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Five for fighting! Activists: Felder’s Ocean Parkway speed-limit hike will kill people

Slower is better: Transportation Alternatives executive director Paul Steely White is steadfast against state Sen. Simcha Felder’s legislation to raise the speed limit on Ocean Parkway to 30 miles-per-hour.
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They feel the need — the need to regulate speed.

State lawmakers must put the brakes on a bill to raise the speed limit on Ocean Parkway by 5 miles per hour or they’ll be signing a death warrant for motorists and pedestrians on the Kensington-to-Brighton Beach boulevard, say hundreds of residents in a new petition.

“It makes a big difference when drivers need to react to the unexpected, and it can mean the difference between life and death if a crash can’t be avoided,” said Paul Steely White of anti-car group Transportation Alternative, whose online petition against the speed hike has racked up more than 680 signatures in just a few days.

Mayor DeBlasio reduced the speed on all of the city’s roadways to 25 miles per hour in 2014, But now, state Sen. Simcha Felder (D–Midwood) is pushing legislation to boost the limit on the state-controlled thoroughfare up to 30 miles per hour. Assemblyman Steve Cymbrowitz (D–Sheepshead Bay) is sponsoring the bill in the lower chamber.

Felder says he’d actually be happy to add another 10 miles per hour — 5 is just a compromise — arguing that lowering the speed limit doesn’t actually do anything but generate extra cash through speed-cameras, and what the stretch really needs is more police on patrol.

“Lowering the speed limit does not equal safety — it does equal the ability to raise revenue for speeding past 25,” Felder said. “If cops give out tickets and if people know it could happen any time, that is what brings safety.”

It’s nearly impossible to travel under 30 miles-per-hour, say Felder’s supporters.

“I think that 30 miles per hour on Ocean Parkway is very, very reasonable,” said Assemblyman Dov Hikind (D–Midwood), who supports the hike. “I looked at my odometer and was going 25, and every single car just about passed me.”

But the activists argue the 5-mile difference has saved lives. Before the speed-limit drop, crashes on the strip killed three people and injured 137 pedestrians between Nov. 6, 2012 and Nov. 6, 2014, while in the two years following the change, collisions there killed one person and injured 102 pedestrians, according to Transportation Alternatives’ own data.

“It’s not about revenue,” said Steely White. “It’s about lives.”

The state recently banned drivers on Ocean Parkway from turning onto Avenues J, Avenue P, and Kings Highway — as well as making left-hand turns onto Avenues I and U — as part of what the state called a safety overhaul. But some locals, including Hikind, say they’ve actually made things less safe because people aren’t consistently observing the new rules.

On March 24, a driver jumped the curb and collided into a pillar outside an Avenue J home after he allegedly tried to speed up and cut off another motorist in the intersection. With that kind of recklessness going on, it would be irresponsible to allow people to go even faster, said one resident.

“It’s hard to argue for higher speed limits when we cannot show the city that driving has gotten better,” said Midwood man Simon Gifter.

City pols and officials are also against the change — Councilman Brad Lander (D–Kensington) called it “myopic, faux-populist overreach” in an impassioned Facebook post which likened the proposal to Albany over-ruling his plastic-bag fee. Meanwhile, DeBlasio vowed to fight it.

“I think it would make people less safe, and we’re going to fight against any measure that would make New Yorkers less safe,” he said at a press conference last week.

However, DeBlasio also tried to halt the recent changes on Ocean Parkway, and the state just ignored him.

Reach reporter Julianne Cuba at (718) 260–4577 or by e-mail at jcuba@cnglocal.com. Follow her on Twitter @julcuba.
Updated 10:17 pm, July 9, 2018
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Reasonable discourse

Jody from Brooklyn heights says:
On ocean parkway, it is the timing of the traffic lights that are the problem. Really you can rarely go 2 blocks before you are again stopped at a red. Keep the 25 and give more green light time. On O.P. the only reason you'd want to drive faster than 25 is to beat the next red ligbt.
March 31, 2017, 7:23 am
Mike from Williamsburg says:
Yes, activists are saying that. But physics confirms it.

Felder could have taken two arguments. The stupid one: he could deny the physics. The moral trade-off one: a few deaths and injuries are worth it. He opted for the stupid one. Is he stupid, or does he merely recognize that the evil one sounds evil?
March 31, 2017, 9:17 am
Lucy from Park Slope says:
Sorry, but all the data shows that when people drive faster and more aggressively, it's much safer. Slow driving kills.
March 31, 2017, 9:35 am
Tyler from pps says:
Simcha Felder and Dov Hikind ... When they say something is good for the community, there's a 90% chance the opposite is true. Probably more like 99% when they say it together.
March 31, 2017, 10:16 am
Joe from Sheepshead Bay says:
Prove it!

I drive it daily and average about 32 MPH to keep up with traffic. ...and if I have to decipher this, we are ALREADY driving at over 30 miles an hour since the Vision Zero fallacy began.
March 31, 2017, 10:28 am
Josh from Coney Island says:
Get rid of the speed cameras, red light cameras and raise the speed limit to 35 mph and Ocean Pkwy would be safer for everyone.

Paul Steely White is wacko who hates motorists. Transportation Alternatives is left wing group who plans to get rid of motor vehicles in NYC.
March 31, 2017, 10:43 am
Tyler from pps says:
Joe -- And at 32 mph, you've going about 7 mph the limit. This is still slower than when the speed limit was higher.

Even outside rush hours periods when there's no congestion, folks will tend to top out at 35-ish now... rather than 45 or 50 before. (I drive on Ocean Parkway fairly regularly)
March 31, 2017, 10:51 am
Barry from Flatbush says:
We need to lower the speed limits because having all those plastic bags blowing around makes driving more dangerous.
March 31, 2017, 11:22 am
Evelynn Pootier from Brooklyn Heights says:
Oh, but no speed limits for reckless bicycles who just go as fast as they want?!? Typical!
March 31, 2017, 11:45 am
Henry Ford from Bay Ridge says:
I don't about now, but you used to be able to catch all the green lights going about 33mph on Ocean Parkway if there was no traffic. I'm sure lowering the limit to 25 is an incredible source of revenue, so they will most likely lower it to 20, because there is even more money to steal then.
March 31, 2017, 12:07 pm
Joe Bloe from Bensonhurst says:
Actually driving at 25 mph on Ocean Pkwy. is more dangerous. Quite a few times while going at the speed limit, vehicles in the turning lanes just decide to make their turns right in front of the slower thru-traffic because they are going too slow. The result is many near misses because turning vehicles cannot really judge on-coming traffic. 30 mph is proper for the way ocean parkway is designed, hence the name PARKWAY !!
March 31, 2017, 12:28 pm
Barry from Flatbush says:
20% of children 0-14 hit by a car going 30mph die.
5% of children 0-14 hit by a car going 20mph die.
But the hell with dead kids, I gotta get to work.
March 31, 2017, 12:45 pm
nathan thompson from Ditmas Park says:
the bigger issue not being addressed here and which encompasses all of Felders issues is that of home rule. Whether it's to kill a bag fee or kill children on Ocean Parkway, senator Felder is using state machinery to literally take away NYC's right to govern itself. Be afraid.
March 31, 2017, 12:55 pm
Kristy from Ditmas Park says:
Every other 6 lane road in this city is 30mph. What pedestrian is going to cross 6 lanes and hope they make it? Make the limit consistent throughout the city.
March 31, 2017, 1:05 pm
Tyler from pps says:
That was a ridiculous comment, Joe Bloe.
March 31, 2017, 1:10 pm
Rufus Leaking from BH says:
Agenda 21. Start walking comrades. Vehicles are for the commisars.
March 31, 2017, 1:26 pm
Barry from Flatbush says:
No worries, Rufus. A tinfoil hat will keep the UN black helicopters from taking your Civic.
March 31, 2017, 2:06 pm
Frank from Furter says:
Kristy every other 6 lane road that is not a limited access highway is,25 mph in NY city. That includes eastern parkway. Parts of Atlantic ave kings highway and the notoriously deadly queens boulevard. The only exception I know is parts of 12th ave-west street that are 35. Ocean parkway has residential communities on both sides. You have to cross it to get to the other side. Btw there is an easy to slow the traffic down that the neighborhood would love....allow parking on the main roadway. I drive people'socean parkway a number of times as week. The speed cameras there is one near avenue c near a school as required by law. The cameras are set at 36 so people can easily do 32 without an issue. Changing it 30 allows them to go 40 as the cameras won't trip until 41
March 31, 2017, 2:13 pm
Dave from Brooklyn says:
These comment boards would be a great lead generation opportunity for a psychiatrist. It's fascinating how completely bonkers the BP audience is.
March 31, 2017, 2:44 pm
james from kensington says:
I was driving the West Side Highway in lower Manhattan the other day.
- 3 lanes in each direction
- HUGE pedestrian and cycle "traffic" due to the Waterfront Greenway and bike path.
- LOTS of residential buildings along the Eastern length
- Plenty of access from side streets along this stretch
- Speed limit? THIRTY-FIVE
Is NYC saying tht
- Manhattan lives don't matter?
- Manhattan drivers are safer?
- Brooklyn lives matter more?
- Brooklyn drivers are worse drivers?
March 31, 2017, 3:37 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Being against Vision Zero doesn't mean that I am against safety altogether. I just feel that the way it's being done, it's more of a selective punishment for motorists only, while cyclists and pedestrians feel that they will get nothing more than a slap on the wrist for what they are doing illegal. A number of times, I have seen pedestrians cross against the signal while cyclists treat numerous traffic lights and signs as if they are decorations. Getting to the Ocean Parkway, as I have said on the NY Times in which the link can be clicked on below, the lower speed limit will actually hurt those that actually follow the laws, plus the cameras are primarily for revenue purposes, not safety. I do agree that the green lights should be a little bit longer considering how long the blocks are for those, and I know this because I was there about a week ago. Also, the lower speed limit is making motorists take even longer to get around than they used to. Overall, if you really want safe streets, then get all groups to follow the laws, not just one in particular. On a side note, I did get some recommendations on the that NY Times article for what I had to say about it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/28/nyregion/vision-zero-ocean-parkway-traffic-safety.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fnyregion&action=click&contentCollection=nyregion&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=12&pgtype=sectionfront
March 31, 2017, 3:39 pm
Dave from Brooklyn says:
Wow, you even have people from Pleasanville showing up here to plug their comments from other websites.

How does Brooklyn Paper earn revenue with this BS?
March 31, 2017, 4:44 pm
Frank from Furter says:
West street actually has a large central divider missing on ocean parkway. West st has had way too many deaths including a biker at chambers street which resulted in adding different stop lights. I can almost never do 35 there anyway.
March 31, 2017, 5:18 pm
Ed from Midwood says:
I am so sad for drivers. Sniff sniff. Driving 25 is a terrible burden to bear.
March 31, 2017, 5:46 pm
Linda from Williamsburg says:
I'm sorry, but this is still far to quick. The limit should not be more than 5 - 8 mph. Before you people whine, cars can easily travel at that speed!
April 1, 2017, 1:56 am
duh from duhville says:
NYC has one of the most comprehensive mass transit systems in the world. None of these idiots need to drive in the first place.
April 1, 2017, 2:05 pm
Rufus Leaking from BH says:
Duh - Need does not enter into it. Now hop on a train and get to the airport with a suitcase!
April 1, 2017, 2:31 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
I hate to break this to those who are pretty much anti-car fanatics, but there are those who do need a motor vehicle of some sort to get around, especially those coming from the parts of the boroughs that actually are transit deserts. For those who do live in transit oriented areas but still drive, it could be either that they are getting to an area they couldn't easily get to by using transit or involves a time when the usage for it is less. I suggest some of you start looking at the causes rather than the effects to why some choose driving over transit, and it's not always by choice. As for wide roads such as the Ocean Parkway, maybe it wouldn't be a boulevard of death like Queens Boulevard is nicknamed if pedestrians didn't keep on crossing when they didn't have the walk signal to begin with. In a way, I feel that they have to play their role in safety as well, and the same goes for cyclists when they keep on treating traffic lights and signs as decorations just to blow through them. Having criticisms on Vision Zero such as lowered speed limits isn't being against safety, it's about understanding what it's real purpose is, which is why I feel this is like Animal Farms, so please read the book if you know what I mean by that and why I feel that everyone who doesn't drive feels as if they are those special animals from that novel. The truth is that when pedestrians and cyclists don't follow the rules, they are placing themselves into harm's way here, but they feel that because they are the ones getting hurt they feel that they are the victims even if what they did was intentional. On a side note, I can still remember when I said this at a Vision Zero hearing over in Brooklyn back in 2014, and I was applauded for saying something like this.
April 1, 2017, 3:51 pm
Frank from Furter says:
Tal the majority of pedestrians are killed in the crosswalk crossing with the light. Yes some are killed crossing in the middle of the block. You may think you know what you are talking but your ignorance is showing. Maybe in Westchester but in the city it's speeding and inattentive drivers doing the killing.
April 1, 2017, 4:43 pm
duh from duhville says:
Frank from Furter is 100% correct
Rufus from BH, take your Lexus to the airport and get back to Boca.
There are bus lines at the farthest reaches of every borough, if not subway lines. No pity for drivers of cars who are inconvenienced when they don't need to drive the cars in the first place.
April 1, 2017, 5:47 pm
Frank from Furter says:
I drove down west street today. There are relatively few straight a ways and a lot of lights. It was relatively uncrowded but I never went more than 38 and I was doing most of the passing. But my wife is also disabled and buses and subways just don't work for her.
April 1, 2017, 7:10 pm
Joe from Sheepshead Bay says:
Duh - I live and work in Brooklyn...taking mass transit is neither cost or time-effective for me. 35 minutes to drive or 70 using mass transit. My time with my family is more valuable than rubbing elbows with the masses.
April 1, 2017, 8:50 pm
Moishe from Flatbush says:
Felder is a jackass and an embarassment to all Jews, observant and otherwise.

Hey Simcha, how about we start to enforce all existing auto insurance and traffic regulations-- including double parking-- in Midwood?

You ever read the Talmud, schmuck?
April 2, 2017, 12:54 am
Michael from Bay Ridge says:
Mass transit in Brooklyn only goes in certain directions. There's no way to go from west to east without going to Atlantic Ave first (or Jay street).
April 2, 2017, 6:48 am
Frank from Furter says:
How did a discussion of a 25mph speed limit morph into no cars? No one is coming for your car out in Midwood...maybe downtown Brooklyn where there is good mass transit but not along ocean parkway. Paranoid. Times they are a changing.
April 2, 2017, 11:02 am
Frank from Furter says:
How did a discussion of a 25mph speed limit morph into no cars? No one is coming for your car out in Midwood...maybe downtown Brooklyn where there is good mass transit but not along ocean parkway. Paranoid. Times they are a changing.
April 2, 2017, 11:02 am
Frank from Furter says:
How did a discussion of a 25mph speed limit morph into no cars? No one is coming for your car out in Midwood...maybe downtown Brooklyn where there is good mass transit but not along ocean parkway. Paranoid. Times they are a changing.
April 2, 2017, 11:02 am
ty from pps says:
there should be tables and chairs in the street like times square/
April 2, 2017, 2:38 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Joe, that goes back to saying that there are parts of the outer boroughs where driving gets others around faster.

Moishe, as a fellow Jew, I will agree with you on reckless driving and stopping it, but that still doesn't excuse pedestrians and cyclists from flouting the laws themselves.

Frank, you should know by now that Transportation Alternatives and their affiliates have an anti-car bias, so they hate anything involving motor vehicles even if they are considered going green by being electric or hybrid, because it's still a motor vehicle to them.
April 2, 2017, 3:11 pm
Joe from Greenpoint says:
Transportation Alternatives will have nothing left to —— about when the middle class and blue collars have left the city.
April 2, 2017, 5:13 pm
Dave from Brooklyn says:
@ Joe from Greenpoint.

Can't wait for that day to come
April 2, 2017, 6:17 pm
Tim B. from Brooklyn says:
They're coming for your guns! They're coming for your cars!
April 3, 2017, 1:06 am
Tootie from Staten Island says:
How about they have no speed limit, but there's a toll based on how fast you drive. If you go at 25 mph, free, if you go 30, $5, 35, $100, 40, $105, 50, $1000, 65, $1005.
Then no one would drive at 65, and no children will die. I think we can all agree this is the only way to make everyone happy.
April 3, 2017, 5:22 am
Zalman Dvorkin from Crown Heights says:
Since someone evoked the Jew card - or more specifically, the Orthodox Jew card - I felt I have to comment (long time reader, first time commenter!).

This is not a Jewish issue, so stick it! Yes, Simcha Felder is an Orthodox Jew, but his views on this issue don't represent Jews or Judaism. He is a Conservative (ran as a Democrat, but caucused with the Republicans - poor judgement on his part!), and that's the view he represents. Not all Jews, Orthodox or otherwise, agree.

I, for one, prefer a lower speed limit with camera enforcement because I have a daughter who is expecting a child and will soon be walking the streets with a stroller having to trust strangers not to run them over. Besides, the cameras are only ticketing those going 10 over the speed limit, so it's not a concern for responsible people. Only a concern for inconsiderate, reckless personalities (we all know people like that...).

What does Judaism have to say about it? Well, there's nothing in Halacha about speed limits, but Judaism does say that protection of life is more important than (virtually) anything else in the Torah.

This is akin to the halachic debate that had been discussed decades ago about what the Torah says about smoking cigarettes. If we know it can cause cancer and other ailments, isn't it forbidden? The bottom line about the cigarette debate is that they have no productive purpose, so unless one is already addicted, it's pretty much prohibited for one to take up smoking.

Is there ANY productive purpose in driving 5 mph faster? I challenge Simcha Felder to prove that those short bursts of travel at 5 mph have any effect on travel time. If yes, how much time is saved? Let's talk numbers.
April 3, 2017, 2:27 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
First of all, religion has nothing to do with this, and I couldn't care less what religion Simcha Felder is, because this is irrelevant to the issue. Getting back to the issue, nobody will argue that those that exceed the speed limit can be dangerous, but that still isn't an excuse for jaywalking. In reality, lowering the speed limit makes travel times for motorists a lot more than they need to be. Let's not forget a person can still get hit even if the motorist hitting them isn't speeding, which is why that isn't considered out of negligence. The reason why I use Animal Farms is because there are many pedestrians and cyclists who believe that they are those special animals who believe that the rules don't apply to them while motorists must be subject to the rules all the time. I consider this to be a huge double standard. Until they start practicing what they preach, they have no moral legitimacy to what they say. Seriously, I don't see why there is an issue for those who just can't wait for the walk signal. Also, the street is too wide to make it across on just one walk signal for most anyway.
April 3, 2017, 3:17 pm
Dave from Brooklyn says:
The vast majority of pedestrian injuries/fatalities occur when they are in the cross-walk AND have the walk sign/right of way.

Dangerous jaywalking is actually very very rare and basically NON EXISTENT on a wide road such as Ocean Parkway.

But keep spewing your mis-informed insanity here
April 3, 2017, 4:09 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Dave, there have been numerous times where pedestrians have been hit due to jaywalking but I betcha anti-car fanatic websites such as Streetsblog and Transportation Alternatives never report these because their whole agenda is to say that cars are evil, plus their claims are probably skewed to their favor anyway.
April 3, 2017, 4:22 pm
Dave from Brooklyn says:
1 - Your paranoia about advocacy groups and obsession with weighing in on local issues for a city you don't live in are both mental issues that you should get checked out

2 - That said your claim of "numerous" is subjective and probably pulled out of your a-s but I'll ask anyway - where are you getting that from?

3 - Data reporting on crashes is provided by New York City.

Reality is vast majority occur while the pedestrian has ROW. Also once again to keep this specific to Ocean Parkway.

NO sane human (NONE) are jaywalking across a 6 lane road.
April 3, 2017, 6:04 pm
Frank from Furter says:
You can view all the accident stats at nyc.gov/nypd
And go to traffic stats where they have both ticketing stats and accident stats by the closest intersection. The nypd highway cops investigate all serious accidents. They if they have any bias it's not pro biker. The stats are not easy to get through but the reports are not streetblog sycophants. The reports clearly show that most pedestrian deaths and injuries occur in intersection where the ped has the right of way. There are a lot of insane people jay walking ocean parkway.
April 3, 2017, 6:18 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Unfortunately, stats only give the effects of what occurred. However, I am talking about the causes here. Whenever there is proof that a pedestrian or cyclist flouted the law before having themselves getting hit, I doubt that Streetsblog will ever mention this. Also, they have a good history of trying to distort claims when it doesn't work for them, not to mention of bunch of commenters vindicate the said cyclists and pedestrians that flout said laws. I know this because I read what they post. Another thing is that they have the tendency to cry foul whenever there is a call to crackdown on their kind for flouting the laws while playing victims to the rules. More importantly, if you really want safe streets, then your group has to play your role in following rules as well, and then you won't wind up getting hit. Overall, I will believe that Streetsblog doesn't have an anti-car bias the same way I believe that the Electronic Intifada doesn't have an anti-Israel bias, and look that up to know what I'm talking about.
April 3, 2017, 6:56 pm
Dave from Brooklyn says:
Stats give the reality of what has occurred.

Jaywalkers or cyclists who put themselves in danger are penalized with death or injury. Drivers get a small fine when they exceed 11mph over the speed limit.

Long way to go before this is balanced there.

p.s are you seriously stating the people of NYC compare to a group with a anti-Israel bias? If so you really are bats-it
April 3, 2017, 7:08 pm
Frank from Furter says:
Many investigations have video to back them up..that is how they tell or by uninterested observers. There was a pedestrian killed at Tillary and Brooklyn bridge boulevard no charges were filled because they had tApe showing he was crossing against the light.
April 3, 2017, 9:11 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Let me first set the record here. I don't oppose safe streets, and being against some of the ideas from Vision Zero doesn't mean that I hate it either. What I do believe is that everyone should play their role in safety, not just one group only, otherwise it will feel like Animal Farms where some will think that they are those special animals who claim to be exempt from all the rules while the rest must follow every letter of it. My point is that two wrongs don't make a right. This basically means that as much as you don't like how motorists flout the laws, and I don't like that either, it still doesn't given any reasons let alone excuses for pedestrians and cyclists to be flouting them either hence the double standard. In reality, it won't matter how low the speed limit gets reduced to because as long as you have jaywalkers and rogue cyclists, they will get hit no matter how fast or slow one is driving. As for places like Streetsblog and Transportation Alternatives, I have never heard them say anything that it is pro-motor vehicle, which is I why I say that they have an anti-car bias, but I will rescind on that if anyone can prove me otherwise on my claim or my statement will hold. BTW, I have never heard Paul Steely White talk about cyclists and pedestrians that flout the laws when addressing safety and that was from the Daily News that I linked here a few months ago, which shows where he really stands on the issue, and that he does turn a blind eye to them hence his anti-car bias. If you don't believe me, I suggest you read what he mentions, because I didn't find anything that he said that makes him not have such a bias.
April 4, 2017, 4:44 pm
Dave from Brooklyn says:
Tal,

Let me keep this simple.

Cyclist and pedestrians "flouting the law" isn't talked about often because

IT'S NOT REALLY THE PROBLEM!

Not sure why this is difficult for you to get.
April 4, 2017, 5:34 pm
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
Dave, if you go outside to more open message boards such as the ones on the NY Times, you will find that pedestrians and cyclists flouting the laws is an actual issue, and the same goes for public hearings to some I actually attended on such, so it seems as if you are the one who is finding it difficult to understand here, not me.
April 4, 2017, 6:09 pm
Dave from Brooklyn says:
So your sources are internet comment threads and community whine sessions which in your view give accurate data that can be trusted.

But data posted by the City of New York/NYPD/DOT is of no use to you.

Seems logical.
April 4, 2017, 8:46 pm
Mona from Weschester says:
Dave - you think it's not a problem?? Bicycles and pedestrians!!! Wake up!!!
My 2014 Honda is covered in scratches from bicycles speeding past. It should be a relatively shiny, new car - but it is not! These people todn't pay attention to where I'm driving and they go too fast. The worst was one who's pedal scratched up against my door when I was turning. I stopped to ask him for his insurance info, and he just yelled at me! It was so rude. Now I have a big scratch there that will never go away.
People can die fromthings like this. If you get hit by a really fast bike, it hurts. Trust me, it has happened to me and to my children. People like you with your Donald Trump attitudes are the real problem.
April 5, 2017, 6:47 am
Dave from Brooklyn says:
So Mona.

You hit someone with your car and it's their fault? It's too bad the cyclist didn't smash their bike lock through your windshield.

Also why in the hell do Westchester trolls keep popping up on this thread? People of Westchester YOUR OPINIONS AREN'T RELEVANT to local Brooklyn issues.
April 5, 2017, 8:36 am
Tal Barzilai from Pleasantville, NY says:
First of all, I don't know who is the Mona person, and I doubt that she knows me. Dave, I take it that you didn't read her comment correctly. She was talking about cyclists who don't follow rules and hit her car. Also, she was talking about those who get hit by cyclists when walking. I can still remember the times that I nearly got hit by a cyclist, but took some steps back to avoid that, and I had the walk signal. This shows how once again two wrongs don't make a right. On a side note, hearing that last sentence really does show the true nature of bike zealots and other anti-fanatics especially when they don't like to be called out or take criticism despite being known how to dish it.
April 5, 2017, 4:02 pm
Rock Quarry from Backwoods says:
Considering most traffic flies at an unobstructed 50, this Simcha looking to score points with the OP residential corridor vote. The speed limit throughout all city streets should be an enforced 20mph with friendly synced traffic lights. To say there isn’t a difference in safety between 25mph and 30 mph is criminal. And I am no fan of Transportation Alt. Plus, the DOT really needs to do something about how CI bound traffic hooks those right turns from the main road on to the sides: they need way better traffic control.
April 27, 10:20 am

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