalk away because she is a horrible criminal defacing public property. Give me a break. This is just the kind of thing we can expect more and more of as liberalism takes a foothold in our country. It seems to me that a lot of lawmakers have forgotten why we are so blessed, what our founding fathers did to protect these most basic of liberties, a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Oh thats right, I can't say blessed because that would imply that God exists... but then again there is an awful lot of mention of His name in our Declaration of Independence and Constitution.
Oct. 17, 2007, 2:31 am
George says:
Its high time to crack down of these scoff laws regardless of their station of priveledge or colot.
Oct. 17, 2007, 2:32 am
George says:
Its high time to crack down of these scoff laws regardless of their station of priveledge or color.
Oct. 17, 2007, 2:32 am
Charles N says:
This country is becoming more stupid by the minute.
Oct. 17, 2007, 2:40 am
Ron McMillan says:
she should be treated as an adult felon, and get 20-25 years hard labor - then deported back to her country of origin. it's time that these sort of illegal activities, which are a drain on the public purse, be dealt with with the appropriate severity. A few taserings wouldn't do any harm either, just to encourage other people not to commit the same monstrous acts.
Oct. 17, 2007, 2:47 am
Mike says:
Her parents should be arrested for letting her walk out the house like that.
Oct. 17, 2007, 2:50 am
erly says:
Good thing the little girl wasn't black or the typical clowns would be crying RACISM!
Oct. 17, 2007, 2:57 am
poemi says:
this is sick, but it's just another example of the break-down of america. I mean, for crying out loud!!! she's SIX!!!
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:12 am
Tired Of It All says:
This can't be real. I mean, this is a spoof article, right? Like something I'd read in The Onion. Is this really what people have come to in this world? I can't decide whether to laugh or cry.
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:12 am
poemi says:
ron mcmillan is just saying that because he wants to appear extreme. he is also probably a jerk. oh, and i defend a six year old girl. after all, i used to be one, and i drew on things to!!
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:14 am
Victor says:
Great.

So now the State presumes that it can define the boundaries of what citizens can do with their personal, private property.

The fact that the City can threaten a $300 fine and other enforcement against a young girl who scrawled in chalk on her family's front stoop... yet turn a blind eye to rising numbers of illegal aliens (who in order to work sometimes commit identity theft) is reprehensible.

What a bunch of dumb, self-serving bureaucrats who ought to be tarred, feathered, and run out of town.
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:20 am
holly says:
I think it is a bigger crime that your paper would print the name and picture of a pretty young girl kneeling like that in the paper.
Shame on you
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:21 am
hill spurter says:
when hill get in we will b able to shot these little twrips 4 messing u nyc
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:22 am
mark says:
——ing fascists- they'll be kicking down your door next if you don't declare your rights, sheeple
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:30 am
Christelle says:
!!!

and we do not condemn some criminals and rapers because they are poor guys which are depressed !!
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:35 am
john says:
More democrats run amuck.
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:38 am
Jim Jones says:
Looks like more democrats run amuck again!
Next Al Goe will be saying that the sidewalk chalk picture is contributing to global warming.
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:40 am
unclebuck1@cfl.rr.com says:
what in the world does " capping my tags mean ? "

great line -" can somebody stop these bureaucrats before the Kafka again "
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:46 am
Berniece says:
This is ridiculous. Why don't they spend their time and money "taking care" of the Thugs instead of an innocent 6 year old for this unhurtful gesture? Wonder if Cathy Dawkins ever played HOPSCOTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:49 am
Red Barr says:
Cops will not go after gang members but they brave when it's time to arrest a six-year-old child.
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:49 am
Brian says:
Is there anybody sane left in USA
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:55 am
df says:
dfdf
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:56 am
Don Coppola says:
Just another proof that we now have "government, of, by and for the government." New York should put a warning notice on the Statue of Liberty; "Void, where prohibited by lawyers and bureaucrats."
Oct. 17, 2007, 5:16 am
Greg says:
The complaintant or the bureaucrat could have taken a small bucket of water and resolved the situation in 30 seconds and with no cost to the taxpayers or wasting of time of the public servants.

But it's not really about a chalk drawing, is it?
Oct. 17, 2007, 5:30 am
TL says:
Welcome to Hop Scotch on the side walk. Welcome to Liberal life. You vote for it you got it.


180 degrees out of phase.
Oct. 17, 2007, 5:32 am
whew! says:
Oh how unfortunate.
Instilling fear in the heart of a six year old.
Thats the law for you. No rhyme or reason. Just blind force. Making it up as they go along.
Where is the victim? Where is the damage?
We have a moral duty to violate unjust laws. I am glad this young lady is doing her part.
You go little girl!
B Quinlan
Gold Bar, Washington
Oct. 17, 2007, 5:33 am
bradley q says:
Oh how unfortunate.
Instilling fear in the heart of a six year old.
Thats the law for you. No rhyme or reason. Just blind force. Making it up as they go along.
Where is the victim? Where is the damage?
We have a moral duty to violate unjust laws. I am glad this young lady is doing her part.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!
You go little girl!
B Quinlan
Gold Bar, Washington
Oct. 17, 2007, 5:36 am
Santa says:
I have never in my life heard anything so stupid. People get a life!!!
Oct. 17, 2007, 5:37 am
Skip Tumalu IV says:
"Is it not possible that an individual may be right and a government wrong? Are laws to be enforced simply because they were made? or declared by any number of men to be good, if they are not good? Is there any necessity for a man’s being a tool to perform a deed of which his better nature disapproves?" - Thoreau
Oct. 17, 2007, 6:01 am
Dick Crow says:
The department that is preying on innocent children's sidewalk chalk drawing has too many staff and too much time on their hands and no judgement. Chalk drawings are an American tradition. They are not permanent and they are not graffiti. Why don't they also make smiling against the law?
Oct. 17, 2007, 6:52 am
Paul Sagi says:
it's not even on a BUILDING! it's on a SIDEWALK! it's only chalk and washes away! be reasonable!
Oct. 17, 2007, 6:57 am
MIke says:
Yet another example of incompetence that started with some do-good councilman passing poorly written rules to make money for the city. Not to be out done, the Department of Sanitation acts on a tip from some weasel who called to complain without checking to see if it was some crack pot loser. At least some of the foot patrol cops have a small glimmer of thought in their heads and realize that the chalk isn't doing any harm, but then the NYPD spokesman had to ruin that by showing his/her stupidity. Very nice.
Oct. 17, 2007, 6:59 am
John Breland says:
Proves that the American form of government is evolving - from democracy to bureaucracy to idiocracy.
Oct. 17, 2007, 6:59 am
Gregorio says:
Have they already forgotten about the buildings that toppled? This country is so out of whack I can hardly stand it.
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:07 am
Joe says:
Is there some consent procedure required by the city?

Can't not removing it be implied consent?

If it is not graffiti if the owner consented to it, then how can the owner be fined for not removing it.

The law goes on to say that the scribbles can only be called “graffiti” if they are “not consented to by the owner of the commercial building or residential building.”

“It’s a standard warning letter,” added Dawkins. “The property owner has 45 days to remove it or ask the city to remove it. We’ll inspect after that, and if the graffiti is still there, the property owner has another 60 days before we’ll write a summons.”
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:20 am
Out of towner says:
THE WORLD HAS GONE NUTS!!!!!!!!!!
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:38 am
Out of towner says:
THE WORLD HAS GONE NUTS!!!!!!!
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:38 am
Trent says:
Sometimes I wish we would just make New York City and California there own country. Most people there have no idea about the real world and what is important.
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:39 am
Mike says:
She's a witch! BURN HER!
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:42 am
Buck says:
I see that Barny Fife has done left Andy and gone to NYC. Ya'll come see us now.
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:48 am
Buck says:
I see that Barny Fife has done left Andy Griffin and gone to NYC. Ya'll come see us now.
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:49 am
Ed says:
Strange how this article implies we should be be upset over an expection that people control their rugrats. To change the appearance of property that does not belong to you is wrong, and appropriately considered a crime.
The attitude demonstrated by her parents in this instance indicates that we have here a little narcissist in the making.
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:52 am
Craig Luckasen says:
Can't the NYPD spend their time looking for real crimminals--like that right wing hate monger who mugged that poor, unfortunate Air America girl Randi Rhodes?
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:56 am
Richard says:
How disgusting... Juvenile names usually don't appear in the paper unless it is desired by a parent. You newspaper people and the people you promote (tart stars) are pathetic and more transparent than windex on glass on a windy day.
Here is a case of some family deciding the 6 year old needed an early start with the media. Next week it will be the same child in a detention center and the next year in jail. Give us a break you creeps!
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:58 am
Jenny Bea says:
That six year old is a criminal and should be locked up! And to think we've over looked this type of crime in the past. Why children for ages, in order to refrain from being idle have done such things like this in the past. We cannot let this be overlooked, and the mother should know better than to allow her child to do such things without knowing the consequences. Can you imagine the gateway to other behavior this would create if allowed to continue???.........................On a serious note- this is BS. Why are we wasting tax payer dollars on such drivel? Would they rather this child be throwing tantrums in grocery stores? And just think- the mentality of the person who called the cops would also advocate birth control before puberty (like in Maine) or some other idiotic notion. This is absurd. I would love to know where they live and mail that girl a bucket of chalk so big that she couldn't carry it around by herself. Every color they make, too.
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:58 am
Bill says:
You got to love liberals!!!!!!!!!!! Very loving people wouldn't yoou say?
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:59 am
dano says:
next thing you know they will be rounding up all teh coloring books.


ww.AnotherOneBitesTheDust.com
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:04 am
Donald says:
Whomever made that phone call needs counseling.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:05 am
AFS says:
You got to be kidding me. What in the world is this country comming to. Some POS can disrespect the church in S.F. and a kid can't draw on the sidewalk in Brooklyn.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:11 am
drew says:
What a bunch of morons. How about concentrating on criminlas and leave little kids playing hopscotch alone. Idiots.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:12 am
Dwain says:
To quote Murray Hamilton in JAWS: "I want those paint-happy b*&% caught and hung up by their Buster Browns!"
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:16 am
Tagger says:
OMG! Look at that blue menace she created! A warning letter wasn't enough. The SWAT team should have been dispatched immediately!
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:17 am
D says:
To quote Murray Hamilton in JAWS: "I want those paint-happy b@&%$s caught and hung up by their Buster Browns"
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:17 am
Gary says:
Worse than communism!
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:21 am
chris says:
This is insane! Go after real vandals who use paint. Leave little girls with CHALK alone, you perverted freaks!
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:24 am
Bob from NH says:
Local law 111 does not apply since a front stoop is not a commercial building or residential building...its a sidewalk. Obviously, someone in the government has tooo much time on their hands to harass a six year old girl. Live free or die!
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:28 am
mike says:
this is the reason our kids go nut,s in school ,because the can,t be kid,s anymore
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:30 am
NYItalian says:
The witch who called it in should be shunned by her neighbors. Yelled at when she walks by. You know NYC is becoming one giant bore of a city. No smoking, no transfats, now no chalking. Man liberal yuppies ruin everyplace they move, I wish we could move them all to an island so they can live their smokeless, transfat free, high tax lives away from the rest of us REAL folks.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:31 am
Vic from OH says:
what a load
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:34 am
profnasty says:
If the chalk contains traces of lead or any other heavy metal it should be considered terrorist weaponry. A sidewalk is a public place and the general public cannot be exposed to dangerous chemical agents. Chalk is a type of dust and is easily rendered airborn. The government and George Bush are obligated to protect all Americans from potential terrorist threats, even and especially those of children.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:35 am
john says:
New York Authorities are morons.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:37 am
Albuquerque grannie says:
Seems to this grannie, that the NY Police officers have more important things to do with their time than round up children with a creative bent! Just in case the "intelligentsia" is mis-informed, what this child is doing is "learning"... Please allow me to suggest that a COMPLETE background check be done on the neighbor who complained. THAT may prove to be informative and interesting.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:39 am
jc says:
WHAT IS A KID SUPPOSE TO DO? I GUESS NO ONE WAS A "KID" OR REMEMBER WHAT THEY USE TO DO WHEN THEY WERE THIS LITTLE GIRL'S AGE. WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO?
WE HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND THE PRIMARY LANGUAGE IS SUPPOSE TO BE ENGLISH. WE CAN'T PRAY ANYMORE OR USE THE WORD "GOD". WE CAN'T DO THIS , WE CAN'T DO THAT, WE CAN'T SAY THIS, WE CAN'T SAY THAT. WAS THIS LITTLE GIRL HURTING OR OFFENDING ANYONE. IT IS LIKE WE ARE BACK IN THE DAY OF BEING DICTATED TO WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO OR SAY. IS THIS NOT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE HOME OF THE BRAVE AND LAND OF THE FREE? GET A LIFE!!!!
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:42 am
eugene says:
Natalie Shea’s act of blatant self-expression was undoubtedly also picked up by Bu——e surveillance cameras orbiting in space, routed to the Department of Homeland Security, and turned into an on-going law-enforcement under-cover operation. She will not be permitted to fly commercial airlines. Her homework
assignments will be monitored by the government. Any Girl-Scout badges will be confiscated.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:44 am
Dan Stephens says:
Could we waist more of the taxpayer’s money??? Obviously this neighbor needs more 6-year-old kids drawing on the sidewalks. It is pretty sad when you send the local authorities after a little girl who uses chalk to draw on the sidewalk. I am sure she is making the area look a little brighter anyways. I say, give her the key to the city and let her draw flowers and butterflies where ever she wants.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:51 am
Thinker says:
Another beuracrat that needs to be unemployed!
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:52 am
DrTom says:
typical!
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:58 am
B Gaylor says:
Since when is a sidewalk a commercail or
residential building?
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:58 am
RUSTUPID says:
911; Terrorists; and now 6-YEAR OLD, CHALK-TOTE'n, Graffiti Terrorists?
I think the Department of Sanitation could do more good if they were to use catcher mitts and chase flying pigeons.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:59 am
dammit says:
Phuck New York it's a cesspool!!!!!!!
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:02 am
Lou S. says:
Another example of liberal "protecting the rights" of others. They just can't help themselves but to regulate everybody for everything. They will protect us into a police state if they are not stopped! What ever happened to the kind and gentle 50's. Sheesh.
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:02 am
Charlie Scott says:
Who is the pinhead who called for this "law" in the first place? I grew up at 108 E91st. Street and I can't remember when I didn't see chalk marks, even for utility and postal workers. The next you know we will be forbidden to break wind after eating beans and we will have foot-patrols of fart police.
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:02 am
Dr. Jim Ashlock says:
If you have traveled in Europe as I have and seen the "graffiti" on every square inch of buildings, walls, inside and outside or trains, trucks, highway signs, statues, and any other space, you can understand why the city council took the action they did. Europe is a disgrace, its almost impossible to take a picture of anything with out some type of "Graffiti" smeared all over it! The same thing is starting to happen in many of our cities here in America
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:12 am
John Anderson says:
I began chalk drawing on the sidewalk of West 24th street in the early fourties. Everyone played hopscotch in those days.

We need to have an illegal alien take up the practice. Then we can count on the the ACLU to come to the defense of the practice,defend the civil rights of the perpetrator, and declare it an infringement of cultural custom.
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:12 am
Mary says:
Just my 2 cents, perhaps if that nosey neighbor would have had something else to do besides pick on 6 year olds we wouldn't hear of this.
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:13 am
Ron R. says:
This is typical Bloomberg facism. It's a good thing she did'nt draw a noose or a cigarette because the "thought police" would be down on her like junkies getting free needles.
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:14 am
Mr Obvious says:
Just another example of badly written laws, and unthinking bureaucrats combining to criminalize good behavior while ignoring the real problems.
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:15 am
Sparky jr says:
Is this a reprint from The Onion?
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:16 am
Andy says:
Is Cathy Dawkins really this stupid?
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:20 am
Greg Webber says:
Of all the crime and all the crazyness that goes on in a big city for this child to get a warning letter threatening her with legal action and her ignorant neighbor reporting it.This really truly is complete lunacy and a shame.
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:24 am
Karla says:
Are these people just stupid, or what? Starting with the person who called 311 to complain, the Sanitation Department for sending the warning letter and the lawmakers for not excluding children's chalk drawings (hopscotch, etc) from the gaffiti law. God help our children. No wonder they are growing up as confused and troubled as they are.
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:32 am
reader in pa says:
I guess this means that the sidewalk chalk scene from Mary Poppins is now illegal, because it is encouraging the delinquency of minors.

For an explanation of the neighbor's behavior, read a copy of The Sociopath Next Door (i.e. mental boundary issues).

Am going out to buy my kids some chalk.
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:38 am
jim says:
Just another example of the liberal facism that is robbing our country of even the moist basic pleasures and rights. From the Politically Correct movement to this... liberals have done everything they can do to destroy what's good about the USA
Oct. 17, 2007, 10:15 am
Mike says:
I have an excellent solution for those pesky neighbors that call the cops on every little thing that goes down..

They are called molitov cocktails.

After the pesky neighbor receives one of these fine little gems I'm sure that all complaints will stop. permanently. and forever... hehehe..

Oct. 17, 2007, 10:28 am
distressedcitizen says:
what a world were coming to...
Oct. 17, 2007, 10:38 am
LoneWolf says:
You keep electing liberals, socialist, democrats, what ever you want to call them and this is what you get. Quit complaining!
Oct. 17, 2007, 10:40 am
stewart says:
I'm glad the "first responders" are keeping us safe from six year old artists. :)
Oct. 17, 2007, 11:06 am
outspoken2 says:
This little girl is guilty of being a child, and a sidewalk is not a building. Considering the local governments including NYC, you have that IDIOT Bloomberg as a leader and the mentality of the mindless twits who follow. So whats new in the zoo? Hey Bloonberg ya putz, why don't you go after the sidewalk chalk distributers, manfacturers?
Oct. 17, 2007, 11:08 am
xander says:
you people are hysterical.

its not like the SWAT team was scrambled with EMT and a fire engine to go waterboard this little girl about her gang ties.

it was just a letter sent to the property owner notifying them of the possibility that they might, just might, be subject to fine.

its nothing, really. nothing happened here except a wasted printout and a stamp.
Oct. 17, 2007, 11:30 am
Allison says:
What a story! What has happened to our country? I have an answer. Read our "Declaration of Independence" again. What was true back in the 1700's is now true again.

For example, take a look at this one complaint against King George: "He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance." Isn't that what is happening today? We have swarms of bureaucrats telling us what we can and cannot do and eating out our substance?

And while you are reading --- please read our U.S. Constitution and see what freedoms we have that our Founding Fathers paid for with their lives and fortunes.

We need to return to the government that our Founding Fathers gave us FREEDOM (SELF DETERMINISM) not COLLECTIVISM (SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM):

COLLECTIVISM:
Cooperation under Collectivism is essentially involuntary, coerced and imposed by people in government. Individual rights and liberty are surrendered in order for the government to secure the "puiblic good" and are returned in part as licensed and registered privileges.

SELF DETERMINISM:
Cooperation under Self-Determinism is essentially voluntary, spontaneous and without interference by people in government. Individual rights and liberty are valued and protected by both government and Citizens as the source of the public good..
Oct. 17, 2007, 11:58 am
frostyredbird says:
Since the liberals have tied the hands of the authorities regarding thieves, rapists, murderers, etc., I guess there's just nothing else for the 'authorities' to do when a pathetic nosy neighbor gripes about a child drawing on the sidewalk with washable chalk. Our nation is truly heading down the toilet.
Oct. 17, 2007, 12:25 pm
1776resister says:
I saw a tank truck spilling a colourful mixture of toxic waste from the spigot in back. It left a rather colourful splotchy streek of 'graffiti' for miles on public highways and byways. I guess he could have been 'in-for-it' by the 'graffiti-cops' if they could see the truck leaking and could stop the truck and make the driver clean it up, ha ha ha....
yeah, right. Chalk away, kido, let them send you notices up the wazoo, paper your birdcage with them.
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:05 pm
satan says:
lol, what bs
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:18 pm
satan says:
lol, what bs.
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:19 pm
satan says:
lol, what BS.
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:19 pm
Hello says:
lol, what BS.
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:19 pm
Hello says:
lol, what a crock.
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:19 pm
Justin says:
Their neighbor is a jerk. It's chalk and the property belongs to her mother. Also, I highly doubt the 6 year old child had any intention of damaging the property. Kids need to enjoy their childhood and express their artistic nature. If it bothered the neighbor so much, perhaps he/she could have washed the sidewalk off with a waterhose when she was done with her artwork.
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:20 pm
mixah says:
look how cute she is....WTF
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:25 pm
Doyal Patterson says:
What is this country coming to? when a 6 year old can't draw a picture with chalk on the sidewalk, this is totally ridiculous
Oct. 17, 2007, 1:38 pm
Maria Alves says:
Oh my God,

I just can't believe it! No wonder why the greatest nation in the world has become the sickiest, the coldest, and most intolerable place to live in the world.

I am so sorry for you Americans, people I learned to love and to admire.

I am so sorry you have such abusive laws, laws that blind you to the sweetest things, the simplest things, the innocent things. Again, I am so sorry for you.
Oct. 17, 2007, 2:20 pm
Maria Alves says:
Oh my God,
I just can't believe it! No wonder why the greatest nation in the world has become the sickiest, the coldest, and most intolerable place to live in the world.
I am so sorry for you Americans, people I learned to love and to admire.
I am so sorry you have such abusive laws, laws that blind you to the sweetest things, the simplest things, the innocent things. Again, I am so sorry for you.
Oct. 17, 2007, 2:20 pm
Toolittle Toolate says:
I wish you had included the email address for the city office at fault. Mockery may be the most effective tool in the arsenal here.
Oct. 17, 2007, 2:20 pm
Anne says:
I've never heard of such of thing in my lifetime. I grew up in the 40's and we always wrote with chalk on the sidewalks. My daughter did it in the 70's and my grandsons do it now. That person should get a job and stop calling 311 for something so petty that she probably did during her childhood. Sanitation dept., I'm surprised at you people for writing a letter to her parents about such a stupid thing that you people yourselves probably did as a child also. Where is it written that you can not write with chalk on your own property?
Oct. 17, 2007, 3:12 pm
carl says:
oh my, Chalk, what is this city going to do next.Make kids under 12 get a permit to ride bike lol. sick sick do they have not any thing better to do. take a brake and go to timmies for a coffee lol.
Oct. 17, 2007, 4:02 pm
Marilyn says:
A dear little girl draws pictures on the sidewalk! How delightful! She's welcome to draw to her heart's content on my driveway and sidewalk as my kids did and my granddaughtes do! Every community should be blessed to have dozens of chalk artists drawing all over sidewalks and driveways! Lighten up New York and join the real world!!
Oct. 17, 2007, 5:28 pm
Jack says:
Park Slope has some real idiots working for them. If I were the parents, I'd sue the city for harrassment, false charges and libel.
Oct. 17, 2007, 6:14 pm
uncle brownie says:
Sounds like we are living in the u.k with all the stupid laws that they have. All I can say is the people that are on your city council are as daft as can be, they must of had a really bad childhood to think of stupid a$$ laws or ordinaces as side walk chalk being a offence. I find your elected people to be offencive and pretty stupid as well
Oct. 17, 2007, 6:26 pm
F Loughlin says:
The people who do this to kids are neither use or orniment. Vote them out.
Frank. NZ
Oct. 17, 2007, 6:48 pm
eleanor says:
Is it not time for the entire community to rise up and demand the removal from office of maniacs who "enforce" these bulying tactics and call them laws? How about a two year term in the prison for that mentally ill policeman? where is the backbone of decent people? If you lie down and lett his happen, it means you have lost your minds, too.
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:07 pm
Hammond Hank says:
Wow. Seems like y'all have a bunch of goose-stepping Nazi/fascist/Gestapo thugs running you're town. Land of the free, home of the brave- my *ss! Someone should find the bureaucrats responsible for this outrage and give them the choice of being summarily fired or having a cap bust in their sorry *sses.
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:32 pm
Colt says:
“It’s a standard warning letter,” added Dawkins. “The property owner has 45 days to remove it or ask the city to remove it. We’ll inspect after that, and if the graffiti is still there, the property owner has another 60 days before we’ll write a summons.”

I would call the city and make them remove it. Its chalk. how could that be considered graffiti?
Oct. 17, 2007, 7:54 pm
Tony says:
Any one who seriously goes along with this really is not an American.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:06 pm
bobby brown says:
i think the neighbor and the Department of Sanitation should mind there own business and not worry about what kids at age 6 are doing.maybe the neighbor is a stalker and just wants to call the sanitation people to cause problems for others.i think the neighbor should not worry about her and other kids and mind his/her business.
Oct. 17, 2007, 8:32 pm
Bill B. says:
The sanitation dept. should look for those who do the spray paint graffitti, not chalk!
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:11 pm
Don says:
I raised two daughters in Tonawanda ny. and then north tonawanda ny. I seen a lot of hop scotch done. with chalk.. and other drawings, all legal, back in the 60's within the city limits.This thing of arresting children for childhood things are getting out of hand,, let them be small children, for the little time they have..I kind of wonder about this complainer, Does he or (they not have children)??? PS.. I kinda enjoyed it to...Also to her parent's. She is a very lovely young lady.
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:15 pm
Jonathan Beshears says:
Everybody wants something to complain about! However, it said the law stated that it was only illegal if the homeowner did not consent so obviously it was not illegal. If I were the mother or father, I would buy more chalk and tell her to go to town on my property.
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:24 pm
Paul Wade says:
The times they are a changing. This is simply more government control. We are just around the corner from socialism in our government and not too far down the road from communism.
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:30 pm
Don says:
To Daisy said, Dad said, next it will be unlawful to let your daughters out to play in a dress.If the picture offends him, he should not have a sexual view of the picture.. it is just a little girl having fun.. as i said, her parent's need to be proud of her..I hope they take this all the way to the supreme court..someone need's to speak up for the children of the world...
Oct. 17, 2007, 9:43 pm
Michael says:
This is outrageous!
Oct. 17, 2007, 10:14 pm
Travis Bradley (Colorado) says:
Udder nonsense!
Oct. 17, 2007, 11:40 pm
Zoge says:

From Southern California

Is this little girl the only
child in Brooklyn?

Oct. 18, 2007, 2:08 am
Andrew says:
people in this country seem to worry too much about the letter of the law and not the spirit of the law. Anyone with common sense can see that the girl is doing no wrong. Further more if its on her parents property its none of the neighbors business. If I were the girls parents I would just through that notice in the trash and if the city tried to make a stink about it just tell them to shove it.
Oct. 18, 2007, 2:42 am
The Runs says:
City Governments need money too. Unless you want to just tell them NO. Use a TABOR law to cap taxes and protect tax payers from unreasonable tickets.

Then when they start whining about closing down schools, call everyone you know, make sure they blaim the excess spending on the city manager, demand resignations, etc.
Oct. 18, 2007, 5:40 am
Sarah says:
People really need to get a life. What's wrong with this world taday?
Oct. 18, 2007, 8:47 am
Tim Workman says:
My kids draw on the sidewalk all the time!
What I think there missing is this cleans up wiff water rain, hose, even a broom, It's kinda like drinkin and driving, except this is water.

Oct. 18, 2007, 8:48 am
Tim says:
My kids draw on the sidewalk all the time!
What I think there missing is this cleans up wiff water rain, hose, even a broom, It's kinda like drinkin and driving, except this is water.

Oct. 18, 2007, 8:50 am
doofus says:
Lock her up and toss away the key!!!
Oct. 18, 2007, 9:47 am
Drop the Ridiculous Charges says:
Absolutely ridiculous and abuse of power going on here. The one who called in is an idiot.
Oct. 18, 2007, 10:41 am
Ghostfrog says:
Obviously, the worst sort criminal mind. I mean, what is the world coming to when a child just goes around drawing pictures on the sidewalk with chalk!? She should be flayed alive for daring to express herself. These could be secret markings to inform terrorists as to where the best cookies are kept and who is dating whom. As for the little snitch who called the authorities n the first place...no mercy.
Oct. 18, 2007, 11:56 am
Tyrone says:
Looks like Guiliani fascism is alive and well in New York.
Oct. 18, 2007, 1:32 pm
tony says:
That is just absurd. Truly ridiculous.
Oct. 18, 2007, 3:57 pm
Angelina says:
Some people are absolutely stupid, idiotic, and just down right ignorant for an artistic child at 6 years old displaying her "temporary" skill. Art on a front stoop of her home with chalk!!! For God Sakes, the 311 caller....Get a dam LIFE!!!!
Oct. 18, 2007, 9:52 pm
Dave_D says:
For Jackson that says that it's the right wingers not left wingers who think they know whats best for us all: Do you live in a cave? Is this the first thing you've read in 15 years? I can't believe anyone made such a comment.

"We;v also had neighbors fined for putting CB/HAM radio antennas, and DISH/DTV receivers because its considered a property modification that requires a zoning review."

Tell'em to stuff it where the sun doesn't shine. Federal law says that antennas for ANY broadcast service, including satelite services cannot be blocked by covenants or zoning ordinances. Federal law trumps state and local law. I've won this one several times.
Oct. 19, 2007, 12:39 pm
Michael says:
It's fascinating how "HIGH AND MIGHTY" lawmakers can deter children from their rights to be happy. This is utterly ridiculous! Should be considered on a case by case basis...and not in general. I see a 6 year old expressing her artistic talent with sidewalk chalk, not damaging private or public property...nor does it leave a lasting impression, except on those who find her art beautiful. Graffiti with spray paint or any other material that leaves a lasting impression and causes damage to public and private property is in fact illegal in all 50 states. But an innocent 6 year old with a piece of sidewalk chalk is not deliberately causing damage to anyone. The person who called this in needs a serious reality check.
Oct. 19, 2007, 2:30 pm
BS says:
Bll——!
Oct. 19, 2007, 6:48 pm
mustard says:
wow. just wow.
whoever called 311 should get a 2 by 4 up his butt. chalk is not damaging, does not make anybody mad, is not hateful, and obviously the girl had no intent to "damage" the sidewalk. sorta makes me wanna move to canada,
Oct. 19, 2007, 7:27 pm
Joy says:
You have got to be kidding me? People need to get a life if this is concidered graffiti.
Oct. 19, 2007, 10:35 pm
Topaz says:
The city's bureaucrats need to get their heads examined.
Oct. 20, 2007, 11:46 pm
Jenifer says:
This rediculous!!!
Oct. 21, 2007, 4:09 am
g says:
f
Oct. 21, 2007, 4:45 am
Sheryl says:
It's ridiculous!! let all kids enjoys the chalk on the sidewalk or driveway!! the chalks can come off by rain or hose water. I have my five childrens loves to chalk on the driveway so much! Stupid person who called 311 complaints!
Oct. 21, 2007, 9:09 am
Sheryl says:
It's ridiculous!! let all kids enjoys the chalk on the sidewalk or driveway!! the chalks can come off by rain or hose water. I have my five childrens loves to chalk on the driveway so much! That is not criminal!! Stupid person who called 311 complaints!
Oct. 21, 2007, 9:09 am
TheGuyWhoThinksThisIsGay says:
Gay!
Oct. 21, 2007, 8:09 pm
Dissapointed Vet... says:
What ever happened to the Land Of The Free, home of the brave? America we need to stand up and say enough is enough.
Oct. 22, 2007, 2:27 pm
Dissappointed Vet... says:
What ever happened to the Land Of The Free, home of the brave? America we need to stand up and say enough is enough.
Oct. 22, 2007, 2:27 pm
Niki says:
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! why don't we just send kids to work at the age of 5 and totally forget childhool....
Oct. 22, 2007, 4:34 pm
Niki says:
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! why don't we just send kids to work at the age of 5 and totally forget childhood....

ADULTS NEED TO FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.....

A GOOD RULE OF THUMB IS TO NEVER FIGHT WITH NEIGHBORS OVER THEIR KIDS AND THEIR PETS.... they will move away or die, but you will still be neighbors....

It really does TAKE A VILLAGE. That's why our country is suffering.... Nobody wants to work together any more.... GOD HELP US
Oct. 22, 2007, 4:36 pm
Kids are blessings says:
New York State Penal Law
Section 30.00 Infancy.
1. Except as provided in subdivision two of this section, a person less than sixteen years old is not criminally responsible for conduct.

2. A person thirteen, fourteen or fifteen years of age is criminally responsible for acts constituting murder in the second degree...........

***go play kid!!**

BTW*******

S 145.60 Making graffiti.
1. For purposes of this section, the term "graffiti" shall mean the
etching, painting, covering, drawing upon or otherwise placing of a mark
upon public or private property with intent to damage such property.
2. No person shall make graffiti of any type on any building, public or private, or any other property real or personal owned by any person, firm or corporation or any public agency or instrumentality, without the express permission of the owner or operator of said property.
Making graffiti is a class A misdemeanor.

***NOTE SUB 2***
Oct. 22, 2007, 7:14 pm
John L. says:
The real story is about the author's unfortunate last name
Oct. 22, 2007, 8:34 pm
Katie says:
I think this is ABSOLUTELY rediculous... people constantly talk about how kids arent the same anymore, they dont play outside, they just sit and watch tv or play video games... I wonder why!... if this is what could come from chalk, i wouldnt want to play outside either! the complaint behind this is obviously that of someone who has nothing better to do with their time... i think there are alot of other things that people should be dealing with before worrying about sidewalk chalk.
Oct. 23, 2007, 1:21 pm
Katie (canada) says:
I think this is ABSOLUTELY rediculous... people constantly talk about how kids arent the same anymore, they dont play outside, they just sit and watch tv or play video games... I wonder why!... if this is what could come from chalk, i wouldnt want to play outside either! the complaint behind this is obviously that of someone who has nothing better to do with their time... i think there are alot of other things that people should be dealing with before worrying about sidewalk chalk.
Oct. 23, 2007, 1:21 pm
Katie (Canada) says:
I think this is ABSOLUTELY rediculous... people constantly talk about how kids arent the same anymore, they dont play outside, they just sit and watch tv or play video games... I wonder why!... if this is what could come from chalk, i wouldnt want to play outside either! the complaint behind this is obviously that of someone who has nothing better to do with their time... i think there are alot of other things that people should be dealing with before worrying about sidewalk chalk.
Oct. 23, 2007, 1:22 pm
evan says:
Sounds like theres one thing to do here: Lets all grab some chalk and head to Park Slope. Somebody has to stand up for our 6-year olds. I don't want to live in a world where kids cannot draw.
Oct. 23, 2007, 2:58 pm
Jeremy says:
So New york wont arrest Giulianni for telling first responders that it was safe to breath the air at ground zero but, we harass and arrest people for artistic expression that does in no way any damage to anyone or anything. Wake up and smell the Tyranny! RON PAUL FOR PRES!!!
Oct. 23, 2007, 6:43 pm
jm says:
vbb
Oct. 24, 2007, 8:11 am
OmegaWolf747 says:
So, you can be sued by the RIAA if you play your radio too loud and now you can be arrested for doing chalk art. What a sad little, status quo supporting country we live in.
Oct. 24, 2007, 11:01 am
ali says:
salam
Oct. 25, 2007, 6:35 am
drew says:
what is wrong with people when u can write in chalk.
Oct. 25, 2007, 3:07 pm
Pleroma says:
"Summum jus, summa injuria"
Oct. 25, 2007, 5:05 pm
Milanius says:
This is beyond idiocy and only shows not only the absurdity of certain American laws, but also the coldness toward your fellow man. Disgusting.
Oct. 26, 2007, 11:01 am
G>Mitchell says:
What in God's name has happened to our world, or at leasy, thre Western half? This kind of petty mindedness is driving us all crazy over here in the U>K. as well. Can no, one stop these ptetty mimnded litttle Hitlers?
Oct. 26, 2007, 11:30 am
Rod says:
Talk about B.S. Chaulk will wash off after a rain.Graffiti that teens write, with spray cans DON'T. It's sad kids can't be kids without someone making a stink of it.
Oct. 26, 2007, 4:45 pm
Andromeda says:
Kids should be allowed to be kids. We played in the chalk when we were kids and it was just fine most times it was gone when mom or dad went out and cleaned the house off with the hose. Just no bid deal, leave the kids alone and tell the nieghbor to mind his own house not his nieghbors.
Oct. 28, 2007, 3:50 pm
McUK says:
no comment...
Nov. 3, 2007, 1:46 pm
Rosebud says:
I'm happy they didn't pepper-spay and/or tasser the poor kid.
Nov. 3, 2007, 5:41 pm
azif says:
kids are meant to spoil things, mess around, making everything dirty... but thats y they r kids & thats wat they suppose to b, there should be no restriction on kids untill something harmfull done from their side. i dont get it, y ppl have time to waste against lil children????
Nov. 3, 2007, 11:07 pm
marko says:
stupid
Nov. 4, 2007, 6:07 am
Rosebud says:
Here is Art made of Stick figures. Enjoy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T7v50jh25j0
Nov. 4, 2007, 9:05 am
olaf says:
this is the fruit of socialism and that of the socialist that we have aloud over us. stand up speak out STOP RAPING LADY LIBERTY!!!
Nov. 6, 2007, 4:44 pm
Marianne says:
Are people totally nuts?!? With all of the serious problems we face, the "authorities" are taking action on this? I've GOT to find another country!
Nov. 7, 2007, 8:35 pm
a.lazar says:

!!!!!?????WHAT!!!!!?????

PEOPLE WAKE UP!
DO SOMETHING
AGAINST
VIOLENCE,
COMMITTED BY POLITY!
EVERYBODY, START ACTION NOW FOR SAVING
A LITTLE REST OF HUMANITY AND FREEDOM!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov. 9, 2007, 3:32 pm
hatiga from milana says:
off you dont have story we wont story in this site
Nov. 19, 2007, 1:40 pm
TC says says:
Sir with all the problems our children face, just in school, gangs, and drugs you should be happy some child has found some fun without permenent public damage. Children has been drawing on sidewalks, with chalk for decades. Perhaps you should spend more time looking at those who dump garbage and auto parts in vacant lots and alleys, those are the real criminals not some child enjoying harmless fun. Then you wonder why younger children look at our legal system with anger. Seems you can kill someone and that's OK, but don't deface a sidewalk. Death is permanent chalk is not. WAKE UP
Nov. 30, 2007, 12:52 pm
PJ from non-U.S. says:
In the U.K., we have lots of problems with young people hanging around causing trouble instead of innocently playing.

Seems to me that the city council is telling people to play outside having harmless fun... by harassing them when they do.

I hope your whole nation isn't this crazy or I don't think it'll be receiving my air taxes and tourism money next year after all.

And by the way, I don't think you should publish what street a little kid lives on, ESPECIALLY when you also publish her photo and name - I'm sure child molestors could find it very useful
Dec. 9, 2007, 3:16 am
PJ from non-U.S. says:
I also agree with an old people comment above. They can (and often do) cause just as much trouble as some young people do, for example by making stupid complaints.
Dec. 9, 2007, 3:19 am
Podger says:
“not consented to by the owner of the commercial building or residential building.”

“The property owner has 45 days to remove it or ask the city to remove it. We’ll inspect after that, and if the graffiti is still there, the property owner has another 60 days before we’ll write a summons.”

Confusion... it is not graffiti if the property owner agrees, but the property owner is responsible for removing it even if she does agree?
Dec. 16, 2007, 8:34 pm
hi from hi says:
hi
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:18 pm
Kattlen says:
Why should a six year old girl get in trouble for something that washes off with a bucket of water!! the person who complained aperintly doesnt like the little girl. eaither that or she has a huge problem with art. if it couldnt come off well then theres a diffrent story but it does!!
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:19 pm
tom cruze says:
how rude
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:19 pm
jesus from 480039 says:
ih
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:20 pm
Austion Sullivan from Thorton,CO says:
This is BS you stupid jerks she was just doing what little kids do so leave her alone before her mom sues you.
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:21 pm
not very nice person says:
hahahahaha
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:21 pm
Lindzee Lou says:
Wow this is a pretty pathetic arguement! No child deserves a fine for a child play toy! I grew up drawing pictures on the sidewalk and i still do!
All you that agree with the fine are FLIPPING PATHETIC!
All of you that agree with this fine have NOTHING in youre life thats exciting, because obviously your picking on a six year old that wanted to draw a picture on the sidewalk with chalk that comes off with "WATER" Ever heard of it??? Well whatever that poore sweetie pie does not deserve this!!!!
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:21 pm
jesus from 480039 says:
what up
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:21 pm
Zainab from Denver says:
whats wrong wtih people??? she's a little 6 year old girl! people need to think about more important things.
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:22 pm
jesus from 480039 says:
hi people
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:23 pm
zach says:
hi
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:23 pm
yojopimp says:
well i think she ders it she is a vandel dam it
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:25 pm
l from jknkknkknknknkn says:
mlmmlmmllmlmlml
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:25 pm
Anna from C100 says:
Personally, the neighbor is more in the wrong than right. Although it is the neighbor's property, what is the most he can do on the sidewalk? Furthermore, she is 6 years old, you can't expect her to know it might be wrong to draw on the sidewalk.
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:26 pm
Bob says:
Thats stupid...
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:26 pm
gerald says:
wats up
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:29 pm
Ashlee says:
I can't beleive someone would take a drawing by a 6 year old girl so seriously!!!
Frist of all she had no racial, ethnic, or religious remarks in her DRAWING of a stick figured person. Second of all SHE IS 6 YEARS OLD, she probebly has no idea what graffiti is. Third, its her sidewalk! Her mother and father's property. Last time i cheaked you can do what ever you want with YOUR PROPERTY. What if there is a baby drawing on THEIR sidewalk? Are you going to give a baby a fine for graffiti? People really need to lighten up on children who are drawing on the sidewalk. they don't know any better. Especially if they are 6 years old! Now if they are drwawing on other peoples property and saying racist things then I understand but it is their property and shes 6!
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:29 pm
the guy with an opinion says:
I think it's up to her mom.wheither she should draw on her side walk and/or do something about it and he just being nosy and needs mind his bee's wax
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:29 pm
jesus from 480039 says:
hi people in now york I think you are messed up she is just 6 years old, man.
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:30 pm
raven818 says:
it's not offensive to the city for a blue blob!!! Shes only 6 she doesnt know about that graffiti can be racial or any thing like that.
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:31 pm
Alyson from ? says:
I think this is really really dumb!!! First of all Its a 6 year old girl with side walk chalk not a teenager with a spray paint can!!!!! Second she didnt have any ethnic, relious or racial marks in her DRAWING!!!! Next I thought you could do what ever you want on your property!!!! Finally If you saw a baby using side walk chalk would you fine them?? Will you fine the baby for Graffiti? How could any body take a drawing a six year old girl did on the side walk so SERIOUSLY? You people really need to lighten up on kids i mean seriously its chalk it washes off with water!! Especially because its a 6 yr old girl!!! I could see if it was someone elses property then you could call it vandalism and graffiti or what ever you want but not when she drew on her OWN property!!!
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:32 pm
Gary says:
I think that fining that little girl was mest up all it was, was some chalk that could of been washed off easy with a little bit of water. my next door neighbor is a cop and my little sister rights all over the side walk and street and he dosen't fine us or even cares. who ever did this is a reall but head. let her have her fun
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:32 pm
Hannah N. Baker from Thornton, Colorado says:
Why make a big deal? I think that a fine for drawing a little picture on the sidewalk with chalk is really not needed. I think this because you can wash chalk off with water and that will dry, but you can not wash off graffiti that is done in spray paint. Well you can get spray paint off but it is much harder then just a little water, that you can use to get chalk off the sidewalk. Also if you are going to be fined for writing on a sidewalk with chalk they why should you even have or sell chalk in New York City. I also think that if you fining kids for chalk that you will in trouble because then more kids might do this just to prove a point that a little chalk can hurt a soul, unlike spray paint that may be there forever.Also I think that this should not even be consider graffiti for god sakes she is a six year old who should be aloud to use chalk on a sidewalk. I believe that Natalie Shea is an innocent little girl who lives in New York City.
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:33 pm
Amanda from thornton,colorado says:
Why is this a big deal? I think that only things that can't be removed, like paint and marker, should be considered graffiti. Little kids' chalk will come off with water or rain. When you have people out there breaking serious laws, what are you going to do - look for little kids drawing on the sidewalk with chalk? I think all craft stores should stop selling chalk better yet I think little kids should be checked for I.D.'s to see if there old enough to by chalk. Well now that I see what your more worried about then i better watch out and get rid of my chalk. I think that little kids are going to very sad they cant even use CHALK.
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:35 pm
blondie says:
OMG!!! this is pretty pathetic if you guys are fining a little girl for drawing something for the fun of it!! i know for a fact that almost everyone on this page that has commented on this has drawn on the sidewalk or sreet with chalk!! now we start to complain what the heck that is so ridiculous!! its kinda sad that you think this will stop graffiti because it wont because this was just chalk that washes off and the real graffiti you cant get rid of so everyone that thinks this is good needs to get a life because she is only 6 years old get over yourself already!
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:39 pm
Tiffany *Sk8rGrl from Colorado says:
This isnt FAIR!!!!!! why would you call the police on a six year old girl!? she is just trying to be a kid like everyone else and wants to ahve fun! this is rediculous! Usaually people love seeing chalk drawn by little girls!!!
Dec. 18, 2007, 6:41 pm
Will I Am from IDK says:
wow that is kinda lame that a 6 year old girl is charged 600 dollar fine for drawing with chalk on her sidewalk.
So does that mean if i draw with chalk on my sidewalk i could get fine too?
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:50 am
anomynous from i forgot says:
those are some stupid reasons to fine. its just so government can get more money.
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:51 am
BobExpress says:
This is stupid. What is the problem with chalk. It comes right off. What is the person's problem that reported her. It is a little girl. OMG
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:52 am
xxxfrozenrosepetalsxxx from brighton says:
this is just stupid!!!!
Why would someone want to do that to a six year old girl! What if I did that to you?! How would you feel?!
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:52 am
Josh from denver says:
That is sooooo STUPID i cant believe some one would do that it a little drawing not a sloggin or any kind of graffitii it chalk. Jesus christ people get a life !!!!!!!!!!1 she is a little six year old girl not a vandulist or a gang member just a little girl havin some fun!!!!!!!
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:53 am
Dudaw says:
I do not think that was a correct solution. I just think Natalie should have cleaned up the mess she produced. If she would have left the mess, I would agree with what police did.
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:53 am
tiffany from 115 says:
i think it was stupid to charge a 6 year old girl 300 $ for just using sidewalk chalk to put color in her neighborhood. sidewalk chalk will erase at first sign of water.
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:53 am
redyns araic from drocnoc says:
This is crazy it's just chalk it will come of with a litle bit of water!
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:53 am
BobExpress from From Everywhere says:
I mean if you were the person that saw the girl writting with chalk on the ground, would you report her. It is a little extreme.
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:53 am
Dillon Dechant from A100 says:
I LIKE CEREAL AND I LIKE DRAWING WITH CHALK.. I SOMETIMES MAKE TOWNS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT... I ALSO LIKE FROSTED FLAKES... YUMMM.... SO... WATS UP.. DO U LIKE CEREAl
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:54 am
hillbilly bob from bucktooth says:
thats really dumb that they would do that to a little girl who drew on the side walk with CHALK i mean come on!!!!!!!!!! she is 6.
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:54 am
Lizard says:
That's just STUPID!!! How could a six-year old know waht graffiti is!?!?! Dudaw is a evil rebel of Darth Vader!! Don't listen to him!!! He will doom us all!!!
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:54 am
britney spears from 10101010101010 says:
This is SO low i mean charging a 6 year old girl for drawing on the sidewalk. I bet that every one that has comment has drawen on a side walk befor!!!!!! why dont u just arrest us all!!!!!!!!!
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:54 am
Cloud Strife from Midgar says:
She is 6 years old and your fining her for graffiti I bet she doesn't even know how to spell graffiti let alone do graffiti
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:55 am
Lindsey_LouLou from idk!! says:
hi every1 lol!! haha how r u people!? Well i think this is retarted cause the girl is only 6-years-old and all it is, is jus chalk. There is nothing bad bout writing on the sidewalk wit sidewalk chalk!! haha i kno peop ewho do that, Jocilynn lol hahahah. nd she aint gettin in trouble! well...lol jkjk haha so well bye-ya!! lol hahahahahahahahahahahah
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:55 am
billy_bob_joe from farmanimal says:
I think this is stupid!!!!!! i would understand if the girl was 13 and older but 6!!!!!!!!! some people are soooo bored w/ there life and have nothing to do!!!!! It wasn't even on the wall. and the chalk can come off anyway!! goshhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:55 am
Will I am from Where ever i wanna be says:
Lame!!
The govenment is just trying to find ways to steal our money!
How r we supposed to show our artistic side if these ppl r goin to ruin it 4 all of us!

Woot Go six year old girl keep drawing
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:56 am
~$P!D3RM@N~ from ~IN YOUR HOUSE~ says:
I THINK THAT SO...LIKE... RRRRREEEEEETTTTAAAAARRRDDDEEEDDD!!!!
SHE IS ONLY SIX YEARS OLD...SHE PROBLY DOESNT EVEN NO WHAT GRAFFITI IS!!!
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:56 am
Will I am from do watever i want says:
i like cearal too!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:57 am
~!JESSICA WAS HERE!~ from where i live duh... says:
I think that this whole thing is stupid, how could people punish a little girl for making a stupid worthless drawing on a sidewalk that would later be washed away by the rain,,,

...I THINK THAT WHEN SHE HEARD ABOUT ALL THIS WAS HER FIRST TIME HEARING THE WORD VANDALISM...

YOU PEOPLE ARE VERY STUPID AND I FEEL SO BAD FOR THAT GIRL THAT ALL I WANNA DO IS GO OUT THERE AND GIVE HER A WHOLE BUCKET OF CHALK

:)
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:57 am
X-kid from Thornton,C.O. says:
I can't believe it! I can't believe that a 6-year old girl's drawing could be graffiti!!!Since whene was drawing against the law,no offense or anything.If drawing was still against the law, what would life without art look like!It's wrong.I really don't like it.
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:58 am
Lilly from Fooger Valllly says:
Ithink that makin a 6 yearold pay a fine of 300 dollars is just outragious this is soooo stupid i mean me and my friends always play with chalk on our side walk

P.S. Brit Brit how would you feel if you weredoing somthing as inasind as drawing a pianting and you almost got arestid for it

P.S. THIS IS SO F#@KED UP
Dec. 19, 2007, 11:58 am
tiffany from 115 says:
i think it was stupid to charge a 6 year old girl 300 $ for just using sidewalk chalk to put color in her neighborhood. sidewalk chalk will erase at first sign of water.

any body picking on a six year old girl must be pretty dam pathetic
Dec. 19, 2007, 12:01 pm
Anon from New Zealand says:
What a rediculous shes six its not like she knows any better or about the rules of graffiti in the sytreet its chalk for heavens sake just wet it with a hose and voila its gone just get over it!!!!!!!!
Feb. 28, 2008, 6:56 pm
Leeah from Aotearoa yeyah wahht says:
Pathetic pathetic pathetic shes six she dont know no difference
Feb. 28, 2008, 7 pm
emilie from new zealand HARDZ says:
this is so stupid,she is 6 years old and getting a fine of 300 dollars for drawing a picture on her own front door step.i think these people are going too far with this personally i mean would you expect anyone to call the police because your daughter is just having a bit of fun with some chalk.after all a bucket of water will get it off so what is the problem.it is her own door step anyway,this is not something people ring the police about.
Feb. 28, 2008, 7:05 pm
josh from elmira says:
this is not right to do cause she is just a little girl and wanted to have fun to draw you should be the ones to be fine for being imature adults
March 31, 2008, 11:11 am
dustin updike from elkland says:
i think that it is really pathetic to be accusing a little girl of vandlism when she was just drawing to have fun and to have something to do. when i read the article i was quite mad at what they did. they should be the ones to be fined not her
March 31, 2008, 11:28 am
Colby from Colorado says:
Chalk? Now considered a weapon for vandalism? How ridiculous!! I remember in junior high during lunch break outside they let us mess around with chalk and we drew good luck signs and all for the basketball and volleyball teams. We drew stuff on school property and it wasn't our own land and it wasn't considered garffiti. Now a little girl is drawing stick figures and flowers on her sidewalk and people can't stand it. Her mother is the better person here by not turning people in for filthy trash everywhere or dogs defying her property. It would be a waste of her time and apparetnly she can live with it but some can't live with a little girl expressing her artistic side.
April 24, 2008, 10:21 am
Patrick from Baltimore, MD says:
Honestly this is a joke right? People sit tehre and spray bridges and rarely anything is done. A little six year old girl uses chalk on the ground and people complain? I seriously think people need a reality check.

This is far from graffiti. It is a child playing with chalk which washes away. Now, I can see if some one were to go witha can of spray paint and tart "tagging" the side walks and streets. I can see complaining about that... but come on.

Anyone who sits there and reads this and says the neighbor reporting the girl was right, woe be it if you kids ever do the same thing. Then it is a moral outrage. Your kid was just drawing with chalk!! Same thing with this child. Honestly. I read some people's posts on here. Some people need to get off their high pedestals. I wish we knew what you did in your past, probably something criminal of real measure.

And yes, the supreme court never declared "marking" anything with chalk graffiti. So technically this is not graffiti.

My heart goes out to the Shea family. I am going to have my son go "graffiti" my side walk with chalk later. I wish some one would report him.
June 6, 2008, 10:02 pm
chronicology from tha gheto says:
this isnt graffiti. This is a 6 year old drawing sidewalk chalk..

grow the —— up society.
July 14, 2008, 6:16 pm
Courtney from Shreve says:
This is bull.Kids should be able to draw freely with chalk/Stop selling it if your afrwid of that. This is an innocent little girl with atristic taste.let her draw.You people are stupid.Stupid people do these kinds of stupid things.
Oct. 1, 2008, 12:59 pm
Willard from Gainesville, Fla. says:
Yessirreeee! ! ! It's about time N.Y. cracked down on crime.
Oct. 13, 2008, 10:29 am
krashtastik from california, thank god... says:
oh, my GOD... i hope whoever did that chokes on their next bite of organic fair trade grown falafal. even helen keller would be able to tell the difference between graffiti and a child's drawings. probably some pissed off sancti-mommy angry that their child didn't get into some special program while miss natalie did.
Oct. 13, 2008, 10:53 pm
Dan from NJ says:
Posted by Good:
"I don't give a damn if you're six or sixty, the law still applies to you. The public sidewalk isn't your god damn easel. If you want to draw, by a pad of paper and go inside. I'm so frigging tired of idiots acting like something is okay just because it's done by a kid."

Ummmmm.... Nazi???

It's a fu*king kid, idiot. That's what they do.
Oct. 24, 2008, 12:28 pm
Paul R. Wilson from Bergenfield, N.J. says:
Just ANOTHER case of cops hassling people. Kids selling lemonade, people crossing railroad tracks at an "unofficial" crossing, people on vacation and paper lands on the sidewalk -so the cops get after them ! I grouse because my grandmother USED to live on Bergen Street in Brooklyn and played hopscotch there (it was called Potsy then) and marked the squares in chalk. My mother, who died last year, would tell me of how they played that .
Now the COPS harass people.
Oct. 24, 2008, 5:11 pm
Josh G from Hamilton Ohio says:
This is a true sign of ignerince.
She is six years old.
who the —— cares.
I remember when i was little
i ——ing use to write on the sidewalk
all the time.
not once did anyone say a thing.
And since when did chalk become graffiti???????
Nov. 27, 2008, 12:28 am
Desert Rat from West Brooklyn, AZ says:
First "... the City Council passed local law 111 in 2005, which defined “graffiti” as “any letter, word, name, number, symbol, slogan, message, drawing, picture, writing … that is drawn, painted, chiseled, scratched, or etched on a commercial building or residential building.”" -- and the picture shows her writing on the sidewalk, which ain't "a commercial building or residential building." Second, "...The law goes on to say that the scribbles can only be called “graffiti” if they are “not consented to by the owner of the commercial building or residential building.”" Anyone want to bet that her mother will give her permission?
Jan. 26, 2009, 10:35 am
ceanf from baltimore says:
there is no problem here. just ignore the letters and ignore the neighbors. because the next time it rains, the chalk will be gone, and considering it will take 2 - 3 months for the city to take any sort of action beyond a threatening letter, they have nothing to worry about. by the time the city inspector comes out, the chalk will most likely be long gone. unless of course, they have a 2 or 3 month drought.
Jan. 26, 2009, 6:11 pm
erinque tobar says:
that is not graffiti its coloring
Feb. 4, 2009, 11:54 am
Me from BK says:
Excuse me Graffiti artist are not ''petty crimanals'' they are artists.. And —— The Police
March 18, 2009, 9:03 pm
lesbain lover from apple valley says:
i love wet ——
May 22, 2009, 7:01 pm
anonymous from lolwatchan says:
cute loli
Oct. 9, 2009, 3:03 am
Mark Gallaher from Donegal, Ireland says:
I that feel that some of these local City Councils go
over board, a 6 year old girl been charged $300 fine drawing on a sidewalk with chalk, the city council needs to grow up because their the ones who are acting like kids plus the a neighbor who called city council in the first place. the bureaucrats who love making these rule are their just to make money any way they can with there rules. they are more important thinks in life like keeping drug dealers and child molesters of the streets and keeping them away from kids, KIDS will be KIDS.
June 9, 2010, 7:36 pm
Toasty from The Batcave says:
Because New York's biggest problem is chalk.
June 30, 2010, 4:05 pm
April from 87th Street & Broadway says:
NY icon, sidewalk artist Hani Shihada, was devastated when the management of the building he doing one of his original sidewalk chalk masterpieces in front of destroyed it. "I was doing drawing slaves working in the cotton field to show an important piece of our nation's history. I commuted 4 hours each day to the city, paid $60 in gas daily, and worked with the sun beating down on me for four weeks, to produce this chalk painting. I am heartbroken, said Shihada. Some people have no appreciation for art. Shihada thinks their were racial issues involved."
Aug. 10, 2010, 6:41 pm
Aleric Fernandez (12) from Town of Newburgh says:
Anyone know here number or facebook or something?
I'm twelve she's probably like 9 or 10 now. She is cute and/or hot as s***.

P.S Tehe sorry for posting it here xD
July 18, 2011, 9:09 pm
Aleric Fernandez (12) from Town of Newburgh says:
Also if you GER anything on here contact me at:

sonicrulz50505@gmail.com
July 18, 2011, 9:21 pm
Philip from Bay Ridge says:
If the girl is Italian she should be fined twice. Why? Because Italians, and blacks, do most of the graffiti. Why should innocent people suffer at the hands of those who are born Evil??
Sept. 12, 2011, 3:05 pm
Jessi from Midtown Atlanta says:
I have recently been shut down from doing sidewalk art on the city streets. The police said they didn't know if there were any laws "allowing" this kind of work. They catagorized it as signage and said that they have been filming me to create a case against us. Where do I find information regarding the laws on this type of street art.

You can find my work on my blog... http://missjessiqueen.blogspot.com/
Jan. 16, 2012, 2:23 pm
Butch from Brooklyn says:
It really sucks when kids can't be kids. But lets remember, is plain sucks for any kid who has to grow up in this —— hole city. That said, most of us know the reason kids can't be kids in the city is because there are many, many adult morons who must constantly chalk up the city streets. So next time city cracks down on a kid, remember it was the actions of a moron adult who never grew up or probably grew up in this —— hole city... The circle jerks of life...
March 1, 2012, 4:47 pm
Butch from Brooklyn says:
Hey jessi, get a real job and pay for billboard space. Nobody wants to see your monkey art (for lack of a better term).
March 1, 2012, 4:51 pm
Anna from Woodlawn says:
We have a neighbor who constantly calls 311 on kids when he sees them using sidewalk chalk. He once called the police on a couple of little girls who set up a lemonade stand (I know you are supposed to have a permit). He has never called the police on the drug dealers on Katonah Avenue though by his own admission to me.
June 12, 2012, 7:51 am
Sabrina says:
wait for it to rain. oooo big deal on CHALK. if people are offended by hearts and butterflies then it would be hell for them in my room. :D these people should be selected to perform their very own Hunger Games!
July 15, 2012, 4:30 pm
Merc from Bronx says:
Not all chalk washes away. In fact, some can be scrubbed with a broom using soapy water the recommended solution for removing it, and the chalk REMAINS, even when attempted several times. However, whatever substance is in this type of chalk that makes it so durable, does smear to make the sidewalk look a mess. So, whoever wants their children to chalk away on the sidewalk should buy a home and have them do it their own property, or pay a hefty fine when they allow their kids to do it on someone else's.
Aug. 26, 2015, 2:56 pm

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