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If you see brunching, say something — Civic leader recruits neighbors in War on Brunch

The Brooklyn Paper

The community leader leading the charge in the War on Brunch is recruiting Greenpoint residents to tattle on restaurants that serve diners outdoors on Sundays before noon.

Community Board 1 public safety chairman Tom Burrows asked neighbors to join his fight and help monitor illegal brunching activity at a 94th Precinct council meeting in Greenpoint on Wednesday.

“If you see restaurants serving brunch on the sidewalk before noon, call 311!” said Burrows — who has come to play the role of General Patton in the escalating conflict. “I didn’t pass the law, but that’s the law.”

Department of Consumer Affairs inspectors — deployed after requests from CB1 members — began cracking down on restaurants that serve food and drink outdoors before noon on Sundays in violation of a rarely enforced city blue law that has prohibited the practice since 1971.

The Sunday ban was put in place to promise peace and quiet out of respect for restaurant neighbors on what some view as a day of rest, city officials said.

But anti-brunchers say several restaurants have abused the policy and seated diners outdoors, making life uncomfortable for elderly neighbors.

“I saw a guy in a wheelchair moving himself into the street at 11 am because of the sidewalk crowds,” said Greenpoint resident Kathleen O’Boyle. “These restaurants are not supposed to open until noon. I called the police three times!”

However North Brooklyn’s men and women of the tablecloth say the law does not prevent congregants from coming to their houses of worship.

“The notion that sidewalk dining in some way restricts, inhibits or in any other way interferes with church attendance is utter hogwash,” said Greenpoint Reformed Church Rev. Ann Kansfield.

“If there were so many church-going people in Greenpoint and Williamsburg that sidewalk seating would interfere with church attendance, all of our churches would be packed full of people,” she said. “This is not the case.”

And Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church pastor Joseph Calise said he has not heard complaints about sidewalk traffic from parishioners and that the Brooklyn Diocese did not ask the city to enforce its brunch laws.

Kansfield has even called on CB1 to ask the city to eliminate the “discriminatory” law, since other faiths observe the Sabbath on other days of the week — when brunch is legally served even earlier.

But Burrows defended his position, noting that rebel restaurants must obey the law as it is written and are a “direct affront to the community.”

“When a certain restaurant first applied for a sidewalk cafe, people from the street … were concerned about the sidewalk being blocked,” Burrows wrote in a Facebook thread. “Unfortunately the actions of one are affecting the others since we cannot have selective prosecution of the law. Consequently enforcement against him is impacting others.”

So far, the city’s offensive has worked.

Several cafes surrendered their tables from their sidewalks last weekend after inspectors handed out a summons to Greenpoint bistro Lokal for allegedly serving outdoor diners at 9:35 am.

But rebel restaurant owners are regrouping, securing allies in their fight against the law including Borough President and Bruncher-in-Chief Markowitz and hundreds of diners who signed a petition criticizing the regulation and the city’s tactics.

Reader Feedback

huh from willybergstein says:
How is it a war on brunch if the crackdown is before noon? Please explain.
May 3, 2012, 8:23 am
Juan from Gowanus says:
Tom Burrows is out of control. The never ending harassment of Greenpoint and Williamsburg restaurants has got to stop. There are so many blue laws on the books that everything is illegal - OF COURSE the rules are selectively enforced. This is just a power trip at the expense of the community.
May 3, 2012, 9:08 am
BunnynSunny from Clinton Hill says:
Since when did brunch ever start at 9:30 on a Sunday morning? C'mon, you're not using your heads, people!
May 3, 2012, 9:12 am
Girl on a Stoop from Greenpoint says:
The interlopers are upset again!!! I feel like Mommy and Daddy sad no again.
So lets go to social media to get our way or even better attack Tom Burrows.
I was at the meeting yesterday, I do not feel I was recruited to help Tom. I will say this why are you so afraid of long time residents getting involved. This is not a frat party people!!! Many of us lived long before you could imagine Brooklyn.
May 3, 2012, 9:42 am
Driggser from GP says:
There is a CB1 Meeting on Tuesday 5/8 at 6:30 PM. It would be good place to voice concern about Burrows' ridiculousness.

http://www.cb1brooklyn.org/cb1_magendas.htm
May 3, 2012, 9:43 am
manhatposeur from manhatland says:
Burrows needs to take ina bloody mary at Enid's.
May 3, 2012, 9:46 am
gptdefender from Greenpoint says:
Thank you "Girl on a Stoop from Greenpoint." I was at the meeting too. Tom Burrows was not recruiting. He was besieged by community members complaining about the rudeness of people posing near the sidewalk cafes, resturants violating their permits by taking up more sidewalk space and having more tables than permitted and having their condiment and busing tables on the sidewalk, which is also not permitted, and blocking pedestrians, not just on their way to church. That's not what this is really about. It's about the arrogance of the the transplants who have no respect for the people who live in this community, as opposed to those who are just passing through (hopefully) and have no respect for the law. "Like Sean from Brooklyn Crossing" said, "If you don't like the law, change it." Tom Burrows did not make this law and he was on vacation when this entire bruhaha took place. The community board is doing its job by responding to complaints, particularly from long time residents who lived and worked here before it was "discovered" by the people who want to change it. Opening at 12 on Sundays until you can politically mobilize and really become a contributing member of this community so that you can change the law shouldn't be too much to ask.
May 3, 2012, 9:56 am
Bay Ridger from Bay Ridge says:
They need Tony Boloney with his pepper spray here! I say SPRAY those brunchers in the face. That'll teach 'em.
May 3, 2012, 9:58 am
DavidS from Northside says:
Is there any way we can kick this Tom Burrows clown out of the neighborhood? How exactly does he represent the "community"?

The Northside is known for its pious church-going folk and lack of enthusiasm for bars/restaurants? LOL!
May 3, 2012, 11:51 am
LorimerResident from Williamsburg says:
Tom Burrows is a "civic leader"? Good one, Brooklyn Paper!

I hope Tom Burrows chokes on his own bloody bile and dies a horrible death. Now THAT would be worth a Sunday morning prayer!
May 3, 2012, 12:06 pm
Sean from Brooklyn Crossing says:
Ann Kansfield is another newbie transplant, who had to go out of her own denomination to be ordained. Can you blame them?

A well-known publicity seeker, she transfers the low attendance rate at her hipster "Reformed" Church to the other churches in the neighborhood, which have been packed for generations.

If you like sidewalk cafes so much, Rev. Gentrifier, why not place one in front of your church? It might draw in some congregants to pack your miniscule attendance.
May 3, 2012, 12:12 pm
Alex from Greenpoiint says:
How can we stop Tom Burrows and the aging fossils from screwing with everyone? Can we someone remove these machine politicans from the "Community" Board?
May 3, 2012, 12:17 pm
kathleen from greenpoint says:
Sean from Brooklyn. This is Kathleen from Brooklyn, a longtime resident and parish member of St. Anthony's for over 70 years.

How dare you!?

Pastor Ann seeks publicity to help HUNDREDS of the under served.
She keeps the doors to that church open to all, she is kind and noble. She has a progressive voice in the community and she was making the point that this was not about church goers. Her letter was humorous and put an end to that silly slant that inspired the ire of many comments here and at other blogs and sites "reporting" on the matter.

"Hipster reformed church" good dog you fool, have you not stepped foot near that church?

I never comment but I am appalled and angered by your ignorance and arrogance.
May 3, 2012, 2:10 pm
KeenEye from Manhatt says:
I see no problem with addressing the legitimate complaints of crowding the sidewalks with tables, and too many loiterers in front of the cafe restaurants, that could be seated inside. There are safety issues and respectable noise issues to be addressed. What I do take issue with is the VERY possible and MORE THAN LIKELY probable polito-religious maneuvering taking place here, in order to secure some sort of "Family Rest Day" for Sunday, being imposed on the citizens of Brooklyn. This "law" has been "on the books" for OVER 30 years....yet was never seriously enforced. Now with all the uproar overseas in Europe about championing Sunday as some sort of "Family Rest Day" that's supposed to be "good for the community and good for the family," they could just as well use Saturday for that.

I think people need to do their homework on this matter so that they can CLEARLY see what the TRUE motivation is behind this "crackdown". We've lost enough civil liberties with the passing and constant expansion of The Patriot Act. Soon, there will be NO "separation of church and state" in this country if we're not alert and careful. It's something to think about.
May 3, 2012, 2:12 pm
Interloper from Kent Ave says:
Girl on a Stoop / gptdefender - If you don't like the people moving in why don't you just leave? Nobody cares about how long you have been here. It's not your neighborhood anymore. It's ours, get used to it. Just because you have "lived long before we could imagine Brooklyn" (whatever that means) doesn't give you any authority in this matter nor does it make your opinions more valid than that of anyone else who lives in the community.

Also, we're not "afraid of you getting involved" and I don't think enjoying a Sunday brunch is anything even remotely close to a "frat party". I could see how you could make a stupid comparison like that though considering that you probably never went to college or if you did it was likely one of the "colleges" that you see advertised on subway billboards. You're both clearly too stupid to understand that 99.9% of all streets have two sidewalks...if one is crowded you can probably walk down the other...figure it out.

Bay Ridger seek professional help.
May 3, 2012, 3:02 pm
Sean from Brooklyn Crossing says:
@ "kathleen from greenpoint"
Really? You've been a member of St. Anthony's for 70 years?
Why don't we believe you?

However, if, in fact, you actually are what you claim to be, then you must be one of the "fossils" that "Pastor Ann's" (LMAO) little hipster friends refers to. We know people by the company they keep. RIP with the dinosaurs, Kathleen.

But you are not a life-long resident, are you? Be honest. Jesus was. Incidentally, I have a spare millstone for you.

Finally: have I spelled "troll" correctly?
May 3, 2012, 3:21 pm
Mike says:
Tom Burrows just might be the worst person in the world.
May 3, 2012, 3:23 pm
Malembi from BK says:
You all suck
May 3, 2012, 3:28 pm
Stephen from Greenpoint says:
I would like to see the sidewalks clear and accessible to all. It can be annoying dodging the crowds or the signs put too far out blocking the sidewalk.
That said it's also annoying dodging the crowds outside the church or the double parked cars of the "locals" who think they own the street.
But that's just it. Annoying. I move on.

Burrows is a whiny kid who can't share the sidewalk and doesn't like the "transplants" so he digs up some BS law.
Funny because it I'm pretty sure most of the people here traveled a lot further to come here than I (or other annoying transplants) did.

So again why? Probably because he could care less about actual public safety.

I would like to see the sidewalks clear and accessible to all. It can be annoying dodging the crowds or the signs put too far out blocking the sidewalk.
That said it's also annoying dodging the crowds outside the church or the double parked cars of the "locals" who think they own the street.
But that's just it. Annoying. I move on.

Burrows is a whiny kid who can't share the sidewalk and doesn't like the "transplants" so he digs up some BS law. Funny because it I'm pretty sure most of the "community members" here traveled a lot further to come here than I (or other annoying transplants) did.

Why doesn't he focus on the legion of homeless drunks, who puke, piss, sh*t, on the sidewalks or parks while leaving litter and broken bottles everywhere? Truly Why?!
Are sidewalk cafes more dangerous than all the broken vodka bottles on the play ground or grass. I can hardly let my daughter play in the park with all the glass and debris. Or focus on "community members" lack of supervision of their teenage offspring who vandalize and destroy the parks and gardens while doing drugs and starting fights?

So again why? Probably because he could care less about actual public safety unless it’s “his community members.”
May 3, 2012, 3:36 pm
gptdefender from Greenpoint says:
Stephen who resides in, but is not "from Greenpoint" -

You and your ilk really don't get it, do you? For all our broken vodka bottles, drunks puking, etc, etc., Greenpoint was still a better place before you came here to "improve" it. And as for your remarks about the teenagers in the park, we know what you really mean. The parks in Greenpoint are the few places where you can still see the last vertiges of the Puerto Rican kids whose families were displaced so that you could turn Greenpoint into your playground. We know how a bunch of Puerto Rican teenagers playing basketball in the park where you bring your kid must piss you off because who wants to pay $350,000 for a condo in Greenpoint, only to have to share a playground with kids of color who live in the few remaining rent stabilized apartments in THEIR neighborhood?
May 3, 2012, 3:49 pm
Sean from Brooklyn Crossing says:
Interloper writes: "- If you don't like the people moving in why don't you just leave?"

Because YOU will move out before we do. We made this the neighborhood you chose to infest. Our children will be our revenge.

We control the CB. We elect the politicians. We control the PTAs.
You can't even control your own destiny, let alone our neighborhood.

"you probably never went to college"
I shouldn't even waste my time replying to your inane generality, but, just to embarrass you further, Mary, I was awarded a 5-year Ph.D. fellowship to Cornell Medical.

What mid-west state college did you graduate from?
May 3, 2012, 3:55 pm
gptdefender from Greenpoint says:
Sorry Interloper - wrong again MSW, LCSW

Also, it's not your neighborhood, never will be. If it was your neighborhood, you'd be able to enjoy your brunch on Sunday mornings and there would be 10 bars on every block and people woudn't hate you so much, but you can't and there's not and they do. This community is opposing you and will continue to oppose you. We'll see who leaves first. BTW - I live in a beautiful rent stabilized, one bedroom, non-railroad apartment with a view of the NYC skyline and I pay less than $1,000 a month rent. You think I'm letting you push me out of Greenpoint? Think again. P.S. Check your punctuation college girl.
May 3, 2012, 4:16 pm
Lucas from Greenpoint says:
@Sean - you don't speak for all native Greenpointers. I've been here all my life, three generations of my family in Greenpoint. I like good restaurants as much as anyone. This war on brunch is ridiculous.

And in case you all didn't notice Tom Burrows and the complainers are interlopers too
May 3, 2012, 4:22 pm
Frank from Furter says:
I have no problem enforcing the rules against the number of tables and things used that block the sidewalks but those are not time specific.
But the time enforced issue is plain dumb. They can serve inside the building at any time. Its just the sidewalk cafe. An anachronism that like selling booze before 12 has gone....
the state discontinued as of July 30, 2006.

But the prohibition against sidewalk sales before noon does remain in a NY law. It has not been enforced before now.
May 3, 2012, 4:27 pm
stephen from greenpoint says:
gptdefender you assume a lot! As in too much. I've been here twenty years, work in construction, live in a walk up and could care less what race or creed you or the teenagers are. Show some respect and you'll get it back but you seem more concerned with assuming things about me than addressing any actual issue, which proves my point. This is just a cultural bullying tactic and not about cafes or community or safety. Just a bunch of hypocrites whose parents weren't even born here complaining about interlopers. America is the land of opportunity, for all of us not just you. Stop blaming the so called transplants and start blaming your fellow greedy "community members" who sell and rent to all the interlopers. Individual transplants will come and go but they will keep coming, and coming, and coming. Get used to it.
May 3, 2012, 4:30 pm
Chris from Greenpoint says:
@Sean

Yo give it a rest Sean, really chill out. This whole "I knew the band before you did" attitude is just stupid.
May 3, 2012, 4:41 pm
I from Greenpoint says:
To all of you. Im only 11 and i am exposed to all of this "commotion". You hipsters have been taking over McCarren Park.Im sick of having to walk around you with your fellow hipsters on a blanket in the grass when im trying to play. Just because we are kids does not mean you dont have to move when we are passing.And when ME and MY friends have to walk and shove through you people at Five Leaves and Lokal, i mean, that's really annoying.If you want us "Idiot Church Goers" to leave, how about you leave first.My family (Fossils to you), were here first and if you want us to leave, we wont.Now go back to sitting in a $5000 apartment with your little Nook or IPad or whatever and stop ruing GreenPoint as we know it.
May 3, 2012, 5:43 pm
Sunny from Williamsburg says:
Sean from Brooklyn Crossing...Your comments about Ann Kansfield are incorrect and way out of line. That church provides an incredible amount of service that is sorely needed in the community.

Stop by on food pantry day and you will see a line of grateful people from all walks of life picking up bags of groceries. Maybe if you'd volunteer in the food pantry, the soups kitchen or to help out in one of the many 12 step meetings the church hosts you wouldn't have such a nasty attitude.

I don't care when Ann Kansfield arrived in this community, I'm just happy that she did, good people like her are always welcome.
May 3, 2012, 6:32 pm
DavidSmith from Greenpoint says:
The good thing is that Tom Burrows and the crazy Community Board NIMBYs are all super old. I'd say average age is over 70.

They'll be passing on over the next few years, and the new generation will take the reins. Maybe then we can concentrate on real issues, not the alleged horrors of eggs benedict before noon.
May 3, 2012, 8:15 pm
DavidSmith from Greenpoint says:
The good thing is that Tom Burrows and the crazy Community Board NIMBYs are all super old. I'd say average age is over 70.

They'll be passing on over the next few years, and the new generation will take the reins. Maybe then we can concentrate on real issues, not the alleged horrors of eggs benedict before noon.
May 3, 2012, 8:15 pm
TomTom from Southside says:
I'm guessing GPTDefender is Tom Burrows or one of the Community Board members.

I've never heard of anyone that crazy and delusional who wasn't involved in the NIMBY "community" activism.

Please GPTDefender, stop wasting your time fighting history. Move to the Poconos with the rest of your ilk, and let us regular folks live in peace, even if we do occasionally enjoy brunch.
May 3, 2012, 8:19 pm
old tim brooklyn from slope says:
well the ohio annex like arse wipes will be flushed to the burbs 0= the hatred they express is not so alarming as expected =
May 3, 2012, 8:25 pm
Ann from Greenpoint says:
I know that the comments on this site can be notoriously nasty, but can we all take a step back and think about what's being said here? Really, someone wants Tom to choke? That's mean-spirited and ugly. We can disagree while being civil. We are neighbors after all, whether we've lived here fifty years or five months. It's a lot more enjoyable to live with people in peace.
May 3, 2012, 8:27 pm
Ann from Greenpoint says:
I know that the comments on this site can be notoriously nasty, but can we all take a step back and think about what's being said here? Really, someone wants Tom to choke? That's mean-spirited and ugly. We can disagree while being civil. We are neighbors after all, whether we've lived here fifty years or five months. It's a lot more enjoyable to live with people in peace.
May 3, 2012, 8:27 pm
Ann from Greenpoint says:
I know that the comments on this site can be notoriously nasty, but can we all take a step back and think about what's being said here? Really, someone wants Tom to choke? That's mean-spirited and ugly. We can disagree while being civil. We are neighbors after all, whether we've lived here fifty years or five months. It's a lot more enjoyable to live with people in peace.
May 3, 2012, 8:27 pm
Ann from Greenpoint says:
I know that the comments on this site can be notoriously nasty, but can we all take a step back and think about what's being said here? Really, someone wants Tom to choke? That's mean-spirited and ugly. We can disagree while being civil. We are neighbors after all, whether we've lived here fifty years or five months. It's a lot more enjoyable to live with people in peace.
May 3, 2012, 8:27 pm
Ann from Greenpoint says:
I know that the comments on this site can be notoriously nasty, but can we all take a step back and think about what's being said here? Really, someone wants Tom to choke? That's mean-spirited and ugly. We can disagree while being civil. We are neighbors after all, whether we've lived here fifty years or five months. It's a lot more enjoyable to live with people in peace.
May 3, 2012, 8:27 pm
DavidSmith from Greenpoint says:
Ann, I don't think the comments are particuarly nasty. Perhaps somewhat harsh, but if Tom is being quoted correctly, then he sounds like a really awful person.

Really anyone like that in a position of authority needs to be removed as soon as legally possible.

He sounds borderline psychotic if he truly believes that eggs benedict before noon threatens the neighborhood and is worthy of bureaucratic interference, while turning a blind eye to all the real problems in the area.

And I think this has gotten people worked up because it's really part of a pattern of recent CB1 madness. Attacking restaurants, nightlife, legal commerce, allowing insiders to break the law with impunity, demonizing newcomers like we're some remote village in Afghanistan.
May 3, 2012, 9 pm
Perris Bueller from Holed up in Community Board 2 says:
Please keep this riff-raff out of Community Board 2.
May 3, 2012, 10:02 pm
old time brooklyn from slope says:
point is 0 enough have complained in the community - if i smoke a cig in a bar that has not has laws enforced yet does that exempt me from the law - no it doses not)- pretty simple - if the establishmensts are seating and setting up help staff /operational aeas contrary to legal ordinance they have established an organic staging area that is contrary to the public good - and that good trumps brunch at 9:30 or whatever
May 3, 2012, 10:26 pm
Sean from Brooklyn Crossing says:
Don't you just love it how I am told to lay off Rev. Gentrifier, who wears her clerical collar to inveigh on and influence matters of local governance, by the same people who would call her congregation "idiot church goers" and the Chair of CB2 "psychotic" and wishes he "choke" and "die", as well as the internet tough-guys who foolishly provoke us with this is "their neighborhood now".

Why am I not surprised? I should have realized these arrogant people think their merde don't smell.

You know what?
Its almost impossible to buy wine or liquor all day Sunday.
However, do I whinge and whine and —— and strike out at my neighbors or the community board?
No, I live with it! Why can't you?
And if I don't want that law to exist any longer, I'll lobby to change it.

But you guys in your solipsism think that the world revolves around you, think that you are above the law, believe that you are special, that you deserve instant gratification, that the law should be ignored selectively to suit your needs, and that life should give you everything you want, just like mommy did.

You actually believe that because you now have finally left mommie's house and have "discovered" Brooklyn, Brooklyn and the law should bend over to accommodate your incessant, selfish, and puerile demands and whims.

Well, life don't work that way, kiddies. Welcome to the Real World. Welcome to Brooklyn.
May 4, 2012, 12:14 am
manhatposeur from manhatland says:
It appears that the so called old timers & Old school locals prefer the time of racial balkynization & thuggery. Its us gentrifiers & hipsters of college educated transplant white & asian backgrounds have made Green Point & north Brooklyn safe for all. So let us have our brunches at 7AM!
May 4, 2012, 7:50 am
Tommy Mac from Downtown Brooklyn says:
Want some eggs with that whine? Why can't you people wait until noon? What's the big deal? If you're that hungry, go to the bodega, or learn to cook an egg.

Bunch of self-important, "look at me" whiners. Go home and drown your sorrows in something from Starbucks.
May 4, 2012, 8:50 am
John S. from Brooklyn says:
"gentrifiers & hipsters of college educated transplant white & asian backgrounds have made Green Point & north Brooklyn safe for all."

- You assume that people born and raised in Gpt are not college educated. WRONG! plus DUMB statement.

- You assume that people with a college degree are BETTER than those without. WRONG! ELITIST!

- You assume that we could not handle ourselves.
WRONG! Speak for yourself, my little ——.

- You assume that "white & asian" are more special than people of color.
WRONG! RACIST!

- You assume you have made it better.
WRONG! You haven't!
It's worse:
Rents up.
Essential services priced out.
Infestation of uniform, conforming, sterile, robotron hipsters and yuppies, lacking diversity.

Wburg:
a joke-of-a-neighborhood, known city-wide as a nest of wannabes and trust-funders, artists who create no art, assistants to the assistant to the assistant director of some start-up, go no-where enterprise, adults who have never grown up, people without an original idea who think they actually have brought something new to a neighborhood 300 years old.
May 4, 2012, 9:14 am
C from Greenpoint says:
I love how people on each side of the fence call each other whiners. Isn't this the problem with humanity in general? "You don't see things MY way, so I will put you down personally!" Ridiculous.

That said, I think the targeting of Lokal was reprehensible. They are definitely NOT the worst offenders. I also do not have a problem with early brunch outdoor seating in general, it reminds me of Europe or cities like Montreal where the culture is very laid back and about enjoying the outdoors and good food and drink. This is not a hipster thing, the tradition is really much older. And this quote from an earlier article is SPOT ON:

“Having brunch on the sidewalks of Brooklyn is, in many ways, an extension of sitting on our stoops — a community experience that allows us to people-watch, get to know our neighbors, and enjoy the weather and fresh air — especially during the summer,” said Markowitz. “It’s hard to imagine New York City without it.”
May 4, 2012, 9:42 am
David Morris from Crown Heights says:
REVELATION 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Ok, this is not the actual Roman SUNday worship (mark of the beast) laws but its the start of Stage-1 to get to this last days prophecy. Many countries in Europe have SUNday trading laws & the world will go this way before moving to the SUNday worship laws....
May 4, 2012, 10:03 am
Interloper from Kent Ave says:
Sean

"Our children will be our revenge." - Wow, what a fantastic reason to have children! Parent of the Year over here...

"We control the CB. We elect the politicians. We control the PTAs." - You may have Tom Burrows in your corner but we have Marty...sorry you lose. Also, I'm pretty sure that everyone elects politicians...not just long time Brooklyn residents. Didn't they teach you that at Cornell?

You can't even control your own destiny, let alone our neighborhood." - This is just a stupid comment. That is all.

gptdefender

Congrats to you and your MSW, LCSW credentials...I'm sure all the hard work that you put at the University of Phoenix online is really helping you make a difference out there!

"Also, it's not your neighborhood, never will be. If it was your neighborhood, you'd be able to enjoy your brunch on Sunday mornings and there would be 10 bars on every block and people wouldn't hate you so much, but you can't and there's not and they do. This community is opposing you and will continue to oppose you." - I'm pretty sure that people don't hate me and that I definitely have more friends than you as you're clearly not nearly as awesome of a person as me. Your boy Tom Burrows is about to get b*tch slapped out of his position by Marty so good luck with your anti-social agenda.

Godwilling...someday there will be a bars as far as the eye can see in Williamsburg / Greenpoint...preferably two very loud noisy ones on both sides of your "beautiful rent stabilized, one bedroom, non-railroad apartment with a view of the NYC skyline that you pay less than $1,000 a month for..." We'll see how long you last then!
May 4, 2012, 10:09 am
Crawford from Northside says:
Adios, Tom Burrows. Time to take your hate back to wherever you're from. Good riddance.

Going forward, the real community will have to get more involved so that no more idiots start running things. It makes no sense to let 5% of the neighborhood control so much of these little neighborhood things.
May 4, 2012, 10:24 am
mike from greenpoint says:
Here we have a Community Board Chairperson Christopher Olechowski who has obviously lost control of his board's committees, and lost control of the board's priorities. If he ever had control to begin with. He hasn't said much about this issue which is unacceptable. He has allowed this divisive situation to escalate and it's gotten beyond ugly. A lot of residents have lost respect for the community board because of Olechowski's leadership failure. Who knows how long it will take to build community trust in this board again?

Olechowski is running for elected office, that scares the heck out of me since the guy can't even get a grip on this one single issue and organize a respectful community dialogue about it. He's not even successfully leading the community board, he thinks he can lead the district? Brooklyn Paper, maybe a story about THAT tomorrow? How about it?
May 4, 2012, 4:26 pm
Sean from Brooklyn Crossing says:
Interloper from Kent Ave : "but we have Marty."

If you feel that buffoon is your salvation, I truly pity you. LMAO
May 4, 2012, 5:49 pm
Sean from Brooklyn Crossing says:
Interloper from Kent Ave : "I'm sure all the hard work that you put at the University of Phoenix online"

Foolishly and childishly, you continue to blindly stab out at people's educational credentials and work experience, while still refusing to answer my simple question:

What mid-western state college did you attend that you can be so cocky?
May 4, 2012, 6:12 pm
Scott from Park Slope says:
It seems like the disagreement is not about brunch at all, but rather demographic change.

I have no dog in this fight, but as demographic changes go people having brunch is not the worst thing in the world. It could be a crack epidemic or ultra-violent gangs.
May 5, 2012, 12:02 am
tinashe from greenpoint says:
Greetings to all of you, I think the issue here is not what you all think...but rather this is sunday law enforcement predicted by the bible in the last days. The you God Jesus is at the door ready to come and establish His kingdom forever.
May 5, 2012, 11:48 am
tinashe from greenpoint says:
Greetings to all of you, I think the issue here is not what you all think...but rather this is sunday law enforcement predicted by the bible in the last days. The you God Jesus is at the door ready to come and establish His kingdom forever.
May 5, 2012, 11:48 am
tinashe from greenpoint says:
Greetings to all of you, I think the issue here is not what you all think...but rather this is sunday law enforcement predicted by the bible in the last days. The you God Jesus is at the door ready to come and establish His kingdom forever.
May 5, 2012, 11:48 am
tinashe from greenpoint says:
Greetings to all of you, I think the issue here is not what you all think...but rather this is sunday law enforcement predicted by the bible in the last days. The you God Jesus is at the door ready to come and establish His kingdom forever.
May 5, 2012, 11:48 am
tinashe from greenpoint says:
Greetings to all of you, I think the issue here is not what you all think...but rather this is sunday law enforcement predicted by the bible in the last days. The you God Jesus is at the door ready to come and establish His kingdom forever.
May 5, 2012, 11:48 am
tinashe from greenpoint says:
Greetings to all of you, I think the issue here is not what you all think...but rather this is sunday law enforcement predicted by the bible in the last days. The you God Jesus is at the door ready to come and establish His kingdom forever.
May 5, 2012, 11:49 am
tinashe from greenpoint says:
Greetings to all of you, I think the issue here is not what you all think...but rather this is sunday law enforcement predicted by the bible in the last days. The you God Jesus is at the door ready to come and establish His kingdom forever.
May 5, 2012, 11:49 am
tinashe from greenpoint says:
Greetings to all of you, I think the issue here is not what you all think...but rather this is sunday law enforcement predicted by the bible in the last days. The you God Jesus is at the door ready to come and establish His kingdom forever.
May 5, 2012, 11:49 am
tinashe from greenpoint says:
Greetings to all of you, I think the issue here is not what you all think...but rather this is sunday law enforcement predicted by the bible in the last days. The you God Jesus is at the door ready to come and establish His kingdom forever.
May 5, 2012, 11:49 am
tinashe from greenpoint says:
Greetings to all of you, I think the issue here is not what you all think...but rather this is sunday law enforcement predicted by the bible in the last days. The you God Jesus is at the door ready to come and establish His kingdom forever.
May 5, 2012, 11:49 am
tinashe from greenpoint says:
Greetings to all of you, I think the issue here is not what you all think...but rather this is sunday law enforcement predicted by the bible in the last days. The you God Jesus is at the door ready to come and establish His kingdom forever.
May 5, 2012, 11:49 am
Taco from Borough Park says:
@Interloper - I have tolerated a lot from you people. You invade our neighborhoods and cheapen them with your lack of culture. You increase the cost of living because you idiots are willing to use your parents' money to pay $1800 for a studio apartment. You "discover" restaurants and all you sheep flock to them, making it impossible for me to enjoy a tamale without long waits and loud, pretentious chatter.

What I will not tolerate, however, is the racism you bring with you from Indiana or Alabama or Wisconsin or whatever flyover state you crawled out of. By transplanting your pasty midwestern self here you have set us all back decades. Now my children will have to grow up in an environment where they are judged as "uneducated" simply because of the way they look. Do you understand why there is such utter disdain towards you and your kind?

YOU go back to whatever hole you came from, you dumb punk ass ——.
May 6, 2012, 2:21 pm
Taco from Borough Park says:
@Interloper - I have tolerated a lot from you people. You invade our neighborhoods and cheapen them with your lack of culture. You increase the cost of living because you idiots are willing to use your parents' money to pay $1800 for a studio apartment. You "discover" restaurants and all you sheep flock to them, making it impossible for me to enjoy a tamale without long waits and loud, pretentious chatter.

What I will not tolerate, however, is the racism you bring with you from Indiana or Alabama or Wisconsin or whatever flyover state you crawled out of. By transplanting your pasty midwestern self here you have set us all back decades. Now my children will have to grow up in an environment where they are judged as "uneducated" simply because of the way they look. Do you understand why there is such utter disdain towards you and your kind?

YOU go back to whatever hole you came from, you dumb punk ass ——.
May 6, 2012, 2:21 pm
Interloper from Kent Ave says:
It's really interesting the assumptions that morons like Sean and Taco make and how their long standing residence here gives them carte blanche for determining what's best for all of us... Your viewpoints are entirely anti-social and archaic and are not representative of the current demographic of the community. That is the core issue in this discussion. The brunch issue is certainly a derivative of that. I don't really care about you or your viewpoints though. Like I said already it's our neighborhood now. You lose.

To your point regarding he concept of "my parent's money"...that's actually non-existent in my life. I have a job take care of myself and and don't require their financial assistance. I will admit that the useless non-working hipster population can be a divisive issue within our community. Although I find almost everything about people like you disagreeable I think that we actually have some common ground here...who would have thought such a concept as this to be possible!?

Not that it matters, but I'm a born and bred New Yorker City original myself (not a transplant from a mid-western flyover state as you would conveniently assume). I moved to Williamsburg after I graduated from a well known top liberal arts college in upstate NY. Even though I went to a good school. I don't like to hang my hat on where I went as that is not the most interesting thing about me...sorry you can't say the same for yourself Sean. Also, just an FYI... but Cornell is barely an Ivy league school as is and I know plenty of dumbasses who went there.

Also Taco, it's interesting that you would assume that somebody is racist just based on their place of origin or the color of their skin. In this case, by pasty your making the assumption that most of the new people in the community, many of which are coincidentally white, are going to judge your children as "uneducated" just because they look different. Well I can't speak for every white person who moved here in the past few years...but I can certainly say that that is not the case with me nor the people that I associate with as I have great friends from all sorts of racial backgrounds. If you raise your children and instill your own misconceived biases like these with them then you can only expect that they'll grow up to be just as miserable of a person as you. Just an FYI...

I'm not going anywhere. Leisure activity like Sunday brunch is one of the main reasons why I moved here and I'll continue to enjoy that as its clear that viewpoints of people like you and Tom Burrows are on their way out in terms of acceptance. You can't stop the change so why don't you figure out a new place to go and complain.
May 7, 2012, 11:20 am
Selina from Greenpoint says:
Tom Burrows and most of CB1 are idiots. Anyone who has ever dealt with them knows this. I have spoken with many people on other Community Boards who cannot believe hideous treatment that they give local businesses. What a joke. This is New York 2012 people. Walk down the quieter street if you need to get to church and waste your sunday listening to a load of ——. let us spend our Sundays with our family and friends, eating, drinking, talking and having a life.
May 7, 2012, 6:42 pm
Selina from Greenpoint says:
Tom Burrows and most of CB1 are idiots. Anyone who has ever dealt with them knows this. I have spoken with many people on other Community Boards who cannot believe hideous treatment that they give local businesses. What a joke. This is New York 2012 people. Walk down the quieter street if you need to get to church and waste your sunday listening to a load of ——. let us spend our Sundays with our family and friends, eating, drinking, talking and having a life.
May 7, 2012, 6:42 pm
Selina from Greenpoint says:
Tom Burrows and most of CB1 are idiots. Anyone who has ever dealt with them knows this. I have spoken with many people on other Community Boards who cannot believe hideous treatment that they give local businesses. What a joke. This is New York 2012 people. Walk down the quieter street if you need to get to church and waste your sunday listening to a load of ——. let us spend our Sundays with our family and friends, eating, drinking, talking and having a life.
May 7, 2012, 6:42 pm
Keep Greenpoint Green from Greenpoint says:
If we are going to "clean up the sidewalks" can we start with cleaning up the dog poo? That is a law that is clearly not enforced and every negligent dog owner that leaves their dog's poop on the ground could be fined $250, but I've never seen it happen. I can't wear shoes in my house because my baby eats everything off the floor. This is a real health hazard. I'd love to do something that makes Greenpoint safer and more beautiful. Really, what's with all the dog poop? I've lived in a bunch of different NYC neighborhoods, and I've never seen so much poo in all my life. HELP!
May 7, 2012, 6:55 pm
Keep Greenpoint Green from Greenpoint says:
If we are going to "clean up the sidewalks" can we start with cleaning up the dog poo? That is a law that is clearly not enforced and every negligent dog owner that leaves their dog's poop on the ground could be fined $250, but I've never seen it happen. I can't wear shoes in my house because my baby eats everything off the floor. This is a real health hazard. I'd love to do something that makes Greenpoint safer and more beautiful. Really, what's with all the dog poop? I've lived in a bunch of different NYC neighborhoods, and I've never seen so much poo in all my life. HELP!
May 7, 2012, 6:55 pm
BaconEgg&Awesome from Williamsburg says:
Clearly anyone who is an "original" is in a rent controlled apartment or bought their place when everything was 50,000 so I really don't get how people who want to spend money on brunch, or dry-cleaning, or at the market, or at any other locally owned business are so offensive to you! Your cheap ass certainly isn't putting money into improving the neighborhood or supporting its businesses. And as far as your "children will be your revenge"... I hope they will enjoy the increased funding going to their schools from all the property taxes on those million dollar condos you so loathe. In nature, like society, when a species evolves it outgrows so called vestigial structures. The neighborhood is evolving and your complaints are just a remnant of the crack infested hell hole this place was in "the good old days" before the dreaded interlopers brought down the wrath of brunch upon you. Pray in church this Sunday for the wisdom to evolve.
May 7, 2012, 11:03 pm
Kathleen from Greenpoint says:
Yes, Sean from Greenpoint. I was born here in 1936 and my mother was born here in 1905. St. Al's and St. Anthony's have been our parish, and yes, St. Anthony-St. Alphonus I know.

Just because I have wisdom, and yes, maybe a fossil, if you like, doesn't inspire the vitriol you seem to have towards whatever change comes to pass in Greenpoint.

Differ in opinion, but let us all be civil.

You may just try bending some before you break. Poor soul. But seems that advise is too late for you.
May 8, 2012, 12:34 pm
AWHN says:
Sunday Laws agitation is also happening elsehwere... old laws being agitated, and new ones coming to the foreground... this nation is to have separation of Church and State... and the Sunday Blue Laws are only being agitated for one reason...

see... www.sabbathtruth.com

for more see Pearl Trees of Life:

www.pearltrees.com/awhn

freely you have received, freely give...
May 24, 2012, 2:11 pm

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